Obama Just Got Some Bad News Straight from the U.S. Military

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  1. Private Citizen

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    Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

    "Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

    It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

    The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’
     
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    You will have to follow the codes to get the actual laws. It's pretty easy. When I come across things like "public law page 8 section 95a " I copy and paste it to Google search engine and click on Cornell law website or any other site that keeps records. They are making it harder to get to the information. Six months ago when I started a thread about taxes I was able to find everything easily, I can only find them now with the copy and paste method. They are regulating information. If you can not quote exact words then you will not find it, unless it poses no threat to the establishment.
     
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    The entire 82nd Airborn are not being sent in. Certain elements are being sent in to provide security for advisers and helping train Iraqi forces. They are not being sent for combat operations.
     
  5. Tahuyaman

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    Until they are.
     
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    Didn't the previous president proudly proclaim the he was "the decider"? Didn't he also proclaim (to you, me, and the world) that he got his marching orders from "higher up"?
     
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    as a retired military officer, I can say that I liked some of the CINCs I worked under and I didn't like others. I knew that my OPINION as to their leadership meant absolutely zero in terms of how those men did their jobs. I am quite sure that Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush OR Clinton gave a rat's rectum about my opinion of their administration. It was my job to well and faithfully execute the orders of the CINC and those officers appointed under him. End of story.
     
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    I think you are correct in that matter. At best, the president shows up for correspondents' dinners. We're way beyond the president making any decisions more difficult than figuring out which turkey to spare.
     
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    This is amazing, hopefully impeachment will follow soon.
     
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    on what grounds, Tom? What high crimes and misdemeanors has he committed? Did he have his henchmen go try to bug the RNC and then lie about it when he got caught? Did he lie about having sex with an intern?
     
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    For ruining the US Economy and Spying on Americans
     
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    so every president that ruins the American economy should be impeached? I bet you wouldn't have said that about Herbert Hoover would you? And you don't think that Dubya spied on you? Were you calling for HIS impeachment? I guess not. And that fact that both of them had two things in common that Obama does not share had nothing to do with it, did it?
     
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    More Tunnel Vision. For the all volunteer army: For many of the war-weary troops who deployed to combat zones over and over again for 13 years, the end of an era of war in Iraq and Afghanistan is good news. For the grunts that specifically joined to go to war it bad news.

    If this were still a draft situation, we would all be singing glory hallelujah! No more war. But letting those poor bastards that still can't find jobs upon return fight your wars.

    http://www.militarytimes.com/longform/military/2014/12/07/americas-military-a-force-adrift/18596571/
     
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    I don't think he was referring to the treasury secretary.
     
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    This isn't exactly surprising. Bush Jr was no saint but you will be hard pressed to find a man or woman in uniform who will tell you that they felt safer fighting under Obama than they did fighting under Bush Jr.

    I've said this plenty of times and I'll say it again. Neither of our political parties are perfect, but if I'm going to be sent to war I always want a Republican Commander in Chief to be in charge of me. And it seems like I'm nowhere near alone in my thinking on this issue.
     
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    As you pointed out, he's always had a low approval with the military. That's because liberals are rare in the military. For a plethora of reasons, liberals are uncommon in the military.

    Consider Obama's overall approval drop, and it's not much more than his approval drop with the military.
     
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    Yeah, Bush's popularity with the military was just amazing. Even today when I talk to people who WANT to join the military, it's surprising how often they say they love Bush.
     
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    Thats because those who have served under both Bush and Obama know the differences between the two. Its no secret that Republicans hold the military in a higher regard than Democrats. The extreme changes in the ROE's between the two shows that. If we step out of the box I do honestly understand why Obama has such extreme ROE's, its part of a larger plan to actually gain the trust of the nations with whom we are at war. However, in the eyes of a service member on the ground we want to know that our lives matter more to our government than ANYTHING ELSE in the world when we are at war. ROE be damned.

    Republicans give the troops that confidence, Democrats usually do not.

    Ask any veteran that question and you will almost always get the same answer. It was a MUCH different war under Bush than it is under Obama. And if given a choice the majority of troops would rather fight under a Republican CIC than a Democratic one. Republicans say "win the war", Democrat's say "win the war but....". We don't like having our hands tied behind our backs and we honestly don't give a damn about the "bigger picture" and the reasons WHY our hands are tied when we are fighting for our lives.

    In the grand scheme of things that may be the wrong answer. But to someone with bullets flying by their head that's the only answer that is acceptable. Morality be damned, OUR lives matter more than THEIR's do, period. And by "theirs" I mean ANYBODY else who isn't an American or an American ally.
     
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    That's not what that statute says.
     

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