Holocaust families criticise Israel over Gaza

they are called "military bases".

 

Yep, and be sitting targets for the IDF...From their perspective, it clearly makes sense....NOT.

 

look man, Hamas can operate from open areas that have few if any people, or they can operate inside densely populated areas...which is a war crime.

but don't you DARE choose to operate inside tight urban areas and then cry and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) to CNN and BBC when civilians get killed, as you share responsibility for it.

 

Okay, so Hamas doesn't have an army, but they should all group up anyway in a well-designated spot where the IDF could unleash hell on them? Beside, the spots you saw are hardly "un-occupied". There are millions of people, most of them refugees from land Israel has stolen in there.

Are you responsible for strategy in your own little brownshirt club? I sure hope so.

PS; CNN and the other only seem to the left to you because they're beside Fox, which is far-right. From anywhere else in the world, they are right-leaning media outlets.

 

Nope, the ultimate responsibility for the deaths of the victims of illegal invasion, the targeted bombing of civilian infrastructure and children playing football on a beach, lies with the perpetrators.

 

Yes, and they are located in Kiriya, central Tel Aviv, surrounded by a hospital, blocks of flats, shopping centres and offices.

 

Israel launches military strikes from their bases deep inside Israeli cities and towns?

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who told you that? someone lied to you, bro.

 

Sooo, if some Islamists/Arabs/Palestinians/bad guys decide to target it, and it caused, say, the hospital to be demolished, that would be just like if the Israelis demolished it themselves, isn't it?

 

Here's the Guardian article I got it from.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...tary-bases-guerrilla-war-civilians-israel-idf

It says nothing about Israel launching military strikes from Israel and I never made such a claim so that's a straw man point you made. In any case, that does not detract from the validity of the point. Incidentally, the same writer posits that, contrary to your assertion, Hamas fighters have nowhere else to go.

 

I'd love to see an IDF center of command & control, in the middle of an Israeli neighborhood. Let me know when you find one.

 

any examination of a map shows Hamas has lots of places to go, where they would not endanger civilians.

...if they actually cared about civilians, which they clearly do not.

 

Ok, Guardian journalists haven't got access to maps and are just stupid.

 

Ive seen the maps. I saw the No Go zone.

it leaves lots of open areas in the Gaza Strip.

....if one wants to avoid civilian casualties, which Hamas clearly does not.

They love pictures and video of dead Gaza children, makes great BBC news.

 

Of course the Israeli slaughter of pregnant women and children is a PR victory for Hamas. As far as the claim of them having no option other than to fire from one of the most densely populated places on the planet is concerned, I'll choose to believe the Guardian. In any case, like I said, it makes absolutely no logical sense for them to be sitting ducks.

 

Hamas can choose to turn their pregnant women and lolly-pop licking children into casualties of war, or they can fight in a way that minimizes civilian casualties.

Its their choice. Either way they will be beaten, the only question is how many civilians will die in the process.

 

What this really shows is that the false propaganda calling Israel defending itself from that naked warmongering aggression of the Islamo's in Gaza as being a genocide is beyond preposterous.

 

Israel's actions in Gaza may be harsh and disproportionate.

but an act of genocide? pleaseeeeeeee...

such hyperbole is just laughable.

 

Israel has a right to defend itself against Hamas rockets.

but I do condemn their attacks upon civilian infrastructure that are unrelated to Hamas attacks.

 

Glad you are finally giving in to some rationale.

Israel does not genocides the Palestinians -yet (Like in 1937's Germany, this option is on the table), both their deaths sure doesn't bother them. However, one thing is sure; They want them gone, or reduced to non-existance, actively. They want the land - the land God gave to Them. They don't want the unkosher goyim that live on it - the simple thought of it churns their stomachs.

 

Well, increasingly liberal opinion, most notably galvanized in the following blog piece, suggests he has a point:

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/07/werritys-chum-gould-cheers-on-gaza-genocide/

 

Israel today agreed to reduce the land cargo restrictions, increase Gaza's fishing area to 6 miles from 3 miles, and other reductions in the embargo.

that's some fascinating attempt at genocide.


meanwhile in Rwanda, 800,000 civilians civilians were murdered in 4 months.

now THAT'S a genocide!!!!!

 

Israel's latest decision is a tactical one intended as a delaying mechanism.MOD EDIT>>>RULE3/FLAME BAIT<<<. I know it's hard to retreat from entrenched positions which is why I applaud you for acknowledging Israeli criminality, even though it takes a certain 'push' for you to do so. You are, of course, correct to point out the Rwanda Genocide.

In terms of Gaza, this is what former UK ambassador, Craig Murray. a liberal democrat, said:

"I have no hesitation whatsoever in stating that what is happening in Gaza is a part of a continuing process of deliberate genocide of the Palestinian people by the Israelis. When I have previously stated this, some commenters have taken issue with the word genocide. I see no other word that fits.

This chilling article by Martin Sherman, Head of the Israeli Institute of Strategic Studies, calling for Gaza to be ethnically cleansed of all Palestinians, should open the eyes of some of those who refuse to see that Israel is no longer a morally defensible entity. The 3,600 Facebook shares of this evil are evidence of how the madness of fascism has overtaken the citizens of Israel."

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/07/werritys-chum-gould-cheers-on-gaza-genocide/

This is the article by Sherman, Murray is referring to:

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Into-the-fray-Why-Gaza-must-go-368862

 

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next they will accuse Quebec's laws that emphasize French culture & language, as anti-Anglo genocide.

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let us know when Palestine reverses its policy of executing anyone who sells land to a Jew.

 

"Next they will accuse..".... Ok, so you have no cogent response. Fair enough.

 

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