1 in 4 Americans doesn't know earth orbits sun.

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    Preppers are also. Yet your beloved government tells them to prep. Yet your beloved government is telling you to prep and your beloved government is telling it's employes to prep. But if you do you might be a terrorist. Lol no wonder the schools are failing under governmental retarded thinking such as this.
     
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    The problem with home schooling as I see it is who gets to set the standards of attainment for an effective curriculum. What might be an acceptable level of education as far as a parent is concerned may very well not even come close to what the child needs if he is to progress to higher education.
     
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    Could I correct your schooling here? 'Then the progressive school system is broken...'
     
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    I like the idea of home schooling. We have had nearly or maybe over a century of GOVERNMENT schooling and that is why Johnny even can’t read much less know the earth orbits the sun. So I support home schooling, and despise most of governments overseeing any aspect of my private life including how I educate my children (if I had any legal ones). Really my friends and foes, the GOVERNMENT should be fired and severly limited in its power. The problem is that we have given our gonads to uncle sam. Now they are forever ‘tenured’ not only in our school system but are creeping in every aspect of our private lives(no such thing). But even government is not the real villain, at least not yet. The real villain is in the mirror. It’s us! Just as Jesus said GREED is the root of all evil. The greed and the laziness of 99% of the American public is destroying the nation our forefathers built. So, we must get our own personal house in order and that requires that EVERYONE VOTE. I really don’t have the right to critique the public because I am absconding from the grid as I type, having given up on Uncle Sam and my fellow man. I may change my mind in the future, but for now and at my age I plan of completely divesting myself from the drug of dependence on government as much as possible.

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    Heliocentric system ? just a theory.


    praise Columbus .
     
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    Since demographic information isn't available, we can't tell anything about the problem.

    So a solution is to do a full blown study and find out the source of the problem.
     
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    They have to meet the standards set up by the states. Same as the public schools. However the generally exceed these standards. Unlike public.
     
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    The kids who do standardized tests in schools are forced to do them. Homeschooled kids who do standardized tests do them voluntarily. Homeschooled test results will always be better until ALL homeschooled kids have to take them.
     
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    No, home schooling is terrible but you are right, more money isn't the answer. I think more exam pressure in the US will help, make the tests harder and harder to revise for. This will make the students go home, get a textbook and/or go on the internet and learn as much as they can. Quality of teachers also needs to change and I suggest forcing students to take certain subjects. Home schooling should be banned, many parents do not have the knowledge themselves and will also do other things instead of teach, squeeze the kids in when they can.
     
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    No one thing I would do with kids that aren't meant for college is to have better trade school options and start them sooner. Not every kids is meant for higher education and we treat them as such. There is nothing wrong with being a plumber and not knowing advance trigonometry. There is nothing wrong with being a weirder and not knowing string theory. We need more people willing to work with their hands. Yet not be drop outs. Not have to enter trades with little to no experience.
     
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    If you want the child to get the best education send them to a private school but certainly do not homeschool them.
     
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    That was my point, you have people here praising home schooling and private schooling, but fail to make the connection that in home schooling, the parent is engaged in the child learning. If the same engagement is present in public schools you would see a drastic improvement.

    Private schools are selective in their choosing of students, and usually they select students that already have parents engaged in their education because it isn't free.
     
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    I can agree on home schooling, but blaming creationism is wrong. Would it make any difference what your faith or non faith is to know which orbits which? Even Catholic schools have to teach the same subjects and there is nothing in religion that touches on the orbit of the earth.
     
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    Standards of teacher training need to be of a sufficiently high standard that the child benefits. America isn't the only country suffering; in England we have similar problems with children leaving school with woefully inadequate literacy and numeracy skills. This is especially true of socially deprived areas where the prevailing cultural attitude seems to be that school is something to be got through as quickly as possible, and education is not viewed as a positive attribute.
    In this situation parents need as much education as their children.
     
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    Thanks for that, I wasn't aware of it.
     
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    Sadly, that's not true. Its implication is that terrorist, that are right wing, tend to be found in those kinds of environments(home schooling)..............not that all home schooling people are terrorists.

    In other words, being a home schooler will not get you labelled a terrorist, but being a terrorist who home schools your children will certainly be labelled a terrorist.
     
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    Again, you are missing the implication...........as all conservatives do. We just can't figure out if you guys do it on purpose or because you don't know any better and not one conservative is willing to help us answer that question. Because if you proved you were doing it on purpose, then you would be ideological. And if you proved it was because you don't know any better, this allows us to question your intelligence. So no wonder not one conservative is willing to expose themselves. No wonder! LMAO!

    You will not be labelled a terrorist solely on the fact that you were home schooled, but if your parents are terrorists and home school their children, then its likely the children will end up being terrorists too. This may get you labelled a terrorist, not the fact that you were home schooled! LOL
     
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    Mine do go to a private small school. Great little school. Every teacher know my boys names. Every teacher knows my family including grandparents. Who are allowed to have lunch with them once a month.
    The oldest kids are responsible for the care of the younger. A buddy system is in place where they help the younger kids with homework, schoolwork and just things in general.
    Every kid there is responsible for the younger ones. Even just pep talks.
    I remember the riots in my public schools. I remember knives used in fights. I remember girls being sexaul harassed while teacher turn a blinds eye to it. Scare themselves. One teacher was beaten by her car for trying to send a student to the office. How does the progressive want kids to learn when the schools are set up to where kids fear for their lives? How is this a learning environment? Kids that cause the trouble can't be removed from class rooms. Or the teachers fear for their lives if they even try. Metal detectors at doorways. Police having to be on hand. Do you really that makes the kids feel safe? Are does that remind them of just want kind if place schools have become?
     
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    This sentiment doesn't hold water based upon the math alone; in fact it may be the OPPOSITE which is true. We're talking 1 OUT OF 4 which doesn't know the Earth orbits the Sun. Do you think that more focusing on the 'slow learners' fixes that? Now fully a fourth of our kids are 'slow learners'?

    Perhaps the problem is that teachers have been doing nothing but focusing on the slow learners - and in the process screwing the MAJORITY out of a solid education.
     
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    they are mostly in the south.
     

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