Did God rape Mary so he could give birth to himself?

Depending on which book of the Bible you read, the impregnation of Mary was consented to by her or was done without her consent but told to her after the fact.

By law, sex without consent in the US is rape. When God used his "Holy Spirit" to impregnate her so she could give birth to... him, she had no say in the matter.

Even in the book of Luke where she did have a say, using your power as an authority figure to coerce someone into having sex with you is illegal under many circumstances and considered immoral anyway. Just because she is 18 and you're her math teacher doesn't mean you're in the right.

 

Mary experienced an Act-of-God when the genes in the baby see was having experienced a mutation which cr4eated the next evolution for mankind.

 

What makes you think God had sex with her?

 

*gets popcorn* This will end a total and complete wreck.........AWESOME!

 

The interesting topic that you have begun to discuss
I'm always was thinking that is a big profanation
Maybe this is just a tale, which been need for very poor people, for that would to humble the spirit them

 

Well, many women experience "an act of god" if you're doing it right. Just sayin....

 

When Christianity was becoming a full-blown religion instead of being an obscure cult it was necessary to flesh out the figurehead called Christ. During the period from about 4 AD to about 11 AD the image and the character of Christ was changed. There were links to pagan religions. The first female of any significance in Christianity was Mary who was drawn from Isis, the Egyptian goddess, the original Earth-Mother. Yeshuah's real mother was shoved into the background and the invented Mary, formerly Isis, was promulgated. This was necessary for Christianity to begin to grow in stature as a religion. The same thing happened when the Christ figure changed from a youth to a Zeus-like figure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dgZyqiGu38

 

This may come as a shock, but that's how babies are made. Unless you know of an alternative not involving test tubes.

 

If we are all gods children, and Mary was one of god's children ... isn't god having a child with Mary a little incestuous?

 

I just don't see how it would apply in this situation since Mary was a corpoareal being and God is not. In other words, it would be impossible for them to have sex.

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Are you serious? We are not literally his children. God is not a physical being.

 

why would a god want to hang out in a 13 year old girls body for 9 months, he could of just thought it.. and it would be... no need to enter this world through a 13 year old girl... sounds kinda pedophilist


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searching for logic in religious dogma is like fishing with dynamite. Damn hard to miss.

 

Artificial insemination ......derp! How silly of a topic to claim Mary was "raped". Just another example of how ignorance and bigotry are not a good combination.

 

Exactly. This is just a flamebait thread. If God can create people from dust and ribs, obviously normal human procreation does not apply.

 

Sorry, I don't buy your crap. It sounds absurd because it is absurd. Christianity is absurd. God the father magically raped Mary without her consent so she could give birth to Jesus the Son, who actually is the father, making the father rape the mother who is actually the daughter? You couldn't even make that (*)(*)(*)(*) up on the worst episode of Maury.

Luke 1:26. As Luke recounts, God sent the angel Gabriel to Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to Joseph. Now, let us take pains to notice that they are already betrothed, and due to the fact that they are traveling over long distances together we can infer they are already living together, otherwise it would be unusual for them to be traveling companions. Mary would most likely travel with family, or with a female chaperon in addition to Joseph, but it is clear by this point in their travels they boarding together and the like, that Mary and Joseph have been together as a couple for quite some time. At the very least, we can admit they are not unfamiliar to each other. Oh and by the way, she's 13.

Now in verse 28 of Luke, Gabriel tells Mary that she is highly favored and that the Lord has singled her out chosen her to be the recipient of his magical seed divine gift. Mary’s reaction is quite normal for a young woman who has just been informed that her stalker wants to have his way with her, she becomes terrified and distraught! Verse 29 states it best: Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be.

Apparently the angel noticed her nervousness as he jumped right into the apologetics of the set-up, saying to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you will call him Jesus.”

I doubt that did much to calm Mary’s nerves. Notice the part where the angel TELLS her that she WILL (a certitude) conceive, and that she WILL (a demand) name the newborn Jesus, or Immanuel (i.e., “God is with us”).

Does the angel ask her whether or not she’d be willing to be the vessel of the divine seed of her people’s God? Nope. She’s just a woman. All she is good for, apparently, is making babies. Another hint that we’re dealing with a Bronze Age mentality which views women as chattel, property, and not equals in society.

Reading ahead a bit to verse 38, the verse many Christians site as the spot where Mary gives her consent, Mary responds to the angel by saying, “I am the Lord’s servant,” and continued to say, “May your word to me be fulfilled.”

Another way to say the same thing might be better expressed as: "I am your servant, do as you wish." Notice this is not an explicit nor implicit agreement. She is stating that because she is a servant she has not choice in the matter but to obey. This is a slave mentality, and well, in the world of sex slaves where women who are sold off as items (chattel) to be owned by a master, they might say something like, “I am but a servant, do with me as you wish.”

They would say this precisely because they haven’t been given any other choice, any way out, or any viable alternative which considers their safety let alone intrinsic worth as a human being. Instead, they are put into the position of having to protect themselves from any additional harm which may befall them for disobedience by the one attempting to dominate them. One of the ways they may choose to do this is by cordially agreeing to (graciously) accept (receive) their abuse—as all good servants are expected to do. Do you see why it's a slave mentality at the root of this thinking? If not, Mary would have assuredly said something entirely different than what she did.

Mary said, “May your word to me be fulfilled.” That’s saying, “If you say so, then so be it.” But let’s not mistake it for a resounding, glee filled, orgasmic “Yes! Oh, yes, Lord! Take me now!” Because it’s not. Does the black female slave deny her master?

And if Jesus and God are one, even before Jesus' actual birth, then apparently Jesus impregnated his own mother.

But it's cool, continue believing your retarded bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

If god is not corporeal (how you know that is itself another mystery, and if not corporeal tgen what?), how did he produce spermatozoa? And how were same inserted? And how did god know Mary was ovulating?

 

Yawn.....what a heaping load of crap. So you think sex is the only way a woman can get pregnant? Ignorance and bigotry go hand in hand once again.

 

Excellent post!
It's a shame there are some who haven't progressed from that century to this but seeing women as broodstock suits their purpose......

 

Well seeing how God created womankind in such a way as they are the ones who have children He can do pretty much as He sees fit. No need to be angry because you think women got the short end of the stick just suck it up, dear, that is life.

 

Such a christian attitude....and using some make believe god to further their misogyny....

 

Since when is childbirth "misogyny"? Do you have issues dear?

 

Are you serious? You literally think god exists?

How about Zeus ... Thor ... Santa Clause ... the Easter Bunny ...?

 

That gives a whole new meaning to Heavenly Father.

Zeus came down as a snake to pleasure the ladies. I wonder what God's trick was.

 

The Greek gods were anthropomorphic. They were really no different than us. Think of them as people with super powers.

 

It was his "Holy Spirit" that did the trick if you know what I mean, or "the trinity."