Coldest temperatures in decades in the northeast.

global warming is so magical isn't it....droughts, floods, blizzards and years with no snow ....global warming can cause anything that makes a headline and some gets a few billion in grant money right or pushes failed technology like solar and wind so your buddies and their lawyers can suck up more government money

 

Actually not embarrassed at all because unlike many Americans - particularly it seems those who are in denial about Climate Change - they understand this is a GLOBAL phenomena

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Denialism is so solid - no rational explanation will breech it

 

And back in the real world, it works the exact opposite way. The adjustments make the warming look _smaller_. Which means that this latest kook denier conspiracy theory fails hard.

I'd hope that those who fell for this latest right wing kook cult conspiracy theory would do some soul searching. You know, try to figure out why they were so willing to be fooled, and condemn the dishonest people who fed them the big lies. But that never happens. Like an abused spouse, the deniers cultists instead just go running back for more abuse.

Credibility matters. Global warming deniers have been getting every single thing wrong for decades running, which is why the whole planet just laughs at them now. In direct contrast, the mainstream scientists have been pegging everything dead on correct for decades now, which is why they have so much credibility.

 

if denying that record cold is due to man made global warming then yeah I deny it, anyone who thinks otherwise is just plain stupid. I certainly do not want to be associated with anyone who uses natural phenomena to cause their countrymen to suffer for some stupid political and monetary motivations and preaches lies on the internet to make a political point. That is just evil

After 25 years now of failed predictions I would think that the only ones promoting global warming would be complete idiots or shills for the corporations and puppet master politicians

The $15 billion price tag is $670 per Australian, or $2,700 per household of four. The real total is much more (when will the government add up the real bill?), because that tally doesn’t include the money wasted on solar panels, windpower, or the whole “Department of Weather Change”. It doesn’t include millions in scientific research money poured down the sinkhole of climate models that don’t model our climate, nor the advertising, promotion and propaganda of all of the above.

A smart conservative government would add up the whole bill, then spend 0.1% (something like $20 million) paying skeptical scientists to audit, and check the evidence trail. They would trumpet their green credentials. This source of the river of gravy starts with the science. People who care about the poor and the planet would want to get that right..

http://joannenova.com.au/2015/01/ca...most-nothing-and-cool-the-world-by-even-less/

 

I think you need the secret decoder ring before you can understand the denialists. Here's a start, more rules always welcome.
1) Global means "NYC and New Engand, USA"
2) Average means "the coldest winter spell you can find."
3) Long-term means "I couldn't get through the snow to my outhouse today."
4) Human influence means "why did it warm up a million years ago, huh? Answer me THAT!"
5) Climate means "Look at all the snow in Boston."

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Hey, how are those bitter cold summers coming in Australia these days? Setting any records?

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/outlooks/#/overview/summary

 

it has to warm somewhere right LOL, maybe Death Valley is this weeks hotspot

BTW the southern hemisphere is not co operating with the global warming BS either

http://judithcurry.com/2014/05/01/the-inconvenient-southern-hemisphere/

 

You are beginning to see the light, I hope. You're right, at any given time of year some of the planet is going to be hotter than another. Australian winter is American summer. So to get a global average, you don't cherry-pick the record colds during the coldest week in February over half of one nation. You look at every temperature you can get, over the entire planet - on the surface, in the atmosphere, under the ocean. You average them all. You do this every day for years. You see if there is any trend.

 

what you seem to fail to grasp is that there have been trends as long as there has been a planet, it entirely natural. What you need to do is realize that history does not consider of just your lifetime and look at the temperature swings of the last 12,000 years

 

Then you have to adjust raw data based on assumptions, then put it through a model to come up with one temperature for the Earth, which of course doesn't exist in real life. Lot's of room for error, which of course is not reported along with the sensational reports of the 'warmest year'.

Do you have any idea which region of the Earth made it the 'warmest year'?

 

There are literally hundreds of threads on the sky is falling, lookout for manmade global warming, run the climate change is coming. Are you familiar with Al Gore? If you aren't claiming it should be stable why is the left wetting their pants about it being unstable?
Better yet, why don't you just clear it up for us and tell us if YOU think the climate should be stable or not.

 

Nobody denies there are trends. I don't think anyone denies that all of these trends have always had underlying causes. What SOME people deny is that it's impossible for human activity to be such a cause. I don't understand this denial. Why can't humans be a cause?

 

This argument sounds like "we don't know everything, therefore we don't know anything." I remember going through the tobacco schtick. It was "we don't have enough information". Then it was "people have always suffered from cancer". Then it was "how can we know it's cigarettes and not air pollution?" Then it became "it's only dangerous to those genetically vulnerable." When it comes to AGW, I see that the playbook hasn't changed a bit.

 

Logical fallacy. Climate Science is not even close to medical science in maturity.

 

try solar activity which has been shown to have a direct correlation to the ocean currents such as the PDO, AMO, and the MOC. I sure as hell am skeptical of a pseudo science formed around a solution in need of a problem

 

No, you are wrong in this case. The goal of the denialists is to create doubt. It's the same strategy. You can even look at the parallels which I gave you. Earth (people) has always had climage change (lung cancer). And so on. The victim of the doubt campaigns are also parallel, in that they understand cancer about as well as they understand climate. They are ideal in this respect, because they cannot distinguish BS from science, but they know what they want to hear.

 

Of course solar activity, being by far the most important factor in climate, is carefully controlled for before doing anything else.

But if you simply wish to prefer to believe that nothing is happening, no amount of evidence, no matter how overwhelming, no matter how all-embracing, no matter how devastatingly convincing, could ever make any difference.

When thousands of people, the least of whom knows ten times more about this than I do, are all pretty much in agreement (except those paid by certain industries), it's more than arrogant for me to decide they're all part of a giant conspiracy. It's more idiotic than arrogant.

 

Wow... you really have no idea what you're arguing against, do you? The debate is over whether or not the current changes in global climate is influenced by mankind, other factors, or a mixture of both. Of course such an argument accepts the fact that climate is unstable. If human activity is at least partly to blame for these changes, then perhaps we can manipulate to more comfortable ranges. Furthermore, climate change will have positive impacts on many parts of the world, and it will also have very negative impacts on other parts of the world, so the other half of the debate is figuring out what areas will be negatively affected and what, if anything, can be done to protect them.

Threads like this, claiming, "Oh, it was cold today in Boston, so rising average global temperatures must be a myth," are the laughing stock of the internet. You couldn't be further off from relevancy to the actual topic for debate.

 

Your problem is I know exactly what I am arguing against.
Ummm yeah.......I have no idea what Im talking about. How scientific of you. Climate change is beneficial in some parts of the world but not others.....hmmmm derp....THATS THE WAY ITS AWLAYS BEEN! But oohhhh wait you cant control the climate as long as we give you money right?
We are already living in a comfortable range. If we weren't we would all be dead.

 

The silly denier obsession with money is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing laughable.

 

Where are we now anyway???? Just a few years ago I was suppose to be alarmed about the new ice age, then I supposed to be alarmed about the global warming age, then that changed to being alarmed about climate change (...as if the climate changing is a big revelation or something.....do people get paid to write a paper telling me that??? Man....what a gig).
Anyway....let me know what I'm supposed to alarmed this week cuss gotta go shut my patio doors...it's cooling off pretty quick tonight. Geesh...hope that's not a new ice age coming...I just resurfaced my pool.

 

Of course, let's go with the Halliburton & Koch paid shills & TeeVee weathermen as opposed to 95% of actual CLIMATE SCIENTISTS.

Makes sense to me (i guess ;~)

 

My god I can't believe you guys still harp on with this silly meme. The majority of scientists have predicted warming since the 1970s. That is a fact.


http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1

Also global warming is just once component of climate change. There's also ocean acidification, sea level rise, rising ocean temperatures, melting glaciers, increased desertification, ect.

 

But but but...... global warming makes things colder! Because...... because...... Al Gore!

 

While there have been plenty of cold records in the north east, the rest of the country has seen far more record warm days. Hell, here in Oregon there has been very little snow on the mountains, and the past two weeks have seen many 60+ days, which is crazy.



http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/02/20/3625194/climate-change-records/

I think somebody already pointed it out, but globally January was the second warmest on record.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/summary-info/national/2015/1