Harry S. Truman Decided To Nuke Hiroshima And Nagasaki

Did General Hideki Tojo take responsibility for the Pearl Harbor Attack December 7, 1941 and the consequences of waking the sleeping giant? Seems Yamamoto was well aware of the consequences yet he went along with Tojo and designed it by copying the American simulated carrier attack on the Panama Canal of the 1930's. The so-called invincible Japanese Army was destroyed by the American forces. No one claims that the Japanese were poor fighters. Their leaders and their tactics were bad.

 

To you there is no word like gomenasai, non deska?

 

Tojo was not Japan and i dont support what he did in any way. I dint know how to say it in english. When americans bring up this stuff, do you think that creates harmony and positive feelings between our people? I love my country.

 

i have no problems with americans at all. I even have some american friends who i know from my sport and competitions i participate. But they are not so hostile and insulting like many here.

 

To be historically correct, Admiral Yamamoto quote >" I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant "< is a myth started by Hollywood. (typical when it comes to the Hollywood left and war.) Admiral Yamamoto never said it.

The quote first appeared at the end of the movie "Tora,Tora,Tora."
It was also used in the movie "At Dawn We Slept" by Gordon Prange.
No one who ever was in contact with Admiral Yamamoto or on his staff who survived the war remember Yamamoto making such a statement.
Yamamoto's personal diary doesn't contain the quote.

It's a myth, created by some Hollywood screen writer.

 

You were causing atrocities in Chine so spare me that load of rubbish.

Why do you people ignore your own history and whine over what America did to you?

YOU were the complete aggressors of WW II. Not anybody else.

You're just sore because you got your arses kicked.

 

The A Bomb saved Japanese lives too.
The people of Japan were malnourished, starving and suffering
the diseases that take advantage of a weakened population.
There was epidemic TB for instance.

The A Bomb shocked a culture that would have gone down fighting to the last beating Japanese heart
to accept the unacceptable and endure the unendurable - surrender.

Although an invasion would have certainly costs some 0.5 million American + allied lives
the Japanese would have died from continued war, disease, starvation to an extent that is multiples of the Bomb's deaths.
And that "surrender" would have not reset their culture but, encourage harboring dissent like a rebellious Southerner after Lee's surrender.

The Bomb was like pushing the "reset" button on their culture.
How lucky they were to have "MacArthur" manage it all for them. And I mean that.
MacArthur's rehabilitation of Japan is a remarkable feat overlooked in history and his biography.

Moi
Lucky we don't never need no cultural reset


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The fuse for war in the Pacific between Japan and America the British was lit in 1905, it was unavoidable. President Teddy Roosevelt provided the fuse and Imperial Japan lit the fuse.

The war plan that was used by the United States in the Pacific during WW ll was "Plan Orange" drawn up by two Marine officers and adopted in 1924.

The only surprise was that the Japanese struck the U.S. Navy at Pearl Harbor that General Billy Mitchell (U.S. Army Air Corps) predicted in 1925.

For the first year or more in the war in the Pacific, the British got their butts whooped big time and the Americans were getting their butts kicked all over the Pacific.

The best credible and historically correct history on WW ll is from what historically correct history is written from. No opinions just American, British, Japanese and German official records.

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/

Start here for the Pacific -> http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/PTO/index.html

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USMC/index.html

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/index.html

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AMH/AMH/AMH-23.html

 

Akuma-kun, if you ever actually come to Japan you should visit the Peace Museum in Osakajo Koen. Well worth the visit. Extremely well balanced and fair, which enrages the aikokumin and their nutty sound trucks who periodically have protested its existence (especially the Nanking gyakusatsu exhibit). But well worth the visit. IF you ever make it here.

As an aside, the Son My (My Lai) memorial centre is also incredible balanced and fair. Almost painfully so.

 

Hai Dozo! I have no doubt you love your country just as I love mine. The fact remains that Japan during the 1930's invaded China and attacked the U.S. Navy in Pearl Harbor unprovoked. That cannot be changed. The question remains are you ready to fight for your country's honor and the honor for the two Japanese that were kidnapped and beheaded?

 

Hey Wehrwolfen, from what I hear is post WW ll, Japanese schools really don't touch on Japans history in China and Manchuria during the 1930's that much. They are taught some history of WW ll, mostly 1941 - 1945. It's not revisionist history like we see being taught today in America today, they just don't touch on it that much.

My mother's brother was killed in New Guinea by a Japanese Zero.

My father and another uncle were Marines who fought in the Pacific. All of my other five uncles fought in Europe during WW ll, four were WIA.

in June/July my father was just transferred from the 3rd. Mar Div., to the 5th Mar Div and was being prepared for the invasion of Japan. The 3rd, 4th and 5th Marine divisions were suppose to be the amphibious assault forces that were to hit the beach on Kyusha during Operation Olympic. Odds of my father being killed ? 50-50.

If the atomic bomb wasn't used, it's a 50% chance I wouldn't be here today.

Anyone on this forum who had a father or grandfather who was serving with any on the following units in 1945 might not be here today.
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, Marine Divisions. The Army's lst Cavalry, 43d Infantry, Americal Division, 25th, 33d, 41st, 77th, 81st, and 98th Infantry Divisions. Also the Army's ten divisions of the "1st Army" were in transit from Europe to Japan for the invasion of the main Japanese island that operation was Operation Coronet

You could say I'm a result of the nuking Japan.

 

My cousin volunteered on Dec 8, 1941, was rejected by the Army, Navy but was accepted by the Marines. He fought at Guadalcanal, New Guinea/New Britain, etc. Believe it or not he was felled by malaria. He's passed away recently and like everything about WWII, first hand info is being lost and history is perverted and revised by the Progressive Left.

 

of course japan is ready. we always ready. But what you expect?

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Nobody ever "kicked my arse".

 

So, you go from a ultra nationalist thinking you're better than everyone to being offended, hahahah!!

Grow up.

 

Actually, quite a few people here would if they could get away with it. This site isn't exactly a kumbaya drum circle.

 

Japan didn't attack Pearl Harbor unprovoked. The Pacific Fleet being moved there from San Diego combined with the oil embargo were provocations.

 

our sanctions were a response to Japanese barbarism.

 

I´m not offended. It was a simple question.

 

ha ha

i don´t see you sanction Saudi Arabia. Or yourself for Vietnam, Philippines. Remember? Your Motto there was: "kill evryone older than 12". So spare me that. You did not care about China. You were scared that we crushed the european imperialists one by one. Asia is for asians and that was the great achievement of Japan. It ended colonialism in Asia.

 

INNOCENT? Hardly, they toiled away making war material for the Imperial Japanese Military. They were hardly innocent.

 

All out war devolves into what is essentially state-sanctioned terrorism against the populace of the opposing state.

 

Are you ready to randori? The world is awaiting to see your physical response to two innocent Japanese that have been beheaded. Oh wait, isn't that part of ritual Seppeku?

 

While Japan raped Nanking and committed mass extermination of Chinese.

 

come back with your school room foolishness when an Asian navy rules the pacific. there must be a reason you call your ships junks.

 

I guess that's all reasonable for those of you who believe we HAD to invade if we didn't drop the bombs. That ain't the way the generals looked at it.