Fox Changes Meaning Of "Stand Down" Order To Keep The Benghazi Hoax Alive

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The phrase "stand down" does not have one specific meaning. The phrases' meaning is dictated by the situation, and how the phrase is used. In many cases, the phrases "stand down" and "remain in place" are in fact interchangeable. If someone is inappropriately arguing with a higher ranking individual with others hearing, the higher ranking individual will tell the arguer to "stand down". That does not mean, "go back to what you are doing, because we are not deploying." It simply means, "stop arguing." So, when the reaction force was prepared and ready to deploy five minutes after the initial call for help was received, they were told to hang tight. "Hang tight" is another phrase meaning "standby" and "remain in place." Fifteen minutes after the reactionary force was ready, the head of the force contacted Bob to remind him that they were still waiting for a "go order". Bob told him to "stand down". This means, stop arguing with me on an open channel. After another delay, the team deployed without a go order.

Here is why this is important. The Administration claimed that there was no order to delay the reactionary force. The Station Chief claimed that the delay was to secure more weapons and personnel for the reactionary force, but he has refused to say whether the delay was ordered by Washington. It is possible that the Station Chief personally made the decision for the delay the response. It would not be the first time that a local commander erred on the side of caution, and it cost lives. Nut there are a couple of facts that needs to be taken into consideration. The first is that the reaction force was ready to deploy in five minutes. This tells me that the local commander had trained the reactionary force for just such a scenario. They were well trained and rehearsed. As a standard rule, a commander that plans and trains for a specific course of action does not interject unplanned variables into the situation by delaying the deployment. Especially to acquire additional weapons and personnel that had not trained with the reaction force. Another fact is that Washington stuck by their claim of no delay even after they conducted their own internal investigation. This administration has no problem throwing underlings under the bus. So, why not blame the delay on the local Station Chief instead of attempting to hide the delay? The third point is that the administration obstructed the Congressional investigation by forcing the onsite witnesses to remain silent for two years.

 

And this thread demonstrates why Fox will not "stand down" on benghazi.

Considering a miniscule number of americans have actually read the various reports from congressional investigations, the constant focus on unsubstantiated accusations (starting with Mitt having a press confrence to blame obama, while the attack was still going on, although he didn't that) by various FOX news talking heads is partisan propaganda at its finest. FOX is simply the best creator and shaper of opinion in the media universe.

I guess there are some americans that believe their soldiers (in this particular case, CIA security guards) to be invincible and cannot be ambushed and slaughtered exactly like every other soldier on the planet can.

Those investigations and the detailed timelines that came out of them ALL concluded that there was no "stand down" order.

As to playing the semantics game:

stand-down
noun
a period of relaxation after a state of alert.

 

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you had the CIA contractors in the CIA compound there in Benghazi that was ready to go to the Embassy annex 5 minutes after they found out they was under attack not once but three times they was told to stand down they went anyways 30 minutes later disobeying that order

then you have the special forces troops in Tripoli that wanted to fly to Benghazi they was told to remain in place which gave the same result as stand down don't go and help

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More of MSNBC's integrity?

MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Gleefully Admits To Using Edited Video To Smear GOP

MSNBC’s propensity to selectively edit video to smear conservatives has reached a new low. Speaking on her self-titled show on February 21, host Rachel Maddow openly admitted to playing edited footage of Senator John McCain to smear the Arizona Republican.

Speaking last week, Maddow aired footage of McCain addressing a constituent whose son was killed last year at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, who spoke to Senator McCain about her belief that “These assault weapons allow a shooter to fire many rounds without having to reload. These weapons do not belong on our streets.” [See video after jump. MP3 audio here.]

Maddow then played McCain’s edited comments, which show him saying, “I can tell you right now you need some straight talk. That assault weapons ban will not pass the congress of the United States.”

Maddow then ridiculously admits there is editing with the clip she played, but that doesn’t stop her from slamming McCain:

Obviously, there was an edit between the end of the woman's question and the part where John McCain sneers the straight talk line at her. So maybe that edit was cut in a way that’s not fair to John McCain.

Had Maddow felt the need to play the complete clip, she would have seen Senator McCain expressing his condolences and sadness for those victims who died in Aurora, Colorado, as well as other tragic shootings. However, being a fair, albeit opinionated journalist, is not Maddow's aim:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2991763/posts

 

Oh hey, did you watch the eletion on Fox?

 

I listened to the people that were on the ground during an interview and they specifically stated they were told to 'stand down'. MOD EDIT - Off Topic

 

Please stick to the topic at hand, and leave the baiting comments at the door

 

Lame ,truly Lame OP. Nearing the lameness of Slick Willy Clinton saying
" It depends on what the meaning of the word " is " is. "

 

This is so dynamic and juvenile.Because it cuts to the chase.
The first week after the Benghazi attack there was much talk from
Military experts as to whether there was a " Stand Down " order given.
And whether it originated from the White House.
Hellfire we can't even get confirmation as to WHERE Obama was
exactly on the fatal night in question.Was Obama even IN the Situation Room.
Like supposedly he was during the entire Bin Laden Raid where we saw
Obama sitting down hunched over in anticipation as other white house
staffers including Hillary sat agape watching the Live Feed,
Was No Live Feed.That was a Lie.Because that meant there would have been
proof as to what the Raid entailed.The Situation room photo making the
rounds was also staged.
Where WAS Obama,that fatal night,of September 11.
No one in the media has even tried to ask Obama that question.
Now ... How is that possible.Without a State-Run media.
I think O'Reilly was set to ask Obama about that fatal night and where he
was during his Super Bowl halftime interview.
But Obama was stalling with overly rambling answers to run out the time clock.
O'Reilly was limited to how long he could interview Obama.

 

I didn't see the whole interview with these three gentlemen, but I got the impression they were never interviewed before. Can anyone confirm that?

 

Benghazi and our lack of a response, will be a black eye upon Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama. The Democrats have worked hard to try for damage control. The fact remains that these two were in charge. Hillary Clinton ran an ad when campaigning against Barack Obama with a phone ringing for help at 3 AM. Her question was who do you want answering that call. When the call came, no one answered and an ambassador died.

To make matters worse, even after the attacks we didn't secure this consulate. CNN found the journal of Ambassador Steven on the floor of the largely unsecured mission. Many who have served, like myself question how we could have no response to an attack that lasted so long. At a minimum, we could have rousted any bar in Naples, headquarters of the 6th Fleet, gathered a planeload of marines flew them to Benghazi Airport in about an hour, then driven to the consulate in 20 minutes… Then shown the world what the USA does when you bring an attack against our people. But we didn't. We sat on our hands. We watched it unfold on the video feed from a drone.

"What difference does it make?" If anyone on the left thinks this is going to go away, they really don't have a clue. This is going to be in television commercials, ad campaigns and debate questions. If the DNC settles on Hillary to be their candidate, this will be rehashed time and time again. Personally, I believe that Hillary is not going to run. I believe she'll cite age and health as reasons to not run, then this will fade away. Benghazi will just be another mistake that was made in our history.

The reason we have so many hearings is that we just can't seem to get that transparency that we were promised. No one trusts this administration to tell the truth. Is it any wonder? Oops, my hard drive crashed.

 

From what I heard, they had not been.

 

Fox was voted more factual than MSNBC by the American public.

Get your FACTS straight.

 

Why do you post on things you know nothing about? How much do they pay you to post this propaganda?

John Tiegen, one of the security personnel at Benghazi, said:

"It had probably been 15 minutes I think, and … I just said, ‘Hey, you know, we gotta-- we need to get over there, we're losing the initiative. And Bob just looks straight at me and said, ‘Stand down, you need to wait."

A second security officer, Kris Paronto, said he was told to "stand down" twice.

The security team finally left on their own despite the "stand down" order.

At this point, after so many false posts, you should be banned.

 

Makes you wonder why........

 

It dont matter, the left has its narrative to protect, defend and apologize for the president at any and all costs. Including the cost of lives on the ground anywhere in the world.

 

Once again Fox News just inflames the conspiracy nuts.

 

Well from what I hadn't heard they had been.

 

Again ... Without Fox News this Country would already Bee a banana republic.

 

stand–down noun \ˈstan(d)-ˌdau̇n\

:a relaxation of status of a military unit or force from an alert or operational posture

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stand-down

 

Before posting, learn the facts. The 3 guys that were interviewed - that's 3 of the security response team in Benghazi - said they were told to "stand down" multiple times. They finally disregarded the stand down order, and left for the compound on their own.

 

Three CIA security personal are now Fox nuts? Interesting do tell.

 

The CIA operative said he was told to "STAND DOWN", not by FOX.

ANOTHER THREAD TITLE LIE.

 

"Oh" I was hoping you would go here.

Lets play a little game.

Lets each name one thing at a time that we think

the others news source lied about and we will debate it.

I will start with msnbc doctoring the George Zimmerman

911 tape to fit their agenda.

 

Why is that every post cpicture makes doesn't match the title? And this is allowed?