Please Impeach Obama!

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  1. Finley99

    Finley99 New Member

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    I said old POOR folks. They vote Democrat...that's why.

    Right now the Republican party as a whole is in the worst shape during my lifetime. 'Course I missed the Hoover years, barely, but I saw the depression which was the result of it. I also saw FDR display the same courage and commitment that John Kennedy did before some right wing idiot murdered him.
     
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    Clinton didn't get impeached for having an affair. He was impeached for lying under oath to a grand jury. Amazing how people still fail to grasp this concept.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    My mother died at 92 years old and had been blind since her mid-30's and she voted in every election and the last 10 years had her ID with which to do so.

    In Democrat prescients.

    Extended voting periods curtailed due to cost and the fact we are all supposed to vote as closely as possible so we are all voting with the same information.

    Funny how for all those many years voting on the same day was never a problem.

    Those tax cuts produced more revenue so what are you talking about?

    Flat out wrong and it isn't "under Obama" it's under Obama and the Democrats. They took the $161B deficit Bush and the Republicans handed them and in two years turned it into $1,400B and yes that 2009FY budget is Obama's budget, it was held up until he won the election so that it would include his spending priorities and HE signed it into law. So don't come back with that was a Bush increase. That boat won't float.
    You mean the bipartisan ones, the ones who Hillary Clinton was on of the most vocal and unequivocal supporters?

    With both wars going Bush and the Republican brought the deficits from the 2000/2001 recession down from $400B to a paltry $161B so what exactly are you talking about? With the war in Iraq ended and the one in Afghanistan rolled back Obama and the Democrat increased it to the $1,400B.
     
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    Actually, Clinton is remembered for his balanced budget with a projected surplus and the family leave act, among other things he accomplished. His Impeachment made the Republicans look bad and petty. I personally never lied Clinton and I think what he did set women's issue back many years, but reality is what it is.
     
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    he lied about an affair, one which he never should of been asked about under oath... republicans had nothing then and have nothing now
     
  6. Bluespade

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    Sorry, but banging a fat girl who happens to not to be your wife in the oval office is supposed to be below the office of the President of the United States. If Clinton wouldn't have lied he wouldn't have been impeached. It's that simple. You have no moral highground in this argument.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    No they don't necessarily do so and they easily obtain other forms of ID which are required in normal day to day life. Getting one is no more a hardship than going to cast the vote.

    Balony, in my over 40 years of voting I have never seen a poll worker whom I knew personally.

    It is absurdly unreasonable to believe the poll workers are going to know everyone in the town or city in which you live.​
     
  8. expatriate

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    My father died at the age of 95. He didn't have a valid photo ID from the age of 82 when he let his license expire. He never needed one for any reason from then until he died.



    maybe they just don't want to admit that they know you. When I lived in Augusta, Maine, I knew at least one poll worker at my polling place every time I voted.


    that's why most towns have more than one polling place and more than one poll worker.
     
  9. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are you an American citizen and did you ever study civics? The CONGRESS controls spending NOT the President. If the President has a Congress of his party or at least one house then he has more input into it but it is still the Congress that controls the budget NOT the President.

    That being said each and every year of the Reagan presidency he requested LESS spending than congress authorized fighting for lower spending, had they accepted his budgets and all the recessions he submitted the deficits the last three years of his term would have been under $100B and on a downward curve. They did not and spent more than he requested.

    As for Bush41 have you really forgotten the "no new taxes"pledge he broke when he entered into the agree with the Democrats to give them their tax increase if they would cut spending? Guess what, they never cut the spending.

    So what is your basis for blaming them for the deficits and result debt?

    Clinton? He came into office on a strong recovery with a strong upward curve in tax revenue growth already going. His tax increase slowed that growth from 9% down to 7%, he added more basis points to tax rates and the growth slowed costing us revenues. He also requested MORE spending each year than congress authorized. It was the Republican congress led by Gingrich and Kasich who forced the restraint in spending growth and forced him to sign the tax rate cuts that got the economy back on track and revenue growth soared to double digit increases and also forced him to sign welfare reform and altogether produced the surpluses we had. So why do you give him credit for them?

    Them came Bush43 who came into office during the 2000/2001 recession, dot.com bust and 9/11. And inspite of all that the worst Bush/Republican deficit was a one year $400B. And as you noted they fastracked the tax rate cuts and revenues soared and they lowered the deficit down to a paltry $161B by 2007.

    THEN the Democrats along with one Senator Obama took over the budget and in two years raised the deficit almost 9 fold to a whooping $1,400B in the 2009FY budget which President OBAMA signed into law. And they kept it over $1,000B for the next four years and it is STILL more than 50% higher than the worst Bush/Republican deficit. So why do you attribute the 2008 and 2009 budget deficits to Bush when his budges were DOA as Reid and Pelosi proudly announced at time and Obama fully supported and voted for the 2008 and the 2009 was delayed until his election and included his spending priorities and HE sign it into law?
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    If he wanted to vote in most places he did, if he wanted to use a credit card he did, if he had to apply for federal funds he did, if he wanted to travel he did, if he was called to serve on a jury he did, if he wanted to take out a loan he did. That he apparently did nothing in his life does not mitigate the fact that ID's are readily and cheaply obtainable.


    So what? No I have never known a poll worker at a polling place especially one that had knowledge and could attest to my address and to assert this is how we should guard our voting is absurd.

    No it isn't and the fact is I don't vote in a neighborhood polling location, because of the Voting Rights Act I have to drive several miles to mine.

    So what is the test for hiring polling workers in your world, they have to know and be able to attest to the identity AND confirm the addresses of several thousand people in the city/town by memory?

    Do you really want to assert and standby such absurdity?
     
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    He lied during a federal civil rights lawsuit concerning his sexual assault and harassment of a subordinate worker about his propensity to engage in sexual relationships or attempts to gain sexual favor from subordinate workers. Which by the way is against federal workplace rules especially engaging in sex in a federal building especially when that worker is getting paid. And then again in a federal grand jury.

    Guess you never heard of the Molinari Amendment which HE signed into law with much fanfare by feminist groups which REQUIRE such testimony about sexual relationships with subordinate workers when you are getting sued by another worker for sexual harassment. Jones and her attorneys had every right to persue such testimony as evidence of his engaging in such acts in the workplace and rewarding the employees who grant him sexual favor. Guess you didn't read the transcripts where Judges Wright, a former student of Clinton who was appointed by Clinton, summarily dismiss his attorney's objections to such testimony and he was given a direct order to testify to the whole truth of the matter which included sexual acts of any kind.

    It wasn't Republicans it was Jone's attorney's and the special prosecutor and Judges Wright. They had prima facie evidence of perjury and obstruction of justice, felonies. And it was both the federal court and the grand jury in which he committed the acts.

    He should have been removed from office, PERIOD.
     
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    Didn't say they were going to know everyone, although in many cases they do and yet have not reported any fraud. If you are only 60, have only been voting for 40 years, the DMV is already a pain in the butt. When you've been voting for sixty years you'll find the DMV more of a hardship.

    An unnecessary hardship. When folks show up at the voting booth and are told someone else already voted with their name and address, already used the registration they submitted, well that indicates there's a problem. Hasn't happened yet. I see no proof at all that there is any kind of problem requiring this extra security and associated hardship.

    We got enough real problems, it foolish to waste time and resources solving ones that don't exist.



     
  13. expatriate

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    my father was a former politician, powerful attorney, and very successful and wealthy investor. He did't need to use his ID to vote... everyone in town KNEW him. He didn't need a credit card. He always had lots of cash. He traveled all over the world before he settled down in his later years and he certainly NEVER needed to take out a loan. Your attempts to besmirch him make me laugh.




    give the ID away for free in every instance and I have no problem with it.



    Like I said... give the ID away for free and I could care less.... I've voted legally and correctly for well over 40 years myself and I have not once had to show an ID in order to do so.
     
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    33% of Americans are morons who thought the Magic Mulatto could quickly fix all our longstanding problems.
     
  15. Finley99

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    Just watch the news....It's happening in every state where a Republican governor can have their way. Gerrymandering, redistricting, placing any kind of voting restrictions they can think of to hinder Democrat voting, etc. More Democrats have to work harder and stay on the job more than the more well off Republicans so any shortening of voting times or voting places or requiring any new restrictions puts more difficulty into the activity for them. It's not like this hasn't been reported. Every news channel has covered this except Fox and why would Roger Ailes want that? He wouldn't and that's why the network doesn't do it.

    Also...any comment you made about the Bush vs Obama budgets are so full of schit they stink...'course ending one Bush was and throttling down another one helps cut expenses. It'll do it every time. If John McCain could have his way we'd be bombing two or three countries right now. Thank goodness that old bastard didn't get elected.

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    Then there was Chicago and Illinois......New York City and New York. Then Los Angeles. Also you can throw in all major Cities led by a Democratic government and those 17 States they control.

    When a Party has to rely on dividing the Country up......just in order to win. Pretty much shows what true Intentions were always about. Which with the Democrats.....it was never about being or doing whats Right.
     
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    Let's wait until Republicans control both the House and Senate. Then again, we do not need the Senate to impeach, we only need the senate to convict and remove Obama from office.
     
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    On what grounds because being black isnt one of them.
     
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    Within the blackness there is always the light.
     
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    I think it's time to admit that you guys are getting desperate
    Your hoping too take a time machine back to the Clinton era, where a republican over reach with their impeachment of Clinton. Here's what you're forgetting, Clinton was ten times the president Obama is
    Clinton ran a functioning executive branch, and was able to work with congress.
    The Clinton admin was ten times more competent than that clown show Obama rules over.
    Clinton had an economy that people were able to prosper
    What the hell do we have now? Stagnant wages, part time work, and a crappy healthcare plan.

    So keep sitting behind your little keyboard praying for a impeachment:rolleyes:
    You hacks are getting sadder by the day.
     
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    Why is Clinton viewed as a better President than Bush by the right these days?
     
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    Get used to it. Unless the modern Republican party can come up with a way to get some more votes from the young, the Hispanics, the Blacks, LGBT's, the Jews etc. they're finished as a political party when it comes to presidential elections. All they've done since president Blackenstein has been in office is block as many of his efforts as they possibly could:

    [video=youtube;W-A09a_gHJc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc[/video]
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    Well they would have to know everyone for your system to work.
    I'm over 60 and it is no more pain in the butt than before.

    When dead people sstart wanting to vote let me know. With mail in and on the street registration by volunteers how do you stop someone from registering phony names then voting under that name?

    OH well that settles YOU don't see it. How do you catch it?

    Specious we can deal with lots of problems at the same time and doesn't waste time or resources. It is a good thing such ID's are avaliable to all citizens for a variety of reasons and it also aids in protecting the integrity of the voting system and aids the process itself.



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    So what and I have no reason to believe EVERYONE in the town knew him and his address.

    Never stayed in a hotel?

    Never rented a car? Never shopped online?

    Your attempts to equate a rather ridiculas manner to handle day to day life to every other citizen makes me laugh and quite frankly is not very believable. I take it he is no longer living by your grammer. When exactly did he pass away?

    Voter ID is a no brainer not only does it help protect the integrity of the voting system it makes.voting itself washerwoman and quicker and more accurate.

    It is in most places and paying a minimal cost of under $10 is certainly not a hardship or burden.
     
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    There is no more "gerrymandering" by Reps than Dems. Nor doing voting days or hours affect one more than others. Extended voting days pose all sorts of problems sending need to deal with.

    Then refute them. Prove that the 2009 budget was not held up until after the election and that Bush signed it into law else admit you don't know what you are talking about.

    Fact the last Bush/Republican budget was 2007 and ended with a $161B deficit. Prove that to be wrong.
    Fact the Bush budget submissions for 2008 and 2009 were DOA and completely ignored by Pelosi and Reid. Prove that to be wrong.
     

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