We men aren't free

We're really not and for the purpose of this thread, I'll refrain from my opposition to Feminism and simply state: If a Female has complete biological control, men themselves do not have that same control over their own bodies. Forget political ideology, we're all men here: Have we ever NOT been horny at any given time?

Sorry for making a gross generalization(which I try to avoid), but I'll go out on a limb and say we've all experienced a "tinge' at least once in our lifetimes. But in 2014, that "tinge" has several roadblocks and obstacles that make it undesirable:

-We could be played on the dating scene
-We could be conscripted into Fatherhood, even if the woman concurred to protection.
-Want a child? Too bad, the fate of the child is in her hands.

Frankly, we men are sexual slaves to women. This isn't merely a physical phenomenon, it's also an economic one. Even Marriage is financially burdensome. Now, we may very well find a woman that's actually worth this suffrage(or we could just be sexually desperate) but why should we?

We're still hardwired in a world that no longer exists. A world that irregardless of what a Feminist may say, was actually fair to both sides(give or take.) A Female might've been a stay-at-home mom, but the husband was a breadwinner. The pure irony is that in this world, females "had it all" moreso than now:

Maybe not the career, but she was financially secure, she had a well-bred family and despite propaganda to the contrary, most men actually loved their wives!(How very strange it would be not to love the mother of your child.)

That's not the world you live in today men. No, the world you live in is a world where there's a growing argument for flex-hours, which WILL cut your wages.

Not 'maybe', it WILL cut your wages.

Why? Does the Feminist believe she'll get her flex wage jobs whilst there are full-time working men? Of course not, from a business perspective the business would much rather the full-time worker. But a little stomping and girlie signs later, said business will be accused of sexism.

Rather than lose business, the business will adapt "flex hours" as the lone option of working going forward. Male/Female incomes will finally be 'equal', but not as a result of a market boom But a downgrade. We'll become an underclass(if we're not one already.)

The world today equates you to every rapist, murderer, domestic abuser and has absolutely no shame in doing so. The World today doesn't acknowledge your plight. When's the last time you heard "appeal to male voters". Never? That's correct!

The world today is a political rat maze, where no matter where we go our Feminist Masters are aware of our thoughts. But why is such a world possible?

Because of our sexual desire for women. Unlike Pregnancy, which may or may not occur, men are born with this biological defect from the beginning. A woman is able to compel us because our orientation largely enables it so. If men hold out, he's the one losing out. Women hold no biological or emotional feelings for men.

What a woman cares about, her only motivation for a relationship is how well he can care for her. And not a single woman can refute that assertion. Frankly, we men need to look at sex like a woman looks at pregnancy: An unwanted burden, a shackle. As long as men are sexually interested in women(and frustrated), women will continue to rule over the domestic sphere of life and our lives overall.

But what if we could kill our sexual desire for women? What if we could turn off the "switch" at will? The entire game changes. We'd no longer be emotionally dependent on women, a woman could no longer throw her body at him for her own purposes. Or use guys as a glorified sex toy!

A woman would actually have to give a man some convincing reasons to have sex with her.(Among which, she'd have to make him believe she's in love with him) An Anti-sex pill would be as revolutionary as the BC Pill. Men taking control of their bodies.

Hell, much more than that. We'd be freeing our minds from Feminist slavery.

 

When exactly was this mythical time period of yours?

Because I can remember women whose husband abandoned them- and their children- to run off with another woman- and the original wife and mother had to beg the ex for money to support the family.

Women with their own means of earning an income are not dependent on the whims of their man.

Men can control their own bodies just fine. Seriously- you don't want sex- there are some fine anti-depressants that will pretty much kill any sexual desire.

But thinking you are subject to some 'Feminist slavery' is just delusional.

 

It usually just requires enough money for men to be this "free" under any form of Capitalism:

 

It's people that share your intellectually repulsive pseudo ideology that are an embarassment tio white men

I'm a white male over 50, and nobody oppresses me, because I'm sucessful. Only people wanting to shift the blame away from how they put themselves in the trailer park, and lost their front teeth, want to blame others for their impotent and pathetic lives.

Your position on this is rank with unupported conclusions, .


Have a nice day

 

Are you done? This forum wasn't meant for you to go off on a soapbox. Though I can be forgiving if the truth I've laid out touches on some wounds

 

Was it not You that stood up on their soapbox by starting this thread, hmmmmm? Truth, yeah right, one mans "truth" is another mans garbage.

 

Not a soapbox, a proven fact. Had I said "Women are being oppressed", along with Feminist talking points I'd be warmly accepted. But because I've pointed out the plight of men, I got the kind of objectionable response I knew I'd get.

 

You must be one of the only men here that believes they are in some sort of plight, it must be everyone else that is confused, it could not be you, now could it.........

 

I've seen a lot of better arguments that address the problems and bigotry that men face. The thread is preetty general.

That said, I can always tell what men is a mangina and who isn't.

A mangina is a man who has been emasculated and think women are so special, more special than men, so that she has to be the boss of the men, and the only thing a man can do is nod their heads and agree to just sit down and take the abuse without any sort of defense. They will always protect the woman no matter how vitriolic and toxic she is. The word itself is a meshing of the word man and vagina.

I could post a few videos on this phenomenon, but people won't be receptive to it.

 

Oh wow, where do I start? How about your short attention span?

but then...

And then you said

but you go on to say

How did you not notice this?

so could women?

If you're using adequate protection you can't be conscripted into fatherhood. Unless a woman sabotages your birth control it's on you.

This is because the woman is the one who has to carry it for nine months. Don't like it? Wait for test tube babies to be perfected. Until then you'll just have to convince a woman that carrying your child will be worth it. I can see why this is a problem for you.

Haha, no.

Don't get married then. It's as simple as that.

Because apparently you want to?

As was previously mentioned, women were oftentimes left to fend for themselves after a man left them. Who wants to be at the mercy of another human being? I find it hard to believe that these marriages were as happy as you think they were.

I don't know what kind of businesses you've been working for but in my experience the bolded part is absolutely not true. At my last job, people who worked there for a few years were sometimes given 39 hours so they wouldn't be considered full time. Some people got about ten hours a week. It's cheaper to hire people part time because they aren't subject to the same protections.

The first part is only true among a tiny fraction of feminists. Appeals aren't made to male voters because men don't share many interests as a group.

You could just not have sex with women. Or you could become a eunuch. I think you should go with the latter option.

I thought you said women don't have sexual desire?

If women weren't already giving men convincing reasons to have sex with them, men wouldn't be having sex with them.

Why is love a prerequisite for sex?

Forget this talk of anti-libido pills. I still think you should become a eunuch.

Overall this is a terrible manifesto. Try harder.

 

Wow! you are being played into us versus them scenario. Not good. there are stupid women and their stupid men. On the top of it there wouldn't be all those silly laws if at least some of the men wouldn't voted them.
All this male-female conflicts are being promoted by the anti-family groups.

 

Not really, no.

It's primarily feminists and their manginas that are engaging in these hostilities.

 

I agree with the overall premise that females are essentially in charge of any sexual relationship, that men are sexually subject to the whims of women, and that is mainly due to the biological differences between the sexes.

But fault also lies with the younger generation that has produced a bunch of mangina white knights that cater to every want and hope of women, putting them on pedestals and pampering them at every turn. Men in general today refuse to stand up for themselves. Why would a woman work for anything when she has 50 potential mates chasing after her and fulfilling every one of her superficial desires?

I don't ascribe to this, and neither should any man in the younger generation because it's done nothing but spoil women. The men are just as much to blame for this, if not more, than women. They're the ones mainly responsible for their rationale.

 

As much as I'd love to have twenty-year-old knees again, I don't think I'd trade places with one of today's twenty-year-old guys.

The age-old bargain between the genders, which was found to be workable in every major civilization extant today, has been thrown out the window.

Guys have become the new (N-word).

They are reacting by doing the only logical thing - withdrawing from having anything to do with females over and beyond what they have to do on the job. West Point male third classmen are told that their female classmates are more dangerous to their careers than any armed enemy they'll ever come across. Keep it by the book.

Want more rigorous information on the subject? Read Men on Strike by Dr. Helen Smith.

 

I thought women believed in equal work for equal pay? When are gangs of chics going to try to use me for sex and have me complain i can't handle uncommitted sex; or, at least clamor for a relationship?

 

True equality will exist when it is no longer socially acceptable for a woman to slap a man, or when a man can slap a woman in retaliation with no recourse.

 

Not for me; When are gangs of chics going to try to use me for sex and have me complain i can't handle uncommitted sex; or, at least clamor for a relationship?

 

That is precisely how I feel about those that perpetuate the anti rich/ anti capitalist sentiment that fills this board.

 

Do not confuse healthy feminism with the venomous feminism through which angry women spit their venom to all the men. The good feminism is where women and men care about the overall wellness of men and women. The overall result should be an improvement for both, and i don't care if by doing this the " alpha " males will lose their power, the important thing is to level the discrepancies.

 

You wish.....

 

Christianity was organized by men who did take control of their bodies, 144,000 guys who remained non-sexual straight guys in order to over come this matriarchy which sex can allow women to build up.

But today, we need a guy like Santorum to promote the truth about consequences of Feminism since the sexual revolt of 1960.

Santorum needs show the Child Abuse of half the kids in America raised fatherless by single mothers.
That would get the good women to make marriage the price for sexual relationships once again and return America to he conditions of 1950.

 

Simply put, don't have sex with any woman that you wouldn't mind having a relationship with for the next 19 years (that relationship may just be financial......).

 

should men complain about equal pay for equal work in the porn sector?

 

I don't have issues with women, maybe because I choose them with my big head.

 

Just doesn't understand the yearning to be a victim these days.

Also the OP forgot a very important option from the initial list:

-Unless you've lost both arms or hands, you've got options on dealing with sexual frustration yourself.