Transgender teen: 'My death needs to mean something'

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...der-teen-death-needs-mean-something/21044407/

HYPERLINK has the story but all details are not net out. Much is speculation

Alcorn's mother, Carla Wood Alcorn, wrote on Facebook Sunday, "My sweet 16-year-old son, Joshua Ryan Alcorn, went home to Heaven this morning. He was out for an early morning walk and was hit by a truck. Thank you for the messages and kindness and concern you have sent our way. Please continue to keep us in your prayers." The post has since been taken down.

there is much tragedy to this story

a parent lost her son

more tragic is the LGBT, QRSTUVWXYZ community is now defaming the mom

Once again we see a boy who needed help in coming to grips that he is a boy and not to be told that it's ok to think otherwise. And again, another suicide; a wasted life

When can we start correctly treating these people who are in need of serious psychiatric help? No gender change surgery or BS shower and bathroom rules can fix what is wrong in their head.

The mom could have used help from society in general in supporting her that the right thing is to get her son to stop the fantasy and act like the male that he was. Sadly, she lost her son. Sadly, the son for some reason was misled that his fantasy was acceptable

Stories like this should open our eyes to the fact that the touchy-feely liberal methods do not work.

what a tragic waste of a fine young man

 

You know, I am not ok with parents dressing their adolescent children as the opposite gender and treating them as such. In many ways I see that as almost brainwashing because really those kids do not know what they are yet. BUT at around puberty they really do start identifying with gender and sexuality. At that point they have seen a little bit of the world and are starting to understand human sexuality. At that point if a person wants to dress, act, or even change their gender who am I to say they are wrong? This is a free country and if someone wants to say they are a girl and dress as a girl so be it. It does not hurt me none.

Now the problem we do have is that children, even older ones are cruel creatures at the best of times. The taunting, bullying, and even violence can get out of hand too the point if it was done in the adult world a person would be breaking the law. Add to that all those new hormones and really no experience with such powerful negative emotions you have a recipe for disaster. We as parents and adults often fail to teach our children the common decency it takes not to belittle and harm children and young adults that are different from them.

Being different should not be a crime deserving of death.

 

Well, I think she didn't fully come to terms with what she was. A girl born in a boy's body. It's its own identity. She might have changed her mind given time.

By committing suicide she missed the option to change her life when she grew out of being a minor and became an adult.

Although I can see that if she wanted to avoid certain body changes she may only have the opportunity before reaching the end of puberty, something that requires parental approval.

That said, I also see where someone might regret their decision later in life only after their life is messed up and reversal is difficult to impossible. Why do it early if you'll regret it later?

 

A more accurate description is a boy whose gender identity developed contrary to his biological sex.

 

Absolutely. There'll be conservatives who'll disagree with..

 

That's because you've been had the evangelists for gender confusion. What happened was that he failed to completely abandon himself to the delusion of his girlhood.

 

Sex and gender are the same thing, by definition. When people identifyy themselves by "he" or "she" they are basing that off of their biological sex.

 

Gender | Wikipedia.org

 

How stupid.. what does this have to do with liberals? Are you really so crass that you want to make politics over this kid's death... Now THAT is sick.

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How stupid.. what does this have to do with liberals? Are you really so crass that you want to make politics over this kid's death... Now THAT is sick.

 

why did you leave out the important part of the story?
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...der-teen-death-needs-mean-something/21044407/

 

May her soul rest in peace. May whatever god she believe in look after her soul.

 

I feel sorry that he thought his only choice was to end his life. But what about the person driving the truck? That driver will have to live with knowledge that they killed someone. It doesn't matter that they couldn't do anything about it. and I guarantee that the driver did everything they could to avoid it. Could you sleep knowing that? I've been a trucker for nearly 25 years, and I couldn't.

 

no i could not

I felt like crap when i hit a squirrel

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he was a boy. A mom lost her son.

IMO, we as society are failing these delusional people by patronizing them doing things like calling a boy a she, vs getting them the help they need. No dick removal would ever cure his mental issue.

 

so sad, wish people could just accept people for who they are rather then demanding they change to suit you

 

What an incredible act of selfishness and narcissism. HE decides to screw up some poor truck drivers life just so he can commit a selfish act. The driver is going to be haunted by this for the rest of his life. Since I don't believe in hell per say I can only hope that whatever bullying HE received "BOOOHOOO!" was merciless and horrible. Suicide in general is the cowards way out with a few exceptions like terminal cancer etc, but this is just beyond selfish. He didn't even have the guts to just take his own life he had to pull some clueless down with her.

Statistically speaking there are probably at least a few dozen people on this forum that had abusive parents and many people had a (*)(*)(*)(*)ty high school experience. They are still here and for the most part they overcame and obstacles. Your history doesn't define you, its what you do going forward that does.

 

Big words from someone not standing in the middle of their own personal hell. This kid did not understand how to deal with these powerful emotions and they won. For an adult I can agree with some of your words, but children are ill equipped for it and we lose far to many. What he did was wrong but your lack of empathy tells us a lot about you as well. I dont know who to feel more sorry for.

 

You don't seem to realize the hypocrisy in claiming sympathy for her when your way of thinking is exactly the reason that she's dead.

 

There is a difference between being pompous and being superior. I don't go around feeling sorry for someone for being a selfish, attention whore who doesn't care if they ruin someone else's life. I am better than you.

 

Yep, somebody advocating the death penalty for suicide. Only from conservatives.

 

One of my new year's resolutions is to try to be better about reaching out to people who are suffering. Life is hard enough for all of us as it is. Nobody should have to struggle alone.

I am very sorry this happened. Suicide is tragic, period.




......unless it's Hitler, I guess. Kinda hard to feel bad about that one.

 

Actually it's your (can I call it religious right wing?) attitude that shames them into throwing them in front of a truck. It is your kind, not what you call "liberal" who causes these problems. If you didn't (*)(*)(*)(*) with them their whole lives and tell them how horrible they are, such things would not happen.

 

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Sorry, I thought you were the first person that said I advocated the death penalty for people who commit suicide. That person is a moron and incapable of even basic reading comprehension.

Yes there is a reason to hope that stupid kid suffered. That kid acted in a selfish and despicable manner. He acted out of pure narcissism. Had he killed himself via pills or any method that didn't involve an innocent bystander then I might have more sympathy. But by turning a truck driver who was just doing his job into a killer (he will always question whether or not he could have done something differently to avoid running the kid over no matter what) his life is forever changed. Everyone but a couple posters on this thread is boohooing the stupid attention whore when the REAL victim is the truck driver who didn't deserve this. Once again, the kid is a selfish, narcissistic attention whore who could bother to put the effort that every other transgendered person does and instead of just pushing through the crap that people give them..........like every other transgendered person does...........he decides he is going to force someone else to kill him and make a big spectacle about it. His last words were about how the world can learn from his selfish act. What exactly are we supposed to learn, that he was an insufferable selfish (*)(*)(*)(*)? Because that is the only thing I learned about him.

This is more about people feeling good by posting how sad they feel about some transgendered kids committing suicide because of being bullied. As if that attention whore deserves anymore sympathy than any other kid that kills themselves for any other reason. Do you guys get up in the morning a few minutes early to stretch and limber up so that you can pat yourselves on the back all day long for being enlightened and insufferable.

 

More than one person suffered that night. >>>MOD EDIT Filter Bypass Removed<<< That makes sense. Maybe if you tried to kill yourself you'd have some empathy, but that's doubtful.

 

I wouldn't kill myself because of some bullies. Nor would I force someone else to kill me. That makes me infinitely better than that turd. I will NOT have ANY sympathy for a despicable person who forces someone else to kill them just so they can "make a statement". You really don't care about the truck driver one bit. You obviously really don't care that that person is scarred for life and will never be the same. You only care about the self righteous, arrogant, self centered jackass.