Jamaicans want Britian to pay reparations...

yes a very small one only for the benefit of europeans.

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Its not something ive read about, would you mind giving me a clue...

 

I said largely integrated.

And no you're not advising but asking a legitimate question.

 

whats about the local "kings"? do you agree that anti-colonialism has committed many crimes as well?

 

http://www.unrv.com/culture/roman-slavery.php

I can't find anything that gives a precise measure or the ethnic distribution but doubtless that slaves were imported from Britain as a result of war.

 

Damn straight! Personally I think that the Italian government owes the descents (well just me, honestly) BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars because the chances are good that at some point in time one of my ancestors might have been held as a slave. Works for me! Also anyone who's a British descendant of Anglo Saxon heritage should sue Norway because perhaps one of his or her ancestors were enslaved by Vikings. Oh and . . . nope . . . on second thought it's just a bogus greed-based bullshid effort to use emotional blackmail on 'WE FEEL GUILTY ABOUT EVERYTHING!' British IDIOT leftwingers to get money, money, money. Still . . . sweet!

 

Which ones?

 

im not picking here but it doesnt mention anything about slaves from briton. its just somebody made a silly comment, trying to compare the troubles of the ppl in the caribbean with the troubles of britons. these types of comparisons serve nothing.

 

I know. It's unlikely that the Romans were that concerned about where they came from.
Even to get an estimate of the number is hard enough.

And you did say to give you a clue.

 

Contemporary Rome should make reparations to their Gaul counterparts. (absurdity)

Reparations seem to "take on a life of their own" only when it involves the "en vogue" sentiment of white oppression; notwithstanding, of course, the current servitude of the sub-Saharan continent.

 

chieftains , etc. i m not an expert on R. form of governance .

 

not according to Raymond Kea's history of the Gold Coast; most of the African slave trade was internal, local rulers there bought slaves to work their gold mines, as well as reselling them. There was already a centuries old Arab slave trade with the natives before Europeans set up their first trading posts in the region. Slaves who weren't purchased or too sick to work were simply killed by the locals. After a slave revolt in the ME around the 12th century or so, the Arabs practiced full frontal castration on male slaves, of which 90% of those castrated died. This is why you see few blacks in the ME countries; they weren't allowed to be bred, and were killed when no longer useful. It was Europeans who originated anti-slavery movements, and Arabs and Africans only accepted the ending of that trade grudgingly.

 

I don't know about all periods of the Roman Empire, but female slaves from the northern tribes were highly prized commodities in Rome at one point, certainly in the times of Julius Caesar and for a time afterwards, into the early years of the first Emperors. They wouldn't necessarily have to have been war captives; there was an active slave trade in Britain and the other northern European regions.

 

Truth that doesn't fit the politically correct narrative of today.

 

Kea is black himself, and researches African economic history extensively; it's his specialty, so they need to take it up with him. I doubt he would censor himself just because Al Sharpton comes around sniveling.

 

What Britian done was bad but it is too far gone, it's just history. Nobody alive today is effected so who gets the money? My guess would be their Government... If we're going to pay Jamaica, I want Italy to pay us!

 

Some Kenyan victims won $33 million for alleged physical abuse by the British during the Mau Mau rebellion but the Atlantic slave trade was abolished in 1831. Reparations are normally paid for direct victims rather than for those who claim to be their descendants and President Reagan decided to financially compensate for the Roosevelt administration's mistake to intern Japanese Americans, which was a rare case in which all conditions were met. South Korea is also demanding reparations for 55 self-declared former comfort women but there are conflicting claims about what happened at the time. A wartime document unearthed in 2007 by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) showed that they were recruited by civilian contractors who offered them a few hundred yen to work in the front lines, which enabled them to pay off family debts, and a typical comfort woman earned ten times more than a factory worker.

 

Uhhh! Excuse me, but slavery was alive and well in the Islamic Ottoman world. There was rabid slavery going on, and that included white slaves captured from as far away as Briton by the Barbary pirates. It was so bad, that the coastal towns of Italy were emptied out so as not to be captured. As an example, the Circassians who were kicked out of Russia and escaped to Turkey ended up on the slave blocks of Istanbul, and that was in the latter part of the 19th century, so it wasn't just a black thing. My great great grandaunt for instance, survived a massacre and became a slave in someone's harem for forty years.

The only thing the Europeans did was open a market for black slaves in the Americas. Had that market not existed, more than likely those blacks would have ended up in the household of some poor Turk or Arab who couldn't afford a white slave, or as a eunich in a harem. Considering what they suffered, it was a fate worse than death. Slavery was not abolished until Attaturk and the break up of the Ottoman Empire in the 1920's. It still exists in places like Saudi Arabia, so don't let anyone fool you. I read a story recently by a black who was captured and he and another were the only ones out of the ten who were chosen for castration and who managed to survive the ordeal.

 

i think you ´d read more academical literature(not from black nationalists) . this is old myth , this schema `d never bring any profit and physically impossible .

 

Are the baskets ever the same size? In the U.S. the majority of blacks are poor, and yet some of the richest people are blacks, like Oprah Wimfrey and Bill Cosby not to mention some athletes and rock stars. This is not to say that the English in places like Rhodesia shouldn't have tried to better their situation, but there are ways of doing it without forcing a situation on them for political expediency in which all the white farmers with the knowledge to till the land were forced to leave, and with the blacks ending up starving in the hands of corrupt leaders.

 

Are they really Israelites? I was just thinking of what some girl told me fifty years ago about Jamaica and voodoo. Oh well, I guess it's not as bad as Haiti.

 

good point, you know we have a low level discussion here , i asked about R form of governance and got NO answer , how we can discuses size of baskets if we know nothing about them?

 

The main assets of the Circassians in Russia were their beautiful women. They were the ones who filled up the Sultan's harems, so when they lost the war with Russia and left, many ended up on the Istanbul slave blocks. There were so many and prices dropped down so much, that the Turkish men began ridding themselves of their black slaves. What is pathetic is that the babies born of black women in the Ottoman world were killed. You will never see a mulatto in Turkey.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro_Turks

 

Everybody wants to be a victim. As far as I'm concerned these people are cry babies, their feet stink, and they don't love Jesus

 

Ridiculous!

Ok, if the Jamaican government pays me money for the time I was mugged by the Rastas at my local bus-stop, then maybe I'll listen.

Total joke.