Did God rape Mary so he could give birth to himself?

The creator god of the bible is a homicidal maniac!

This god is one of the most vile disgusting mass murdering fictitious characters I've ever had the displeasure of reading about!

He's also a pervert for raping 13 year old girls.

Save the nonsense for some one gullible enough to buy it ... logic and reason work quite well for me.

 

Any one believing it is an idiot!

 

No, anyone who believes it is an idiot. Me pointing out the absurdity of a child raping his own mother so she can get pregnant and give birth right back to the child highlights just how devoid of intellect you dorks are.

It's 2014, grow up. God is not real.

 

Beliefs are not based on scientific evidence. Science is not meant to be a religion. Only an idiot would think they are somehow interchangeable. The immaculate conception is not about a child raping its own mother that's just your interpretation from your perspective. Everyone sees things from their own perspective. Some of the most intelligent human beings in recorded history were Theists.

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Why? Is it somehow now wrong to have a belief?

Honestly, why do some of you anti-Christian types exhibit so much hatred for your fellow man?

 

We will create the Gods when we do cleanse out all genes in the DNA

 

if only americans knew and quit bowing down to the illuminazi heathens

 

Your understanding of sexual mores throughout history appears to be viewed thru the distorting lens of what passed for christian morality.

 

The "God" of the Bible is Reality, and all the things you complain of are just the Facts of life.

 

Just posted this on another forum on the same subject. to AKrunner88

We're not talking of todays standards. We're talking of 2000 years ago, a different culture, different standards. Girls of a young age were taught by their mother homemaking and preparations for running a home as a wife. Many young girls of 14 were married and very capable of being so. They were far more mature due to their upbringing than ours today.
There is no indication that Mary was raped by anyone. Today we can fertilise a female without penetration. If you accept that God is God then what is to say he didn't use his power in this way, or some way we don't know about

Your view (AKRunner8 has been expressed many times to deprecate Christian belief, and it is based on speculation. And we have no idea how old Mary was. As I say that is all speculation.

AND I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN in case you're thinking that.

 

You do accept that the whole Roman World was sexually immoral before Christianity, and not so there after until around 1054AD, right?

 

No, I do not accept such.
I accept that sexual mores have always been in a state of flux.

Of course medieval times, christianity readily incorporated succubi and inccubi into their sexual dogma. Nothing like blaming a demon for waking up with a woody.

 

Then how can u prove god exists?

 

You are talking about the times AFTER Christianity had seen the beast of the pagan Rome return again, after 1054AD.
During the 1000 years of Christ, before 1054AD, sex saw a change to prudence and the absolute removal of promiscuity throughout the whole empire.

We can attest to this by noting the removal of nakedness from scultpure and painting until the Renaissance returned the paganism that had once before reigned.

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Science now supports an Observer who would have been necessary for the collapse of the wave Functions of the Big Bang.
This is stated by the Copenhagen Interpretation of Neils Bohr.

 

beast of pagan rome return? are you referring to the schism between catholics and eastern orthodox?

Promiscuity was not elminated to any noteable degree.
the religiously based attitudes that put fig leaves on naked statues is as hypocratic then as it is now.

Despite clearly showing that your "interpretation" of the Copenhagen Interpretation does NOT in any way infer that a creator was required, you insist on regurgitating it.

Neils Bohr most definitely did NOT state anything of the sort since the originators of the big bang theory (Hawking, Penrose, Ellis) weren't even born in 1927.

Since the science seems to be a bit beyond your ken, why not read wiki on the subject to get a better handle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation

Or is this how you treat Truth?

 

Belief is what causes religious people to burn witches at the stake or to strap bombs on and kill innocent people.

Reason and logic are the things that set us free from these barbaric " BELIEFS "

I do not hate my fellow man or christians ... what I hate is stupidity and ignorance.

 

Yes it is a fact that god raped a 13 year old girl and today his holy followers called priests rape 13 year old boys and girls .... well at least the religious lot have been consistent!

 

As I can read and comprehend I'm well aware that you are not a christian.

Since this religion is so full of nonsense I hardly feel remorse for treating it with contempt. The people shouldn't take it personally it's not them I am repulsed by but the silly religion that has warped their ability to think rationally or with reason and logic.

So if I use nonsense to fight nonsense ... I hope you will indulge me!

 

A child by today's standard but not then. How else was Jesus to be born?

 

All people with beliefs are not stupid and ignorant.

 

He's could born from cocoon aliens. Thus proving his unearthly essence. but then it would was the devil.

 

sadly children can be parents.. even in this day and age, in fact some want to force them to be parents against their will if they choose not to be parents


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Hypocrite much?

I'm pretty sure that no one is trying to use science to interpret mythology ... most likely they are using what the religious use and that would be " INTERPRETATION "

 

If not science then you are not using logic to determine that believers (Christians) are idiotic which is actually hypocritical on YOUR part.

 

I don't necessarily think the believers are idiotic as they can be educated .. it is the belief that is idiotic.

When people believe mythology to be factual and representative of reality simple logic and reason can easily point it out ... no hypocrisy there!

 

I am not against scientific study into the origins of life and the Universe however, unless you can create a human being (or Universe) by combining water and elements, describe the entire process, and do so with accurate repetition, then you cannot prove that beliefs in a Creator are mythical and/or idiotic.

That being said, I am not here to say you are not entitled to your opinion however, I do not see enough proof on your side to be able to call those beliefs idiotic.