Harry S. Truman Decided To Nuke Hiroshima And Nagasaki

waterboarding was simply one technique.... nevermind the real torture they committed on us that you gloss over so you can claim waterboarding is torture.

 

Civilians were constantly targeted by the allies during WW2 by both sides. More people died in the Fire bombing of Tokyo than Hiroshima.

 

I´m japanese and i don´t know what to say about this topic.You hail Hiroshima and Nagasaki? How sick, degenerated and rotten must a culture be to try to see anything positive in this war against humanity? You are very sick people. I feel sorry for you and hope you get healed. Luckily things turned in our favour. I visited USA...your people live in a pathetic state. Japan is the worlds oldest nation. And you? You are a big nothing. You laugh about our past tragedy and i can tell you one thing, we laughed about your little 911. When i see the videos of americans jumping out of the towers, i feel absolute nothing for them. I only blame my own nation for one thing. We were ruled from old men back then.

Old men tend to be too soft and careful. In old japan the leaders always put young men into leading position. Nobunaga for for example.

I think you don´t know that Japan had its own nuclear weapon program. It started even before yours. Ours was ended from Tojo...who feared it could destroy the world. Tojo was weak and too soft.

And reading all this stuff here i can tell you one thing. And i promise you that this is my absolute serious opinion and i say it with all my heart. If i would have lived back then and lead our nation i would not have attacked you. I would have waited, our program developed and 2 other Yamato class ships build. I would have friendly relations with your country until a simultanous nuclear attack against Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, the Panama Channel, New York, Washington, Chicago would be done. Without warning.

Japan had the technology to do it. Our super ships with the most powerful cannons ever build. our aircraft carrier submarines.

With friendly relations to can reach evry target. What speaks against a friendly combined fleet parade in New York for example. I assume most of your people would come to see the most powerful battleship ever build. And considering the fact that its cannon shot far wider than the curvature of the earth...the idiotic visitors would not even see the mushroom clouds and applaud...since it would take minutes until the news reaches the area.

Thats how Nobunaga would have done it. But who knows what fate brings? For us you exist since an blink of an eye. We were here long before you. And will be here long after you are gone.

 

Harry Truman is a war criminal, who introduced the foreign policy that made the US the military policeman of the world which lead directly to Vietnam and the re-installment of the Shah

as general General George C. Marshall stated, the decision to drop the bomb was a political decision not a military one

"During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of 'face'" - Dwight Eisenhower


"It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons" - Admiral William D. Leahy

"...the Japanese were prepared to negotiate all the way from February 1945...up to and before the time the atomic bombs were dropped; ...if such leads had been followed up, there would have been no occasion to drop the [atomic] bombs." - Herbert Hoober


"I think that the Japanese were ready for peace, and they already had approached the Russians and, I think, the Swiss. And that suggestion of [giving] a warning [of the atomic bomb] was a face-saving proposition for them, and one that they could have readily accepted. In my opinion, the Japanese war was really won before we ever used the atom bomb. Thus, it wouldn't have been necessary for us to disclose our nuclear position and stimulate the Russians to develop the same thing much more rapidly than they would have if we had not dropped the bomb." - Ralph Bard


"I proposed to Secretary Forrestal that the weapon should be demonstrated before it was used. Primarily it was because it was clear to a number of people, myself among them, that the war was very nearly over. The Japanese were nearly ready to capitulate... My proposal to the Secretary was that the weapon should be demonstrated over some area accessible to Japanese observers and where its effects would be dramatic. I remember suggesting that a satisfactory place for such a demonstration would be a large forest of cryptomeria trees not far from Tokyo. The cryptomeria tree is the Japanese version of our redwood... I anticipated that a bomb detonated at a suitable height above such a forest... would lay the trees out in windrows from the center of the explosion in all directions as though they were matchsticks, and, of course, set them afire in the center. It seemed to me that a demonstration of this sort would prove to the Japanese that we could destroy any of their cities at will... Secretary Forrestal agreed wholeheartedly with the recommendation..." - Lews Strauss


"Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey's opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945 and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated." - Paul Nitze


"...when we didn't need to do it, and we knew we didn't need to do it, and they knew that we knew we didn't need to do it, we used them as an experiment for two atomic bombs." -Brigadier General Carter Clarke



as for the estimates on what the US casualties would have been.. those are based on IF the US had gone through with its plans for a full invasion of Japan in November of that year.. but said plans were unnecessary for two reasons

1. Japan was already ready to surrender

and 2. The Russian military had already begun their invasion of Japan

 

At least we debate our country's actions of the past. Morons in Japan still deny that that their country committed crimes against humanity in China, the Philippines, and everywhere else Japan's military conquered.

 

The same way chemiotherapy kills cancer cells. You kill both the civilians and the terrorist in a target area and you do it for the greater good.

 

I denie nothing. I´m proud for it. I see no humanity outside of japan. So there can´t be crimes against humanity outside of japan.

 

You're a moron, and a hypocrite to boot. You cry about your country getting what it deserved , then turn around and defend the barbarism perpetrated by your country.

 

Eh look, another ethnic sock/troll, as if we didn't have enough of the false russians now we have a false japanese.
Man, this forum is going to hell faster than lightspeed.

 

I´m not false. I can post my passport if you want. I´m amused by your stupid peoples comments here. I´m not interested in stupid political debates at all.

 

japan wouldn't have surrendered until completely overwhelmed.

 

You decide who deserves what? I defend nothing. I blame ourself. We made wrong decissions and were too soft.

What do you expect from me? That i feel sorry for chinese? americans? koreans? I can´t. I feel nothing for them. I believe it is positive to be honest and i´m honest. I would lie when i would say i would feel anything for your people. I feel nothing for chinese, americans or whatever.

 

Your country lost as soon as it attacked America, it's defeat was a forgone conclusion.

Next, then don't be mad about the Chinese feeling nothing when they blow your country out of the Pacific.

 

Silly thing to say on a political debate forum....

 

Our decision to bomb Hiroshema and Nagasaki was not something we celebrated. We did to end the war. I had already lost an uncle in the Bataan Death March and that was enough for my family. If you want to celebrate 9/11 that says something about you. You may have started your nuclear program first, but we did it better. I didn't laugh when your POS nuclear reactor fell apart because Japan was too stupid to avoid building it at sea level on a fault line. Maybe I should quit buying Japanese cars if that's the way you feel about us.

 

China is a 3rd world country, only westerners fear this glass giant.

As for losing...i dont see any negative effects on my life. Japan is one of the richest nations under the sun and one of the most powerful. We achieved a one sides worldtrade. We deal with the entire world but kept our nation mostly closed for foreigners and bad things. In Shinto the entire life is war and conflict. We lost no war. Losing a war means death. We got a bloody nose and thats how i see it. We learn from mistakes and get chance to correct.

 

Actually one of their favorite techniques was slowing removing a captive's fingernails...one at a time till they heard what they wanted to hear.

 

You lost an uncle because your nations incompetence. American soldiers were badly trained and not used to march long distances. Your atmy did capitulate too late and had no rescources left. What do you expect? That our soldiers slow down and share their food and water with the enemy? Those prisoners were a burden and slowed us down.

As for 911, i have no feelings about it, No positive but not negative as well. I can see it and feel nothing about it. I dont celebrate it. Im against muslim terrorism but i dont feel bad as well. So dont say that i celebrate it.

And why you bring cars into it? If you like the quality of our products you should not bring personal opinion into it.

Too bring something positive...such events always create a grudge. You create hate with it that goes through generations. I'm a young man but this makes me angry. Thats what i mean with it.

 

My uncle did just fine and carried his wounded CO all the way to the prison camp where he was neglected and died of disentary. I don't recall your superior Japanese soldiers marching across America.

I'll base my purchases on whatever criteria I choose. Its my money to spend.

 

Can cancer recruit other areas of the body to be cancer cells when you kill non-cancerous cells in the area with cancer?

That is why that example is stupid. We mass murder civilians and terrorists alike in one area, recruitment will grow in others.

 

How do you know? Where you there? You know rumours and you cant say what really happened.

P.s. What car do you drive?

 

hindsight is 20\20, that said, no one has used nukes sense, so maybe the world needed that wake up call, and maybe it shaped future use of such weapons, had it happened another way, maybe we would not be here today

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http://www.west-point.org/family/japanese-pow/POWSites-Japan.htm

 

Some of his friends survived and told us about him after the war.

I drive a Mazda CX-9, my sons drive a Toyota 4runner and a Toyota pickup. I see more Ford trucks like my wife's in my future.

 

Harry Truman was the first President to propose universal health care.


Yet today, Rightwingers like to claim "He'd be a Republican today"....despite the fact he proudly was at the signing of Medicare in 1965.....and they want to destroy Medicare.