BREAKING NEWS: A leading politician & Putin´s critic B Nemtsov shot dead

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and yet you justified the murder of this guy, with this comment:

     
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    really?
    [video=youtube;6sM3kcL9hHQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=6sM3kcL9hHQ[/video]
    ps do you know that according even your law you are committing the crime right new, by covering the offender? what do you think will be your future status in Moscovite prison ?
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    Could have been one of the husbands of the women he put his hand down their shirts while he was campaigning. Who knows.
    View attachment 33901

    Or it could be just another "look over here, not over here" moment.
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  5. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;G7pbc0317Go]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=G7pbc0317Go[/video]
     
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    soon the trolls are gonna post hard core porno with the middle-age brunets in order to prove us that it was an angry husband from Ingushetia ...
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    Nothing like the shooting of a low level, womanizing ,paid off politician to bring the Kiev Nazi populace out in force.
    28th of February, 2015. Kiev, Ukraine.

    US puppets of Ukraine brought flowers, candles and placards “Putin killed my friend” to the Maidan in memory of Boris Nemtsov.
    They also brought flowers, candles and placards “Russia, wake up! Nemtsov was killed by the regime of Putin! Ukraine mourns!”, “Russian democracy was shot dead in the back!”, “Ray of light was killed in the country of impenetrable darkness”, “Free Savchenko” to the Russian embassy in Kiev.
     
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    Wouldn't it be nice if the sociopaths in Washington acquired a sense of right and wrong. Maybe then they wouldn't be so frightened of Putin's integrity and wouldn't be resorting to all these false flag attacks in order to arouse Anti Putin feelings?

    By the way since Nemtsov was probably on the CIA payroll, do you think that maybe he knew too much? That way Washington felt that by killing him they could free themselves from the threat he imposed as well as for its propaganda value? Just a thought!
    :oldman:
     
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    so not only was he a traitor, womanizer, but he was also on the CIA payroll?

    wow, the character assassination of a murder victim is in overdrive, huh?

    good thing Putin can count on his loyal sheep to immediately yell "inside job!!!!" and "western false-flag attack!!!!" whenever one of his opponents is mysteriously murdered.

    that way he never has to worry about any attention on himself. :)
     
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    Russia is already toast due to Putins blunders. Like not seeing the obvious benefits of his foes fracking shale for a now large percentage their domestic oil. Lets not forget that some of those countries that are buying large amounts of Russian crude is sitting on mountains of oil shale too! He prob thought fracking was fuc***g, so Putin was all in for that. Fracking is making crude cheap, and will eventually harm a lot of economies before its all said and done. For Russia, fracking may be its 2015 version of star-wars, especially if they rely on putins leadership (like they have choice in the matter). Its like the Reagan era where the ill led Russians feared a concept (Star-wars) that wouldn't work in the first place. That fear resulted in the Russians bankrupting themselves trying to defend against it. Fracking will do the same although in a slightly different way. I have nothing personal against Putin, but he is stupid. That said, I actually like the Russian people far, far FAR more than their leaders. They are a strong resilient loyal people that come from a long line of warriors and other worthy lineage. The people deserve better than that the mighty (in his own mind KGB pud pounder, Putin.

    reva
     
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    good thing we can count on Putin's slaves to yell "false flag attack!!!" like clockwork, anytime any of his opponents is killed or almost killed.

    too bad Western leaders don't have such a luxury.
     
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    Most western leaders dont need it because it is they that do a lot of the killing or otherwise neutralizing such threats.

    reva
     
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    funny how some folks believe only Western leaders are capable of snuffing out their enemies.

    but no, not Chinese, North Korean, Iranian, or Russian leaders.

    they would never do such a thing.
     
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    "Politkovskaya was gunned down. MH17 was shot out of the sky. Now Boris is dead. As always, Kremlin will blame opposition, or CIA, whatever."


    - Garry Kasparov
     
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    What the hell you are talking about? Do you have any proofs, evidences, witnesses of who ordered the murder and who committed it? I am sure no. So your polemics does not cost even a cent.
     
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    That western press and the leadership of the US and Ukraine are exploiting this is another clue that they had a hand in it.

    We can see already statements made by Obama and Poroshenko, Canadian Foreign Minister and also deputy general secretary of NATO happened very quickly, uniformly, and seem to be following a procedure.


    These statements from NATO and foreign governments are outrageous, but not surprising, because they imply that the Russian government is behind them. Why would the murder be 'condemned'? Besides that all murders are condemned, generally, by the societies in which they occur (hence there are laws against them), why would this particular murder be 'condemned' politically without knowing if there was a political motive at all?


    As we know, on March 1st, tomorrow, there will be another attempt by the pro-US forces and their liberal allies to launch a Russian "Spring", also called the 'Anti-Crisis March'. With this fresh murder just 36 hours before the March, we might expect to see the martyrdom of Nemtsov highlighted.

    Just ten days ago, Alexei Navalny another western backed figure, was arrested for trying to organize for the march, which backers hope will attract as many as 100,000 against Putin.



    When Putin was last elected, the same group organized a similar march. The loyal opposition Communists joined this march, and drowned the liberal banners with communist ones.
    This was an excellent test run and message sent to US handlers, that Russia is ready with its own loyal opposition to frustrate and redirect the aims of any 5th column efforts on the part of the US.

    Likewise, on the propaganda front, the patriotic scene has co-opted the term 'Russian Spring' to mean the opposite of what the US has branded it in places like Egypt, Libya, and Syria. Now it means a movement to push back the US's hegemonic schemes, including its use of the Color/Spring tactic.

    The biggest concern now for this Sunday's march is not the turnout, or how it will be spun in the west. The problem on the propaganda side of this action so far is that it is quite useless and incomplete.

    Russia's present political stability and the popularity of Putin is not in the hands of western media. This represents a monumental change from the last days of old media during the collapse of the USSR, when BBC and CNN presented the spectacle of objective and neutral reporting.

    For Russian audiences, and Russian media, this investigation will follow the form of a standard murder investigation. Given the status of the victim and the political implications, it will be given significant coverage. Eventually investigators will make an arrest, and some story will be told. The story may or may not be true, but by and large it will be accepted.

    Russians are not losing sleep over this murder, and the outcome of the investigation is not related in any way to their general support for the present government and its policies. Russians have other things to do, places to go, work to get done, and lives to live. Most didn't like him, and only see it as a tragedy, perhaps even a US plot. Those who like him will blame the state, as they hold the state and Putin responsible for much of everything else. All of this is true also of Sunday's planned march.

    For western audiences, Russia is already now a totalitarian regime in which opposition is silenced, and its leaders imprisoned and killed in cold blood. This is already the narrative which requires no further reiteration. Putin is Hitler. Appeasement will not work. This is already the line.

    All of this means that we haven't heard the end of this yet. It is difficult to see how increased sanctions can be pulled out of this murder, but if there are, that should be no surprise. Past sanctions were based on less. Still, Europe has grown wary of sanctions and any further sanctions are likely to be symbolic, as were the last round.

    The biggest concern now is if there are more killings planned for Sunday. The US seems to be going ahead with all of its plans even if the necessary successes at each step before are not met. We have seen this in Syria and Ukraine.

    In such an event, it is obvious how the US will spin this, and the call will begin openly for Putin to step down. While this last part may be an eventuality at any rate, the events tomorrow will tell us whether we should expect a serious escalation in this process.


    Joaquin Flores is an American expat living in Belgrade. He is a full-time analyst at the Center for Syncretic Studies, a public geostrategic think-tank. His expertise encompasses Eastern Europe and Eurasia,
     
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    Kasparov is a political idiot. He would better played chess.
     
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    Nemstov was shot while walking with a Ukrainian woman less than half his age after having dinner and supposedly on the way to his apartment.

    Could well be that she set him up. An anti-Putin martyr is much more valuable than a vocal but minor critic. Really, how many folks here even heard of this guy before? Now, he's big news. The New York Times is doing its part, deeming his murder an 'assassination', with the blame pointed at Putin.

    This couldn't be a neater package if it was gift-wrapped.
     
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    What ! there's no Internal Revenue Service (IRS) in Russia ?

    Putin uses assassination to eliminate his critics while Obama uses the IRS.
     
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    when IRS has killed the leader of opposition last time ?
     
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    A present situation in Russia, someone is dissatisfied with Putin, someone on Putin side. They for each other not enemies. But most of people, including and dissatisfied with Putin, all the same now on Putin's party - rallied / united because the people understand that:
    The West, first of all the USA, began against Russia and Putin by war. Such war call "Network-centric warfare", and this war began with death in Ukraine of a flight of MH17, and proceeded a collapse in prices on energy carriers, first of all, on oil, and attack to ruble. Diplomatic, economic and information war goes at full speed, with application of all means and methods, with use of all opportunities. And your empty slogans, not the facts, not subjects for discussion, BUT simply empty slogans - allegedly Putin is guilty of death of MH17, Chechnya, Georgia is too part of network-centric war against Russia.
     
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    what cost less then nothing is your troll manual , " Nemtsov was killed because of mafia money dispute with ....how knows, or was killed by pu$sy "

    ps

    your pitch for today : "In Putler´s Russia Pu$sies kill", you can read all comments here no one buys it
     
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    its so funny when the losers who work like disrespectful slaves for 500$ call the pure genius for idiot ...
     

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