Transgender teen: 'My death needs to mean something'

Ah yes, that deep conservative love. I must be on the right thread now.

 

explain why we should focus on one sick kid and not the rest? Libs love to pick out one thing and turn it into a century changing event...............and toss the rest out with the trash. Get off the high horse and deal with all the suicides or none at all.
the only thing this kid wanted was to use the girls bathroom and he was denied, That sure sounds like a good reason to off oneself. He had other serious issues than claiming to be transgendered.

 

I have experience with suicide in my personal life which is why I know for a fact how destructive it is. The kid is worthy of no more sympathy than a Wall Street broker who lost all his money and took a dive off of the roof. Suicide is inherently a selfish at. People that commit suicide for transient reasons leave behind huge gaping holes in the lives of their families and friends. This wasn't a case of a kid with bone cancer who had nothing to look forward to but an agonizingly slow and painful death. Most people would understand someone committing suicide over that........hell I might do it myself. I would NEVER kill myself because some people made fun me or didn't accept me for who I am or some other pathetic reason. I am not a selfish prick and I wouldn't want to put my family and friends through that crap precisely because I had to go through that crap. Maybe you should talk to someone else who lost someone close to them from suicide and get their opinion because I bet that it will be similar to mine.

And once again, there is no indication at all the he was suffering from any mental disorder. There is no mention of him seeing a psychiatrist or receiving any treatment which would have been in the article since it is relevant. None that was mentioned so you assumption that he was suffering from clinical depression is purely speculation and based on nothing but your own wishes. You are deliberately reading what you want to see because you so badly want this story to fit some preconceived agenda.

I deal with actual facts presented, not political agendas, ideaology, preconceived notions or any of that. I am superior because I don't let those things muddle my decisions.

 

I'm sorry for your loss.

You are right about the inherent selfishness of suicide, but this is why it is a mental health issue. It is not normal to be that selfish.

 

It was over ten years ago so I am well over it. I was, and probably to some degree still am, more angry than sad. There was no reason for it. The act left the rest of the family scratching their heads wondering if anyone could have done anything differently and that takes years to put behind you. It hurt them especially since most of the family was religious and suicide means eternal damnation (I was glad I was an atheist around that time) which put even more stress on them. Not only do you second guess yourself about missing signs because someone is dead but now you have to second guess whether or not you had any part in someone's soul being lost to hell for eternity. If I ever do become religious again..........I am go 100% full Buddhism with the reincarnation and second chances stuff.

Suicide in itself is not a mental disorder its just an act. It is often a result of mental disorders but not always. Since the story did not say anything about any diagnosis or treatment then the kid, to me at least is the same as any of the other transgendered people I have encountered. They were simply born in the wrong body and decided to transition to what they believe is the correct sex. Are they harrassed and bullied and did their families not accept them? I would imagine that in most cases that is true to some degree. I have literally only had one in depth discussion with one of them since its obviously not something you bring up as an ice breaker casually. She was not accepted by her family but she adapted and moved on. I assume its a similar story for the rest.

 

incorrect

nobody but the person who takes their own life is responsible

We lost a family member to suicide and the BS claims of diverting responsibility are unsupported

The BOY had psychological issues and telling him that he was a girl did not help, as is evident

 

people with mental disease need psychological help, not to be patronized and told that he is a she

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he was a boy

 

BINGO


as I've posted before, we too lost a family member to suicide

the blame, the finger pointing etc that ensued for years tore apart the family. It took a long time to realize that it was the fault of nobody else.

Statistics show that those choosing a homosexual or alternate sexual lifestyle have a much higher rate of suicide than heterosexuals. Those statistics scream that those folks need mental help, not special rules.

 

My guess your hate was the reason

No one chooses to be gay......stop (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lying about that. And the reason this statistic is true is because people like you treat them like garbage and worse. Families throw them away and there is no way for them to fully acknowledge their reality in many cases. Your hate is what kills these people and frankly you should be in prison for it. I am sorry if you chose to deny who you really are and pretend that being gay is a choice has made you so hateful but your continued barrage of hate needs to stop.

 

it is a choice and you have no proof that is it is anything else. You guys are taking one kids death and turning him into a martyr while ignoring or making fun of others that have lost family members to suicide. Ya'll carry on like this one death means more than any others. Bull(*)(*)(*)(*), and you call us heartless.
ya'll are sick in the head.
but this one, to the LGBT, is more important the others who have taken their own lives......................so let's make him a martyr and ignore the rest..........heartless, yeah, sure.

 

A group of people that are treated as second class citizens, are forced into lives of paranoia and hiding, and often lack supportive people in their lives because of bigotry or because they have to hide their suffering have higher rates of suicide and mental illness. But you know, it's being attracted to the same sex that causes all those.

You're really determined to ignore the fact that your worldview causes suicide.

Furthermore, you don't seem to understand what the word lifestyle means, because being attracted to the same sex isn't a damn lifestyle. Or what choose means, because nobody would willingly take on the suffering of being in the closet, the closet is hell itself.

 

they make the choice. Everyone who is an adult realizes that choices have consequence. Thanks for agreeing with us that it is a choice.

 

I can not imagine why, with the warm and loving arms extending to them by anti gay bigots in this country.

 

another that wants to use a martyr. What about all the other kids that commit suicide? They mean nothing to people who only want to spout off about being feeling sorry for someone who claims to be "different." How about the kids that kill themselves over FaceBook, or are bullied at school for being "chunky" or for dressing in 2nd hand clothes.....................bah, save your breath. ...............so frickin' shallow

 

Am I?

I learn so much about myself from folks who apparently know so little about me.

Whilst I appreciate the zeal you express over this child killing herself as it supports your rather ugly position on transsexuals, need you insult me because of the moral lapses in your posts?

 

Cut the crap. No one makes anyone kill themselves.

 

and what about the rest of those kids who commit suicide over other things....................naw, you're just martyring-up

 

Does repeating the word dick in reference to a child's genitals make your argument valid?

Two points here.

First , the child was subject to the Christian therapy that you laud. It appears to have failed.

Second, while I understand the need in your argument to refer to the genitals of children, the medical community disagrees with your assessment.

Why is it the anti gay, anti transgender crowd can not discuss things without talking about dicks? Do dicks wholly define your argument?

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Am I? Again, I thank you.

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My thoughts are crap?

 

True, because bigots have no shame. Just a never ending propensity to justify their moral and character failings with more nonsense.

 

high praise from a Liberal, thank you.
So what about all the other kids who take their lives? They mean nothing when they (gays) have a chance to further their cause by martyring one. You guys are so shallow, you make me look good

 

If people would stop poking their noses into other peoples sexuality we all would be better off. Keep your sexuality private like it is supposed to be.

 

No sir,

I want it to be a protected class, I want legislation with lawyers seeking lawsuit, I want schools to celebrate and teach, I want business in fear, I want religion on knees, I want parades and a national holiday, I want children legal right to self identify, I want parents in fear, I want marriage, I want divorce, I want federal funding based on my sexuality.

But most of all, society ignores me and is very self centered, this I do not want.

 

That's literally the opposite of what I just said. Logical thinking doesn't work that way, if you're going to make a snide remark you can't just contradict someone and expect it to carry some weight, it has to be possible for someone that isn't you to follow a logical train of thought to reach the same conclusion as you, and nobody can do that because that wasn't a logical train of thought.

I'm a smartass, but at least I lay it on thick enough that it's comprehensible.

Let me reiterate this: You have your naive, comfortable, straight little life. You don't understand how much being queer sucks because of people like you, and if you did it would be obvious that nobody would choose to be queer, therefore it's pretty damn obvious that the amount of people that would choose to be queer numbers around the same amount of people that would willingly blind themselves. But you're sheltered from that suffering and lack the empathy required to understand it without feeling it personally.

 

I am shameless.
They make the choice. All this kid wanted was to use the girls bathroom. He got his own special little bathroom, instead. And for that he kills himself? How much sympathy does he rate over all the other kids who kill themselves a s a result of internet bullying? Or teased in school for being overweight? How many?
So this one kid gets elevated to sainthood because he couldn't use the girls bathroom. Very shallow of you, indeed to ignore all the other problems these teens face and instead, you glorify this one because it is the only one that matters..................
I call bull(*)(*)(*)(*).................bah..libs......another reason I have absolutely no use for Libs.

 

maybe schools should have a gender neutral dress code, no gender brain washing....

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