Sam the Ram. First openly gay player will play for St. Louis

Now you are conflating Sam's draft position (7th round...which was surprisingly low given his conference player of the year award) with his value to his new NFL team.
The SEC isn't exactly a powder puff league. Given Sam's record, if he was NOT gay would he have still been around for the seventh round?
It's doubtful.

 

Obviously you don't understand the free speech clause, which has to do with government suppression of speech.

Contrary to what Sarah Palin believes, the constitution does not protect you from being criticized.

 

Did I say it does? Did I say anything about government?

I said it's a myth, and I said you are free to say anything you want but if your opinion isn't the right one, prepare to suffer the constant barrage of 'racist' 'homophobe' and your career put in jeopardy.

Yeah, thats what I said. Tell me I'm wrong.

That's not really free. That's "somewhat free that you won't spend the rest of your life in jail but there are other ways to take everything away from you if your opinion isn't what we want to hear" free.

 

Eh college and the pros are totally different.

Like I said on page... 3 or so... Sam isnt built for the NFL. He's too small to play DE and too slow to play LB, so in essence he isn't suited to play anything except maybe FB.

Not so say he can't work on his speed or put on weight, but players similar to him are already that far ahead of him. When a DE has a slow 40 time and a slow shuttle run (of which Sam had both), and is undersized to begin with, there isn't many places to put him except on 3rd and long passing situations to give the fat boys a breather.

I think if he wasn't gay, he may not make the team, but I don't see any way he doesn't. If the Rams cut him, they will be the next to take a publicity hit, and its not worth it. Personally, I'd be upset if I was his teammate, not because hes gay, but because hes gay and will probably earn a spot on the roster that he doesn't deserve.

Rams will probably play it safe, let him go all the way to the final cut, and if they cut him, offer him a spot on the practice squad to keep the gay community off their backs.

 

How big is your box?

 

It's called depth. Two guys get hurt and Samm may be needed to fill a more significant role. Also your never gonna get cut conspiracy is BS too. Collins was signed because they needed an experienced big due to injury and he was not let go after he came out. He was already a FA and it took a year for someone to pick him up. Samm if he doesn't fit will be cut too.

 

I love the people who call Sherman a gangster. The Stamford grad is ten times smarter than some dude who calls himself trucker.

 

Why? What's the issue?

 

Pretty silly if you think one has to be in a front office to know what a football team needs lol

 

Yes, it most certainly is freedom. And these things are what happen when your freedom clashes with others' freedoms. For example, you're free to call your girlfriend a b****, just as she's free to break up with you. You also don't have a right to a job. Yeah, you can be fired if you do or say something that makes your employer look bad. That's life, man. Deal with it. Life isn't free from consequences.

 

Why? Fans may THINK they know what a team needs, but that is simply just an opinion. The Rams brass may have a very informed reason why they took Samm, so unless they are in the front office one would not know that reason.

 

And the people in the front office only have an opinion too ... Hence why teams still go 2-14 . It really isn't incredibility challenging to see what a team lacks and what they have .

 

Yeah well I remember when the Packers took Aaron Rodgers in the first round and some of my fellow Packer fans were livid asking why they would waste a pick when the team already has a Hall of Famer at the position. Well now they may have two consecutive Hall of Famers. Why someone would get upset at a team taking a depth DE in the seventh round claiming it is simply because of his sexuality is beyond me. The guy was his conferences player of the year for Christ's sakes.

 

Different people have different opinions . I don't think the 7th round pick was that important for the rams and even the positive publicity alone they will likely receive could make it worth it.

 

Don't worry too much about this pick rooster. I told my wife when the 4th round passed and no Michael Sam in site that since the Rams have 12 draft picks altogether, including about four or five compensatory picks, that the LEAGUE will make sure Sam will be drafted and the Rams will be the victim. It happened.

 

And they did...see my above post.

 

Really? So the Rams were the victim of this vast conspiracy by being forced to take a conference player of the year in the seventh round? Wow what a dastardly plot.

 

It's a shame so many down Richard Sherman for this incident. IMO he is one of the most intelligent and obviously passionate players in the league. I am a huge fan, how people cannot understand the emotional state he was in when he said that, I'll never know...

Every time someone says they don't like him for such I instantly think ..... "Beta male."


As to the OP, must admit I hate the Rams, so I hope he doesn't do TOO terribly well.

But it's a start, I look forward to the day when no one cares about gay nfl players or black hockey players or asian basketball players or whatever. One day...

 

Nope. Don't think so.

 

I called it immediately after the 4th round ended. No one in the League was that impressed with Michael Sam...especially AFTER his performance at the Combine in April. He sucked. But the LEAGUE wasn't going to stand by and go thru a possible...make that probable lawsuit. Why do you think Sam exited the closet right AFTER the 2013 season ended? Never mind, you already know everything about everything anyway.

 

First off, his contract expired the year he came out, and he was not re-signed. Secondly, your argument that the Nets needed an experience post player to fill in for injured players doesn't hold water when he only played 380 minutes TOTAL in the two seasons prior. No, there is no logical reason to sign Collins to a contract when there are other, more versatile, younger, more experienced players than him, other than the fact he's gay. Sorry, being 35 years old doesn't make you a hot commodity on the free agent market.

And no, Sam will not be cut. Bad PR is not worth the 54th roster spot (or 57 now, I believe they changed it for the upcoming season).

 

Hence, why I said it's a myth.

If your opinion doesn't align with whatever group is the most vocal (and lately that has been blacks and gays) then you better not say anything at all. Even if your religious beliefs teach you that homosexuality is wrong (and no I am not religious), you have to deal with it because the gay community is loud and proud, and God help you if think it's wrong.

No, tolerance only goes one way in this world, and that is the way of the loudest group. You can be black and hate whites all you want (see Sharpton, Al) and I couldn't care less. You could be a hippie weed smoker and hate the military all you want, I couldn't care less. You could be a feminist and hate males all you want, I couldn't care less, and all those are acceptable in society. But if you are a white male, you damn sure better keep your opinion to yourself if you don't agree with any of those groups.

 

The media covering all this makes me sick to my stomach. To venerate a pervert like this just confirms this country is done for and all moral discretion has largely been obliterated. We shouldn't be happy for this, but sad. To openly defy the laws of nature, and Christ, is a terrible place to be.

 

Quite a few notables.

Jay Ratliff
Troy Brown
Seth Joyner
Harold Carmichael
Marques Colston
Dwight Clark
Donald Driver
Terrell Davis
Richard Dent
Shannon Sharpe

So those a just a few of the players who were drafted in the latter rounds who become pro bowlers in the NFL.

 

This is not a theocracy, therefore your religion does not make the rules.

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Wrong- what you're upset about is that you don't get to discriminate against those groups anymore. That's what really p***** you off.