God will accept , embrace and love homosexuals as his own creation .

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  1. raymondo

    raymondo Banned

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    And the God Christians worship is one who embraces even so called sinners .
    In a Universe of love , all creatures are God's own creation and he has infinite love for them because they came from God and will return whence they came .
    And let all those who pass judgement on any of his creatures , fear the wrath of God , whose understanding and forgiveness are infinite.
    For those that pass judgement on others , themselves risk an eternal judgement of their fitness for the Kingdom of Heaven .
     
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    Catenaccio Banned

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    But a Christian God doesn't exist.
     
  3. raymondo

    raymondo Banned

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    We know that . But the Troglodytes can't see in the dark .
     
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    They can see they just have their eyes closed.
     
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    What about a thief or a murderer or a pedophile, is he embraced by God?
     
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    all creatures are God's own creation and he has infinite love for them because they came from God and will return whence they came + risk an eternal judgement of their fitness for the Kingdom of Heaven = ?


    fear the wrath of God + forgiveness are infinite. = ?
     
  7. raymondo

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    Yes .
    And from academic interest go and see what hundreds of people report who are hypnotically regressed and asked to talk about their after death experiences from a previous life .
    Interesting , how the same picture is repeated without exception.
    I am not asking you to do anything, but just widen your approach , look , listen and think .
    It doesn't follow that I am a convert and believer .
    But I am saying that if you want something that rests on more than Blind Faith and offers an infinitely better explanation of matters , then go and do some research .
     
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    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    it don't make sense to me..how can you be evil and the worst piece of crap on the face of the earth and still be forgiven..sorry but it's not my nature..
    if some scum bag raped my daughter and then murdered her there would be no forgiveness from me..your god talk is BS because if you really believed in his forgiveness there would be no supposed hell..
     
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    A very understandable feeling and one held by most people , if not nearly all .
    Of course the Jesus followers have no sensible response and the line they adopt is very much an insult to thinking people .
    However , take up my advice in my previous post ( 7 ) and you will see a far better and much more likely explanation .
     
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    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    well spoken words ray..
    now that I have reread post 7 I see where you are coming from..
    ya know I think we all ask these questions daily..to widen our horizons, look , think and listen..what could of I've done better, why me, how come I'm so stupid and didn't see something coming..WTF is the meaning of life and why are we all here??..
    well, after much thought and research over the years what ever the truth is it's way over my head and I'm content with being a clueless idiot..it ain't going to change a thing when I turn to dust and if I do live on it will be one filled with joy..
     
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    God can do what he wants.

    That doesn't mean society has to do what he does.
     
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    That is not supported in the Bible. Satan is very clever and is a deceiver and deceives those who seek for truth outside the Bible.
     
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    Your comment seems to line up with what the Being of Light of NDE fame is telling people!


    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a11
     
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    Technically no, because God doesn't exist.

    But supposing he did, then yes, because God put him here for a purpose. If God was going to send him to hell he wouldn't have created him in the first place.
     
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    Good point, a powerful case can be presented for eventual universal salvation.

    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a04h
     
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    Would it be considered a mental disorder by the American Psychiatric Association for a person to be obsessively arguing against the existence of someone or something he firmly believes does not exist? (Read that again.)
     
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    All are embraced by Jesus ... all one needs to is call his name at the end of days and all will be forgotten. Just have "Faith". That's all you need for salvation.
     
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    And you know that how?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Of course He loves those with same-sex feelings, He would say to a repentant gay the same thing He said to the woman caught in adultery, "Go, and sin no more."
     
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    Who is God? Do I need to find acceptance and embrace with an organised criminal you mean?
     
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    So one does not need to obey just believe in Jesus, is that it?
     
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    Can I have a hot dog with your religious dogma?
     
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    And so you believe, likely due to strong religious indoctrination by trusted adults when you were a child coupled with historical and current peer pressure.

    And, by the way, please define "faith".*


    * I did not capitalize the word "faith" like you did because it is a common noun, not a proper noun.
     
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    Speaking of Jebus, nice resurrection on this thread! Just say forgive me Lord and you can do whatever the hell you want!
     
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    According to the "Sola Fide" - salvation by faith alone - doctrine. Yes.

    This salvation formulation is not universal in Christianity. Protestant denominations accept "Sola Fide" but, the majority of Christianity (Catholic and Orthodox) do not.

    It is a bit bizarre that there are actually two different and contradictory salvation formulations within Christianity.

    Which to choose ? How to get passage through pearly gates ?
     
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    You believe certain religious dogma. Yet you pretend to know (posing as a gnostic theist) and have the audacity and the compulsion to proselytize your beliefs. Certainly, you have a right to do so. However, your claims are hollow, empty and vacuous. Put another way, you childhood religious indoctrination by trusted adults is apparent.
     

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