News ABC TV’s Four Corners reveals abuse of Cairns boy

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  1. SFJEFF

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    And that is a terrible tragedy. It would be as accurate to say "These two American guys adopted a baby for sexual pleasure and to whore out to their friends are both Americans and pedophiles.
     
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    Meanwhile in the real world.

    Despite the impassioned efforts by homophobes, the reality is that most child molesters are men who molest girls.

    Between 69-95% of all child molestation is by men abusing girls.

    Think about here on PF- there are dozens of threads about child molestation- but virtually all of them are in regards to crimes that can be labeled as "homosexual pedophilia". Virtually none of them are in regards to the majority of child molestation victims- girls molested by men.

    All of those who post only about pedophiles labeled as homosexuals, should someday show some concern when the crime can't be labeled 'homosexual'.
     
  3. Pasithea

    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    It's sad that conservatives can't condemn all pedophiles and stop trying to paint certain individual human beings who have done nothing even remotely close or atrocious as this in the same brush and move on.
     
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    I am glad to condemn this- and any and all pedophilia. Hopefully these monsters will be locked up and the key thrown away. We need to protect girls and boys from child molesting monsters.

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    I think to be fair- I think that most Conservatives do condemn all pedophiles. I think it is an issue of a very specific subset of Conservatives on PF that can't condemn all pedophiles equally.
     
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    Cute, marriage is the licensing and regulating of heterosexual relationships, that you insist be extended to gays. LICENSING AND REGULATING homosexual relationships.
     
  6. Pasithea

    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    To be fair I think generalizing is a bad thing all around, but I did it as a display of how idiotic it is to the person claiming liberals, at least ones here are apparently not condemning these men for what they did (which a lie because everyone here is is).

    To be even more fair I believe this thread was made as flamebait and only with the intention of painting all gay people with the same pedophilic brush and as an attempt to draw horrible conclusions about the group as a whole thus giving them a reason to deny gay men and women equal rights.
     
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    No one has claimed otherwise.
     
  8. SFJEFF

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    Well I agree with you- and I think it is patently obvious.

    Meanwhile I continue to condemn all child molesters, and hope for better protection of all children- including girls- from sexual assault.
     
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    Yes, that may well be your belief, but it's wrong.

    The thread is about a homosexual couple who purchased a little boy and then not only had their own personal gay sex with the little boy but then rented him out to other homosexual pedophiles so they could use the little boy for gay sex as well. There are so many things wrong and not just with the 2 homosexuals. In fact, one of the people involved in the homosexual pedophilia ring is a lawyer in Florida. A lawyer!!!!! I have a thread created about that despicable man along with a news story but good luck finding the thread as it's been buried in the forum.

    Where were the relatives and friends during all of this? Did nobody suspect anything?

    The fallout is the little boy who probably has zero chance of ever living a normal life. He may end up being a pedophile himself or move toward homosexuality given what he's been through. But, how can he ever be right?

    These 2 homosexual pedophiles should never ever see freedom.
     
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    But someone likes to "hint" it's otherwise, dixon....quite often. Atleast a half dozen OPs a week.
     
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    Yes, or he may end up going on political blogs, trying to create the impression that all homosexuals are pedophiles by doing endless posts on "homosexual pedophilia" in an expression of his own fears and hatreds?

    Anything's possible without lots of psychotherapy.
     
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    yes, you could be right, there is always that possibility. He would need counseling to at least try and help him achieve a normal, heterosexual life.
     
  13. SFJEFF

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    I hope he receives good counseling that helps him able to live a happy and fulfilled life.

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    I feel that way about about all pedophiles who abuse small children, even when they are girls.
     
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    Bastards they are, stay in prison and die there. Who the heck gives a toss if they're gay, straight, bi or whatever? The issue is child abuse. There's a saying that the biggest threat to a child is the mother's boyfriend. And that goes for sexual and/or physical abuse. That's the issue - child abuse. The sexuality of the perpetrator is a red herring.
     
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    You nailed it.
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I would fully appreciate it if you did not alter my posts when you quote me in any shape or form. If it continues I will not hesitate to report you for it.

    And yes, it is rather obvious what you are trying to do here. You want to make all gay men, perhaps even lesbian women, appear to be criminals waiting to strike and harm little children and that simply is not the case.

    Fabulous. Children are hurt and tortured every day of their lives all over the world. Are you going to make threads for all of them too?

    In Uganda for example Joseph Kony is still at large and continuing his parade of torture and evil against not only children but entire families. He collects boys first making them rape their mothers/sisters, then forces them to murder their entire families and they become a part of his little army. He is a black man, but that seems rather irrelevant to the atrociousness of his crimes now doesn't it?

    Or are you only going to post about the horrors of our world if it promotes a personal agenda? For example regularly pointing out that these two men are gay and they also sexually abused a child? You didn't bother to take note on their skin color, their ages, their careers, their hair color, their eye color, their favorite foods, etc. Just have to keep noting that they are gay, which is entirely irrelevant to what has happened. Even if they were straight and had adopted a little girl and pimped her out around the world we'd all find this horrible and atrocious, heterosexuality having nothing to do with it since we know not all heterosexuals are like that and it's stupid to behave as if they are or say stupid things like, "This is why I'm scared to let straight people adopt!"

    Give me a break.

    The fact is that some people do evil things because they are evil people. Not because they are gay, or straight, or black or white, or because they are short or tall or whatever. Just because they are evil. Period.

    Chances are the child they purchased was either sold to them by the parents or had no parents at all.

    How can any child be right after being raped and molested? My close friend was molested by her father when she was 5 and her sister was raped by him. She turned out ok, but still has dysfunctional relationships because of what she went through, her sister on the other hand self medicates with drugs.

    Kids who go through this need a whole hell of a lot of therapy but there is no guarantee that will work either.

    Why does the homosexual part matter? Why are you pointing it out?

    Why am I asking, the truth is once again you intend to paint all homosexuals as evil pedophiles. It's so blatantly obvious.
     
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    No pedophile should be allowed to live.
     
  18. JeffLV

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    How did this topic end up here instead of somewhere like the Law and Justice forum? Kinda strange, it would be like me finding a bunch of news articles about someone who happened to call themselves "Christian", creating topics in the "religion" section with the titles of "Christian Rape", "Christian Murder", "Christian Child Abuse", etc. as though the topic had anything to do with other people who call themselves Christian or imply something about it. One or two cases might just be honest inquiry, but at a certain point it would just be inflammatory and off topic. Of course, I would not do such things because it would be unfair, since crimes of such natures are committed by people of all different stripes and colors and would appear to be nothing more than a personal bias or a hidden agenda to smear, while I prefer to debate more honestly. Meh, just my thoughts.

    In any event, may those two men, who do appear to be gay, rot in prison and hell thereafter.
     
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    http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/HTML/facts_molestation.html

    Again, what does one have to do with the other?
     
  20. sec

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    please do. I can't wait to hear how enlarging or underlining, but not deleting anything is considered "editing" when a particular point is being addressed in a post. I do warn you that several of my posts (16,58,110) within this thread have had that done so let's see if what's good for the goose is good for the gander; shall we? Please report it. It will once again be a test to see if moderating is neutral or biased

    Frankly, I see nothing but the inability to accept what the article discusses as what is going on here. Yes, it's heinous. Yes, it's despicable. And yes, there is a higher proclivity toward these things from 1 demographic. That must be addressed. Who knows, maybe it's part of the keys of unlocking the secret to better understanding homosexuals; who knows. But, to deny reality, and attack posters is a losing position for everyone.
     
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    Already done. Hopefully the mods will take care of this since clearly you have a problem with leaving a person's written text alone.

    Frankly I am with JeffLV on this one and am baffled as to why you posted this here and not in the Law and Justice forum. Oh right, because you are trolling and flamebaiting with your attempts to paint all homosexuals as pedophiles. Of course.
     
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    """I haven't seen anything in this thread that suggests anyone was making the argument that pedophilia is limited to perceived or actual homosexuals."""

    READ YOUR last paragraph in the post here!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Which demographic?

    Pedophiles?- yes pedophiles are more likely to commit child sex abuse.
    Men? - yes it is clear that men are more likely to commit child sex abuse.

    The one very, very clear demographic is that men are far, far more likely than women to molest children.

    How do you think that must be addressed?

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    Particularly ironic since the boy was adopted in Russia- where it is likely that the 'healthy' family of a heterosexual mother and father abandoned the child to the dubious care of the Russian state system.
     
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    Well, if Christians had higher rate of committing rape, murder, child abuse etc it would imply something about Christians.
     
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    No, whats ironic is the fact this child would have been better off being raised by wolves than these two pervs.

    Its that slippery slope (pun intended)... when one addiction leads to another.Gay sex was no longer enough... they needed more excitement.

    And where there's a will, unfortunately there's always a way.
     

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