CPAC – An Absurdist Theater Where Reality Goes to Die

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yea, she's a babe....

    As for your being able to keep your plan, congrats, you're the lucky one. May the plan be with you... :)
     
  2. dujac

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    try these facts on:

    billionare corporate interests are telling you that government is bad

    all the while they're fighting to become part of that government

    amass huge fortunes and reduce the 99%'s pay rates

    [video=youtube;9oP9ZqcDv5Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oP9ZqcDv5Y[/video]


    i've seen other parrots that are much more attractive
     
  3. Cori

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    I lean towards independent than fully Conservative, I am fully aware of what the billionaires are doing as well. I am almost fully against Liberalism, although there are some things that I agree with them, such as this Tea Party bullshiz.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course you have, they're all on the right half of the pic. Strange that you find them attractive but then again, the mind of a Liberal is a strange one...
     
  5. dujac

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    conservatives and the gop are playing the same game, they're controlled by the same interests

    i assume you're not a billionaire, why vote against your own interests?

    [video=youtube;5Hmhdv_OSvA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hmhdv_OSvA[/video]


    what a joke, the parrots are on the left side of that image
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    typical liberal cesspool tactic cant debate any facts evidence and or points in any of the CPAC speakers speeches so the try to demonize marginalize and dismiss the speakers
     
  7. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And all the America's idiots are on the right of that image... beautiful, too :)
     
  8. ProgressivePatriot

    ProgressivePatriot Well-Known Member

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    That is not sexism and racism. It has nothing to do with gender or skin color. It about not wanting the mentally ill reactionaries running the country
     
  9. dujac

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    so you think politics is a beauty contest? it's not
     
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    Too late. Progressives are already in charge.
     
  11. Cori

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    It depends who is running and what they are running for. I'll never vote a democrat for president again, I know that much. But it really all depends.
     
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    Liberal voters are well informed, yes. Through the design of misdirection media their minds are filled with emotion invoking propaganda they deem to be of the highest level of importance while simultaneously being conditioned to dismiss real issues as "phony scandals".

    I'm so very impressed with your encyclopedic knowledge of a universe ending traffic jam in Jersey, or the KKK's country wide hunt of Saint Trayvon the Holy lead by White George Zimmerman who is a White guy that is White, or how the planet will catch on fire unless America (only) stops using oil, or how racism is not the creation of a minority permanent underclass for use of vote exploitation but rather it is speaking out against said creation that is in fact racism, or how defending the rights of citizens is so very important unless its their right to own a gun or practice a Christian religion or assemble a non-liberal organization, or... or... or... ad infinitum.

    Really, I'm impressed. :clapping:
     
  13. dujac

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    independents aren't getting any traction
     
  14. Cori

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    Independents never gained traction. Not one independent has ever become president of the United States and most likely never will. More money is being pumped into the Republican & Democrat scene for obvious reasons.
     
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    democrats are beholden to working classes

    the gop is the party of the rich
     
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    Even Rupert's Fox propaganda ministry for the Angry White Guys recognizes that the best educated states are far, far more likely to cast their electoral votes for the Democratic ticket in national elections and, conversely, the worst-educated states for Repubs. That's indisputable.

    The progressive states, as one would expect, have generally achieved greater prosperity and a better quality of life. Fortunately, their charitable disposition, in concert with Pope Francis's gospel message, means they support the poorer, less-educated states via federal subsidies. Thus, the less successful states obviously have a strong vested interests in maintaining the status quo, regardless of their chronic kvetching. (Some malcontents who rage against the far more efficient and inclusive health care systems of all first-world nations suddenly clam up when their $250 billion annual taxpayer subsidy for employer-administered plans is mentioned - Even fanatical ideologues will make exceptions when they're getting a free ride.)

    Not surprisingly, the most advanced nations on earth are all regulated free-market democracies with a strong commitment to the social welfare of their citizens, the paradigm for pragmatists. The dogmatists who rage against that proven model never seem to have any extant alternative to offer.

    Ideologues may conjure up alternative fantasies, but their obvious flaw is that they are not real.


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    Charity comes from the heart, not from the end of a gun, metaphorically speaking.
     
  18. Cori

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    They really don't have much of a difference in the end. They all say what you want to hear and then screw you in the spot that hurts the most.

    They all have the love for money.
     
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    that's mostly the gop and it doesn't have to be that way
     
  20. Cori

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    I wouldn't say just the gop. The gop has their own problems, yes. But Obama is a perfect example of "say what you want to hear" type of person.

    For example (Obamacare):

    Lie #1: “Affordable” Care. Even the president’s ideological allies — like Michael Moore — acknowledge that the Affordable Care Act is far from inexpensive for most Americans and that it “risks being a cruel joke.”
    Lie #2: It will prevent people from going into debt.
    Lie #3: ObamaCare will lower costs overall.
    Lie #4: More Americans will be insured.

    http://nypost.com/2014/01/05/4-biggest-lies-about-obamacare/

    Then there are these other 252 problems...
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/tim-brown/252-examples-of-obamas-lying-lawbreaking-corruption/
     
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    Yes, advanced societies evidence a humanitarian disposition in their self-governance. They, demonstrably, do well whilst doing good.

    It's a win/win model for which ideological zealots have no alternative paradigm to offer.
     
  22. dujac

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    the aca is an opportunity to control healthcare costs

    why do people in oklahoma pay less than other states?

    "The average charges for joint replacement range from about $5,300 at an Ada, Okla., hospital to $223,000 in Monterey Park, Calif."

    "It's not just national or even regional geography. Hospitals within the same city also vary wildly. In Jackson, Miss., average inpatient charges for services that may be provided to treat heart failure range from $9,000 to $51,000, the Department of Health and Human Services said."

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/hospital-charges-vary-greatly-care-report-article-1.1338476#ixzz2vTxUV0UD

    and this video does a great job addressing your list

    [video=youtube;qSjGouBmo0M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSjGouBmo0M[/video]
     
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    I love you guys. Sure Obamacare is not perfect. How can it be? The insurance companies are still in charge, although it's not as bad as it was before. Nevertheless, it's still profits before people to the extent that they can get away with it. We need a single payer system, Medicare for all. Conservatives ALLWAYS talk about costs and other possible downsides but NEVER about the benefits. The biggest joke is the "repeal and replace" mantra......they quickly forgot the replace part. They never offered an alternative nor have they been willing to work with the Dems to fix the problems. You might want to consider this:

    "A new study by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that insurance premiums under Obamacare will be even lower than expected. The study looked at data on premiums in the states where the information is available and determined that While premiums will vary significantly across the country, they are generally lower than expected. For example, we estimate that the latest projections from the Congressional Budget Office imply that the premium for a 40-year-old in the second lowest cost silver plan would average $320 per month nationally. Fifteen of the eighteen rating areas we examined have premiums below this level, suggesting that the cost of coverage for consumers and the federal budgetary cost for tax credits will be lower than anticipated.

    Also: When California announced its rates, the Democrat-led state celebrated how affordable prices came in. When Ohio released data, it derided how expensive health insurance would be under the federal reforms.In actuality though, Ohioans and Californians will see pretty similar premiums on the new marketplaces. There’s a $16 difference between the two states.

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/0...amacare-premiums-will-be-lower-than-expected/

    And this: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/sep/24/top-16-myths-about-health-care-law/

    I wish that you people would stop lying. It's irresponsible and unpatriotic. People die when then don't have health insurance. Get over it
     
  24. Cori

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    I am only saying what I believe in. Same goes for you. Thus, we are both lying.
     
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    Saying what you believe to be true is not lying, even if it's not entirely accurate. Having said that, I do believe that many republicans are knowingly lying because that hate Obama more than they care about the American people, and are wed to the small government, free market ideology to a fault. Obamacare is complicated and can be spun a lot of different ways. The fact is that people are benefiting from it, even if some others are not happy with it. Can't please all of the people all of the time but it would be easier if the was less politics and more cooperation
     

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