Why is it racist to hate the thug black culture ?

Because no empirical evidence shows cause and effect between the two.

The association is myth

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No his sarcasm is accurate because the claim is false.

 

Yes it is. Republicans want to do away with racism and the Democrats still
want to keep it alive and well.

 

You're fooling yourself. Your Republican Party of today doesn't even resemble that of 1968, much less 1868.

And the part about the Democrats is merely a blatant lie.

 

Oh, your assuming I'm a Republican. At any rate, I'm not fooling myself.
The Republican party wants to do away with racism.

No, the Democrats do more to further a racial divide than close it.
They look for a racist under every rock and if they can't find one
they'll make something up.

 

I hate to break some shocking news to you, almost everybody wants to do away with racism. The only exceptions are the racial purity/separatists, the vast majority of which are white. And typically conservative. Super21 on these threads is an example. But that doesn't change the fact that today's Republican Party has no resemblance to any of its previous iterations. Not Nixon's, not Rockefeller's. Hardly even the one of the two Bushs. You've allowed extremists to take over your party. Pretty tragic, actually. Tragic for the entire nation.

The last part is just another blatant lie that you have purchased hook, line and sinker.

 

Cliven Bundy and his gang of armed henchmen.

 

I am with you OP. I generally like black people, but I dislike the stupid thug culture that so many of them conform to. It boggles my mind why many blacks identify with this gangster sub culture so much. I keep rooting for them to move beyond that stuff, but they just keep letting me down.

 

I hate to break some shocking news to you, and you know this, the
Democrats, who are controlled by left winged extremism, are stoking the
fire for racism. They are doing nothing to put it out. Absolutely nothing.

No, they aren't conservative. The left and the media call them
conservative. They are kooks. You didn't mention the Black Panthers,
Rev. Jackson, Sharpton Wright and the Nation of Islam. There are
many others.

What extremists have taken over the Republican party? I've not noticed
any. In fact I've been thinking of coming back to support them because
they're becoming less Collectivist.

No, as I've mentioned, it's the truth. Some people just won't look at who
they support. I guess it doesn't bother you that Democrats and the left
are doing nothing to improve racial relations.

 

Nixon was one of the men responsible for why the party is the way it is today. They pandered to racist morons, and they are slowly but surely destroying the party. Then again, I'm convinced the Republican party will eventually start to completely ignore their George Wallace voting base, as they can't pander to them anymore without pissing off the growing "Hispanic" population. It's gotten so bad for them at this point, that even Cubans are starting to leave the party. In 2013, almost as many Cubans identified as Democrats as Republicans.

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The KKK, white nationalists, etc, aren't social conservatives, eh?

What are they then? A bunch of pot smoking hippie liberals? Bwuahaha.

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"white thug culture" is a bunch of white Canadians rioting after their Hockey team lost.

But conservatives usually don't like talking about that.

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No, the claim was correct. Absolutely correct.

 

Also consider that a significant amount of cops then (even sheriff's), were members of the KKK themselves. In fact, that still even happens today (although to a far less extent).

So yeah, it's no surprise that blacks don't trust cops, especially white cops. You have to earn trust.

 

No the sarcasm was correct the details were false

 

There's nothing racist about hating thug culture. A thug can be of any color.

Now if you take that and assume that all black folks, or even most black folks, are thugs, that's racist. Or if for some reason you only had a problem with black thugs.

But there's nothing racist about hating a culture that objectifies women, glorifies drugs and alcohol, and praises violence.

 

You may want to define what is this phenomenon and to refrain from using a leading question.

One thing's for sure, the "thug black culture" ever what it may be would not exist if the Black Panthers had their way and young people were organized into militant, politically informed groups who are motivated to live drug free lives, be fully armed against government intrusionism, and keep the streets clear of drugs, crime, and police abuse as happened for a short while in the 1960s.

 

Black people are hardly perfect. But it is exceedingly CLEAR, that White Americans are so blinded by their sense of 'privilege', they lack greatly in their ability to be effectively introspective and critical of themselves.

That's CULTURAL, not 'genetic'.

 

Who doesn't hate the black thug culture? Never seen something so vulgarly bully and hatefully ignorant. That's also a byproduct of white on black racism and discrimination, one more reason to hate it.

 

You NAILED IT!! (Especially in the part I quoted.) White folks standing comfortably back, thinking their hands are 'culturally' clean, aren't being realistic.

There are parts of Black/White culture, that most reasonable and truly decent people would prefer to see fade away. But calling out the problems is the only START or THRUST for that, I know of.

Let's get on with it and KEEP ON with it.

 

That's exactly what i think too... it's not racism to criticize the black thug culture, it's the opposite. Sometimes critics are more important than laudation... we don't need ignorant people, may them be black, white, yellow...

 

Its not.

 

I should remind you again that the majority of right wing dingbats you see on forums like this do NOT represent your average white American. They are essentially just loud, outspoken clowns, who give us decent white people a bad name. Thankfully, the wretched social conservative nonsense that they hold so dear is being thoroughly rejected by a more diverse America, and there's nothing they can do about it. It probably explains why they are so damn bitter.

 

I agree!!

And I THOUGHT I proof-read what I meant, but failed to include an important word. It should have read as the following:

 

Another aspect to consider is that some of these people just like the look, nothing more.

Just because they look like something doesn't mean they are that something.

For example, professional female impersonators, like Ru Paul.

Just saying.

But otherwise, yeah, it's a pretty crap sub culture within a culture.

 

I do not think it actually is racist to hate the thug culture. But, its perceived that way by the youths inclined to gangs and the like.

Let me explain. I look back on my own background and am thankful for the parents who led by example of hard work and for teachers who were not intimidated, who disciplined me both in a physical sense and in a mental sense. I think it is an outcome of puberty that males of all races become cocky. We start to see the emergence of physical prowess and the ego kicks in, both in a physical and a mental sense. Teens think they are "all that", and always have I guess. Teachers fearlessly crushed my ego as a teenager. I resented them at the time, and found solace in my group of friends who did likewise. We even resorted to pranks and vandalism. I was also fearful of hurting my parents by bringing home a bad note or bad grades. But, those moments of humility and sometimes physical pain also taught me that I really wasn't all that. That I was really a goof, not nearly as bright or strong as my inner self thought.

I think it must be difficult to be a white teacher of black teens these days. It too easy for teens to perceive harsh words as a racial, not personal insult. But, without that humility, which usually needs to be imposed, the ego grows without limit. That is a bad thing, as smugness blocks learning. Our culture seems to have adopted the idea that we are all good inside. This is totally at odds with centuries of Christian philosophy that our human nature is inherently corrupt. Riots and looting show that that the human species is indeed inherently corrupt and tending toward evil.

 

Liberals use poverty as a get out of jail free card to justify crime. See I can do that too.

 

I haven't read every page of this thread but I think "black thug" culture is inaccurate.

It is black, white, latino, asian, etc...

The common denominator is that it is a "urban" street culture.

It isn't just for the poor anymore either. The number of a white middle class kids participating would surprise you. These idiots don't even have anything to be angry about.

Hip-hop does play a part in glamorizing it though not all hip-hop is violent.

 

You are going too far back for the purpose of this conversation.

Internal reports by the RNC have themselves concluded the GOP needs to be much more inclusive since the numbers of any other group other than White Men and even much less than a few years ago White Women are DISMAL!!

The RNC reports that for the GOP to once again have any chance at all of winning back the Presidency within the next 16 years...the GOP must DUMP....RIGHT WING EXTREMIST GROUPS....especially Highly Religious anti-abortion, anti-birth control, anti-Morning After and Plan B...anti-minority and anti-atheist or agnostic groups.

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