Christians Murdering Muslims

Seriously? You don't believe an atheist can't believe in something like bad luck or karma?

 

No true scotsman anybody?

Well, as I have told you before that I know two atheists (people who actively deny the existence of God), who regularly get out their Tarot-Cards. And I know many more who get the creeps from the number 13, broken mirrors, graveyards … .
You may of course want to deny that these guys are ‘true’ atheists. But IMHO that would be just as silly as it would be silly, if I denied that Prunepicker and Co. are ‘true’ Christians.

So I’ve noticed.

 

I doubt the Bolsheviks wanted to populate the Siberian plains with the clergy they murdered.

But I hand it to you, that the ulterior motives for the oppression of the church were probably more of a political than a religious/ideological nature. It would be simply naïve to not assume the same for the atrocities committed in the name of religion. All you need to do to check this assumption is to have a halfway unbiased and realistic look on history.

 

that's not what I said. I said I don't know any who do. I know quite a few superstitious people who don't subscribe to formal religions, though. you might call them atheists because they don't dig your preferred god, but I view them the same way I view religious people. in the same way that all omnivores sometimes eat meat, even though their choice of meat might be different. I'm a vegan, when it comes to hocus pocus and the supernatural

 

that would be that kindness and civility you claim to use at all times, no doubt.

 

When did I ever claim that I'm always kind and civil?

Quite obviously I am not. I try though. Sometimes it doesn't work

 

my apologies ... I had two dogs simultaneously trying to climb on my lap due to a thunderstorm when I replied. thought you were that #$#$#$, PP.

of course you'd never claim such a thing ... after all, you're relatively honest by comparison to some of these eggs

 

You are a very foolish thinker here, since Theocracies like Christianity or Islam always attack heretics the same way Traitors are treated in a democracy.

The FBI is what the Inquisition was during the Christian Theocracy.
Once you are out of the seven kinds of political systems, you can call the old one evil for arresting you for rebellion.
But they all do the same thing.

 

You mis-spelled "tolerant secular societies".

 

I have no doubt they selected Russian Orthadox Christian Leaders and Communities to be shipped off....but this was on so large a scale....it went far beyond just killing Christians.

Stalin wanted it to work...he didn't want it to fail.

AboveAlpha

 

Maybe Popes and Princes throughout history wanted it to work rather than fail, too. Maybe the atrocities they committed had no more to do with religion as such than Stalin’s atrocities had to do with atheism, let alone communism, as such.

Political power-Play may be used with the best intentions but it almost always soils white vests.
When you take a closer look at supposed religious wars, you’ll almost always find political, ethnic and monetary conflicts at their root. In all likelihood the Protestant Princes and Kings in the 30 years war cared no more for finer theological arguments than their Catholic counterparts did. I reckon the same holds true for the Muslim leaders in the “New Arab Cold War” that we are currently seeing emerging. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/26/w...cretly-carried-out-libya-airstrikes.html?_r=0

The dangerous thing of just viewing such wars as religiously motivated is not just that it unduly slanders religion. It's that the real reasons are overlooked rather than analyzed for conflict resolution, and thus can be endlessly repeated.

 

Athesism...while taken to extremes was no different from the Crusades and Conquests of Christian Rome.

I am AGNOSTIC....know why?

AboveAlpha

 

Feel better now? I notice you left out the 100,000,000 victims of atheistic Communism within living memory but instead reached back centuries for a comparatively trivial number of victims of Christians who acted against Christ's teachings, as if that's supposed to prove something. The Crusades were a legitimate counter offensive against Muslim jihad, it was meant to free Christians in the Holy Land, the jihad was meant to enslave 'infidels', and over a million Christians were taken out of Europe during that time as slaves. As far as Bush, learn the difference between lies and bad intel. Unlike Obamacare for instance, the decision to go into Iraq was bipartisan and had the support of the American people.

 

By the Vikings?