Jamaicans want Britian to pay reparations...

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  1. Strasser

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    You just don't like the facts, and stuff your fingers in your ears and pretend it doesn't exist.


    Claiming the 100's of thousands of slaves in the Mansa Musa's empire didn't exist is also fantasy. He even bought more on his trip to Mecca and back. Slaves were a big commodity in the Mali empire's markets.
     
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    Which wasn't done willingly in the USA.
    And you're honestly saying that in the transatlantic slave trade that this is some sort of bizarre kindness?
     
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    no, most of the war lords in Africa LOVED the slave trade, as the Arabs who were involved as well.
    but who gives a damn what they wanted or loved ?
     
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    So sue them for reparations. Or they can demand to be returned to their homelands. Practically no takers on that last will materialize, so obviously blacks indeed think they're better off here than there.
     
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    Actually it was in many states. The importation of slaves into the United States was banned in 1807 as well, some 18 years after we formed a government. When did the first African and Arab country ban slavery? And how many after that did so of their volition?

    Portugal banned it in 1761, Iceland in 1117, etc.

    Africa and Asia have an active slave trade today.

    Better a slave in the U.S. than a slave or dead in Africa. Not a 'kindness' but an acknowledgement that blacks never treat each other with much empathy and kindness either, then or now.
     
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    And yet slaves were still being imported illegally and it was only during the civil war that the US actually abolished it unwillingly.
    And it took the Webster-Ashburton treaty to force a naval commitment from the US only to send no more than a small squadron at any one time.
    Lincoln was also known for his reluctance to free the slaves.

    As for the squadron itself. It was ineffective whereas the Royal navy West Africa squadron had freed some half a million slaves and captured over 1500 vessels

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Slave_Trade_Patrol
    Sorry, the US wasn't that interested.
    Not really. At least your suffering was over.

    Hmm that's a bit of a blanket statement. Yes it's fair to say that, certainly amongst west Africans that it was the wartime fashion to kill or sell their captives.
     
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    You dont get it do you. Europeans created the 'slave market' as you call it by invading west afrika and forcibly taking afrikan captives back to europe. There was No trade of anything, just theft of civilians by europeans. The so-called trade came roughly 50 years after europe had instigated a war with west afrika. The 'trade' was for guns, so afrikans could stop europeans destroying cities and taking captives.
     
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    what an absolute load of racist eurocentric rubbish.

    Queen Nzinga was one of many people who led armed resistance to european slavery.

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    Prisoners of war, not slaves.
     
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    i want germans pay reparations for the Sack of Rome in 1527
     
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    The war lords were Arabs.
     
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    Yes, they were practically surrounded by europeans and Arabs, both at home and in america, there was no where to go.
     
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    So name these African countries that abolished slavery. Most European countries did so long before any African country bothered. Mauritania is still trying to abolish it; more like pretending to abolish it, really. Most African countries that abolished it did so as European colonies, ironically.

    but not in Africa itself, obviously.



    First you claim the Portuguese did so by firing cannons, i.e. by war, now you're trying to claim your 'prisoners of war' are somehow 'different'; a distinction without a difference.
     
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    germans have got no money left, the jewish ppl got all they had to offer.

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    Most of them did when the europeans had been defeated. It was the europeans who set up the slave institutions.
     
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    Surrounded by their fellow black warlords and slavers.
     
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    What do you mean defeated? Can you be more specific please?
     
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    The earliest African country I can find that abolished it did so as a French colony, 1905 or so. I will keep looking, but I seriously doubt I'll find one earlier that did so voluntarily.

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    No, they did so cosmetically because of the League of Nations resolutions, in 1926.
     
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    And I want Ireland to give back a county or two, to be decided on when they send a plane to pick me up and fly me over there.

    Oh, and also Normandy. France owes me Normandy.
     
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    Despite being inflicted with the malignant virus of "guilt" it's improbable the European people will be defeated.

    A revival is imminent .
     
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    The people captured by portugues were not prisoners of war as portugal had not declared war with anyone in afrika at the time. The europeans wanted to engage Afrikans in war purely for the purpose of supplying america with 18 million free workers for 400 years. To the detriment of Afrika.
    Afrikans engaged in war in feudal Afrika as a means to empower the people of the continent as a whole. The empire of west Afrika gradually got bigger and bigger over the course of time due to feudalism culminating in the splendor of Timbuktu, Mali Empire.
    This was a threat to medieval europe who had only just come out of the dark ages. So they invaded Afrika.
     
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    Independence from europe.
     
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    The reason 'afrikans' turned on eachother was because of the threat of slavery to the europeans.

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    Thats probably because most afrikan countries were run by europeans until independence in the 50's.
     
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    re-reconquista?
     
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    Britain gave independence voluntarily unlike France and Portugal. We weren't defeated.
     
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    Just a manifestation of Nautre's law.
     
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