Netanyahu steps up appeal to French Jews after attacks

I dont think Israel poulation contains a much higher percentage of dangerous Muslims..., I think UK and France do,

I also dont think UK is better than Israel for Jews that want to avoid anti-sematism comments or attacks, we do need to fight from time to time but that's better than hiding one's identity IMO,

Israel recent immigrants dont complain about security, they say they feel much safer in Israel, the problem is an economic one, but its not all about money.

 

Ill ignore the rants because that's not the issue of the thread, but Israel is just an option for them, not mandetory. Israelis are just fine without a huge wave of immigration from France or any other place.

 

Its their choice, the threat to them is not just a terror attack once in while but an everyday anti-semite/anti-Zionist slurs and attacks, that's according to an interview of some French Jews that immigrated a few years ago (3,000 in 2013, 7,000 in 2014, 10,000 expected in 2015 before these recent attacks in Paris).

I agree it will strain the economy a bit, already the real-estate rates went up by 2-3% due to increased immigration in several new projects, but we can take it, its for a good cause, its unthinkable we'll refuse protection from Jews.

 

In that case, get angry.....

 

Tell this to Israeli bureaucracy which doesn't allow Jews to return home.

 

Israel is a sovereign state and as such defines it's emigration rules. Just like any other state in the world.
If you don't qualify, you don't. That is all.

 

Israel is a sovereign state and as such defines its immigration rules.
Forget about your racist crap, they do not belong here.

 

Only most of the French Jews are Refugees from Muslim states in Africa. Very far from your 'white' picture.

 

You all are conveniently ignoring the bigger question, which is - does Israel have a right to exist as a theocratic state ? It's not a full fledged democracy. The entire nation is built upon a religious bent that believes the diaspora (assuming it's even 100% historically accurate) is justification for the world's Jews to own a piece of land they are not even genetically tied to.

The "right of return" presumes that the Jews of China, for example, wouldn't be immigrating to Israel, but would magically be returning to a nation they once were a part of. Yeah, right - these guys totally look like they're from the Middle East.

 

Are you complaining also about the multitude of "islamic" countries. How about Buthan? How about the Vatican?

 

We talked in length about that in another thread, this is not the place for it,

But generally speaking, Jewish comunitties from Asia and Africa (China,India, Ethopia) are as ancient as ME ones and their stories fit genetic studies (going throu the Balkans to India and China, banished from China and setteling in India), sure they mixed with local pop, so did every other Jewish comunitty in the world during 2,000 years but one can never marry enough to cancel his ancestors...., and if they kept the faith for so long I see nothing wrong in recognizing them. I think its a beautiful part of the Jewish story.

 

maenawhile the Islamic republics of Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan don't bother you. The Sharia-law dominated Saudi Arabia doesn't bother you.

a guy in Egypt was just convicted of "being an Atheist", but this doesn't bother you.

 

Yeah, but you don't see us giving billions to Islamic countries in welfare money, do you ? Why does the "Jewish" state get my free money ?

 

Israel is a recognized member of the United Nations, and has the right to establish whatever immigration policies it desires.

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Iraq and Afghanistan both get twice as much money as Israel does, every year.

first you complain that Jews aren't Semites so the term "anti-Semitism" is applied wrong, then you complain about Israel's Jewish status, then you complain about their immigration policies, now you complain about US aid to Israel? Sounds like you're just on an anti-Jewish rant

 

OK, this is the heart of the issue to me, and the problem I have with the "right of return." Thank you for conceding that that every Jewish community mixed with the local population. The problem for me is that this mixing eventually led to the original Jewish blood thinning out. Today, when they run genetic tests to determine Jewishness, they aren't testing for percentage, they test for existence of. This is utterly bogus because a person can be 95% Chinese and 5% Jewish and all of a sudden they are deemed Jewish and have a "right of return."

The fact is genetically speaking, the vast majority of the world's Jews today are Jews by faith and are racially diverse. The Jews of Morroco are of North African race, the Jews of Europe are European by race. The Jews of India are Indian by race. AND THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

My girlfriend is Jewish and is of Russian/Polish race. She doesn't look Semitic because she isn't. She is Russian/Polish. What logical right does she have to Israel ? She doesn't. That's my issue.

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Of course they bother me, but you don't see us having an Islamic Lobby the way we have the Israeli lobby owning our media and gov't here, do we ? And do we give billions to Iran and Pakistan ? No. Israel is a welfare state that we support. I don't support any theocratic states.

 

Except that Iran and Pakistan don't claim they are Western democracies.

 

every state has the right to establish their own immigration policies.

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oh, so you're changing the goalposts again???????????????????

man, get off your anti-Jewish rant already

 

I'm not Channe.

 

my bad. sorry.

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the USA supports Afghanistan, and they are an Islamic state.

does it bother you now???????????????

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Channe- did you come to this thread just to attack all things Israeli and Jewish?

 

Of course the Zionist state " the right to establish whatever immigration policies it desires."

But who can tell how many will end up living on stolen Palestinian lands - howmany new immigrants will support Likud + other Israeli political extremists . ?

Non-Jewish Palestinians are denied right of return to their ancestral homeland.



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Well Israel was not created based on purity, simply because there are many Jews as always were since.......dawn of history, so the country is for everyone, we dont pick just the purest or fairest, generally speaking the contious line of Jewishness existance is proof alone the nation never died off, so if you want to be....dogmatic like that assume the purest allow the weakest to live with them as Jews. I dont care if for 500 years a person only had one parent at a time that was Jewish, the important thing is he and his ancestors lived as Jews for as far back as they know, having a strong or weak link to ancient Hebrews is just a neat addition, many do, many don't, makes no diffrence.

By the way, in the ancient Kingdom many were non Judean, I remeber reading a while ago that King Saul aid that helped him die was Hittite, Batsheva's husband (King David sweetheart) was Hittite as well, so there you have mixing from the future queen alone, and so on.

 

Think back to before our invasion of Afghanistan. Can you name me one time when we so joyfully handed over billions a year in weapons and money to the Taliban-led Afghanistan ?

The fact is, Israel is the ONLY state we support simply because of it's religion. We give money to Egypt and Afghanistan and Iraq on a political and military basis. But Israel is deemed by Christians to be where Nordic Jesus returns to, and for that reason we blindly support them and the non-Semitic Jewish population that has illegally occupied that region and have committed atrocities against the indigenous Semitic Palestinians for decades.

The end result is a bunch of white, non-Semitic, European Jews who are illegally calling a Middle Eastern land their ancestral homeland. These gals need to go back to Europe.



This man is a true Semitic Jew - only Jews like him have a right to claim an ancestral right to that region along side Semitic Muslims and Christians.

 

Fact: Israel has the legal right to establish any immigration policies it likes.

Fact: Afghanistan and Iraq both received more yearly aid from the USA, than Israel. Afghanstan is an Islamic state.

Fact: "anti-Semitism" does not mean "hatred of Semites". Its a Neologism. Just as a "Lesbian" is not "a person from Lesbos".

Fact: 50% of Israelis have direct North African/Middle Eastern heritage.

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no one cares what you think Jews do or do not have a right to. Your anti-Jewish agenda is clear as day.

 

You're not getting it, Channe. Judaism is a tribal religion - race is an irrelevant factor.

The only reason why Jews shouldn't have set state in Palestine is because it was already Arab land (and was for centuries).

 

Being against immoral policies by Israel is not anti-Jewish. It's anti-immoral policies. That you enjoy blindly cheerleading a foreign government is your deal.