Ted Cruz - Now Officially - Enemy Of The State.

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  1. Philly Rabbit

    Philly Rabbit New Member

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    Last week while announcing his candidacy at Liberty University, which was enough in itself to ruffle panties all over secular America knowing the college is a Christian university founded by Jerry Falwell, Ted Cruz made a statement that is still producing repercussions throughout the media and everywhere anti theists may roam. "Our rights come from God."

    Two alarming facts about this appearance at Liberty and statement by Cruz that must be pointed out;

    1. The number of unsuspecting people in the country who didn't know that the entire concept of American liberty was founded on that very notion, that indeed, American rights were granted to Americans by a God of nature at birth.

    2. The same people who are slamming Cruz for having the audacity to announce his candidacy at a Christian university and for making such an outlandish statement either support or are indifferent about the fact that Cruz and other conservatives are not permitted to even speak at other liberal universities. They are either not invited by the administrations of these dens of liberal indoctrination of young people out of fear of intimidation and reprisal from Marxist faculty and left wing student groups or if invited, are shouted down by student mobs who sometimes threaten violence and run off of campus.

    It's time to recognize the danger of fascist censorship with this and educate the public about the entire concept of free political speech while pinpointing collectivly the supporters of these types of tactics and their insistent condemnations of Cruz and his statement. They are the real danger to our liberties.
     
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    And this is why people should support Cruz. He has the biggest balls in all of Washington. He's the only one that doesn't take any crap from anybody. He is what Chris Christy used to be before he suddenly and strangely sold out and pawned his spine to try to appear more centrist (I've never figured that one out).

    Anyone that says Cruz is too extreme or that people will never vote for him are only saying that because they are afraid he has a really good chance of actually winning. And that will ruin everything they are trying to accomplish. Just remember that whenever libs are braying about how "unelectable" he is. They're not trying to convince you. They're trying to convince themselves.
     
  3. Philly Rabbit

    Philly Rabbit New Member

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    I think the best candidates to support are the ones the establishment doesn't like.

    Ted is certainly doing something right with all this scrutiny he is currently getting.
     
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    RiseAgainst Banned

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    Ted Cruz is the ONLY Republican who will definitely win. Others might win. But Cruz WILL.
     
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    I don't see any basis at all for most of your post.

    Ted Cruz slapped together his coming out speech. It wasn't as if Liberty had invited him a while back, He invited himself, so they dumped Terry McAuliffe (the Governor) for him, and made it mandatory that everyone attend so the room would be full for the television cameras.

    I have no idea whether Cruz has been invited to speak at any university, much less the so called "dens of liberal indoctrination" (and neither do you).

    Our rights are self derived. They do not come from God.

    God does not dole out different sets of rights to different people depending on who they are or where they live.

    Governments do that.
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    The Christian Right has no future in America. It's falsified the actual history behind America, they aim to create a semi-Religious State in the heart of America and they unwittingly support the same warmongers who would bring us into a new dark age. I'm no fan of Liberalism, as you know so well. But where we're aligned is the war against the Religious Right.

    They're not electable, they cannot be electable lest America decline further.
     
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    kgeiger002 Active Member Past Donor

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    I'd vote for Cruz in a NY minute! I'm not at all worried about stating that!!!!!! ...I think many leftists actually fear Cruz! ...but trust me they will never admit that!
     
  8. X-ray Spex

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    "If L. Ron Hubbard was really serious about creating a cult ruled by fear, money, and mind control, he'd have founded a college."

    - iowahawkblog
     
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    You entirely miss the point of America's founding! Nice.

    The Founders believed that, and they put their lives on the line to carry it out. That a government should be limited to the least government possible, and that its most important duty to discharge was protecting the rights God gave to the people. Which are: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

    It's called American exceptionalism. It is an experiment unlike any other on the face of the planet. Please treat it with respect.
     
  10. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    "Please treat it with respect." You actually mean for a leftwinger to do that? Okay, now that's funny right there. I don't care who you are.
     
  11. LowKey

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    I would not define a christian university as a "ballsy" jumping off point for a Republican Party candidate particularly when you are aiming to be the conservative candidate. It is the smart jumping off point in my opinion. Shows me Cruz's people know what they are doing. I would not underestimate him as a candidate.
     
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    If Hillary beats the email rap, and ends up going on to win the Democratic nomination, I doubt Cruz will beat her.

    I'm no fan of Hillary, but a far right conservative is unlikely to win the next general election. The majority of the American public wouldn't vote for him.
     
  13. Philly Rabbit

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    Didn't the U.S. government enact laws to enslave people and enact more laws to keep them enslaved?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All for nought.All this hypercritical second guessing and smearing of a
    Guy because it's basically what dimocrats and *******s do.They hammer away
    at any perceived Achilles' heel.Or they just Create an Achilles' heel.
    Like the dopey meme the Clintons tried with the GOP's War on Women.
    Rand Paul handled that bugaboo correctly.By explaining factually how it
    was the Clintons who mount a War on Woman.It's called PORJECTION.
    The gnarly attempt to transfer the sins of one party { democrat } onto their
    foe { GOP }.But the key is to DO IT FIRST. Be the first party to level a
    sin onto the opposing party.Then ... hammer away. Like the way Obama
    used Mitt Romney's { 47 % er } comment against an entire GOP.
    That and the 1% { Occupy Wall Street } meme.When in fact it's Obama who
    Lives to fundraise,vacation and use 1% ers.Like his Hollywood clique.
    His Rapper clique { JayZ and Beyoncé } or his unreported associations with
    Lobbyists in his bid to achieve a Literal Political Aristocracy of Washington elites.
    There are now More Millionaires in this Country than ever before.
    While the Middle Class is slowly evaporating away.
    Ted Cruz has both the Moxie,the balls and the winning approach to explain
    in everyman terms how this rigged Obama/democrat operation works.
     
  15. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...The question is, which state? Cuba? Canada? US?
    He's Canadian, a liberal cesspool, but he wants to save his mother's country, the US?
    Why not go save his own country?
    Why not go to Cuba and try to save his father's country from the ruins of liberalism?
    Or maybe he could go to Hollywood and make it big as Grandpa Munster in a reboot of The Munsters sitcom.
    Ted's an ambitious boy.
     
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    The Founders were Deists. In other words, while they believed in the concept of a Supreme Being, this "Supreme Being" was not entirely(or at all) based on Judeo-Christian belief(or any other belief for that matter.) Their thoughts more aligned with Albert Einstein's thoughts on the subject matter. In which Einstein recognized and proclaimed that the Universal workings were both made of Love and yet beyond man's understanding at the time.

    The Christian Right has absolutely zero idea about how this country was founded. They think this country was a de-facto copy of England(which DOES have an Official State Church). We don't and never will.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mr.Cruz to you. He had dual citizenship and decided to renounce his
    Canadian citizenship in favor of his Mom's America.Perfectly natural
    and it's also called naturalization.
     
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    It's strange how you phrased that. God only granted natural-born rights to Americans?

    Most of us "unsuspecting people" acknowledge that the Western concept of natural-born rights is essential to the American ethos, and that a government is necessary to preserve and protect those rights. But it's meaningless to say our rights were granted by God since God did not write them down anywhere. Furthermore, the "rights" that we acknowledge as a society change over time. We used to have the right to own other people; now that right has been abolished. Does Ted Cruz really want to align himself with the idea that God granted us the right to own slaves until we took it away?
     
  19. X-ray Spex

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    Damn, those Founders were smart! They aligned their beliefs with a guy who wouldn't be born until nearly a hundred years later!

    /levity

    So they called it a supreme being instead of God. Some of them. But together they acknowledged that God or the supreme being was the source of our rights and the function of OUR government was to secure and protect them, which was greatly at odds with the practice of the times, everywhere else on the planet. We were responding to Tom's assertion that

    and the whole point of our bringing it up is that America's Founders disagreed. They were the only ones to establish a government not to 'dole out' rights, but to explicitly enumerate these rights and to limit government from infringing on them. Mooting his entire conception of American founding, history, and exceptionalism.

    We do not identify with the 'Christian Right.' Couldn't claim to know what 'they' 'think,' but we give them more credit for intelligence and historical context than your gross caricature does; further, we suppose that they indeed know more about the country's founding than the anti-Christian Left would, as evidenced by the lack of historical grounding in the post to which we responded.
     
  20. Philly Rabbit

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    Does a person who is illiterate have natural born rights in America? A newborn can't read or write. A government official must declare rights written down? I don't think so.

    The law said you could own other people, not divine providence. Waiting for people to write and decree laws is always a bad idea. You start at birth with basic human rights then write laws to protect them, not create them.
     
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    Lol...In all seriousness, Ted is the spitting image of Grandpa Munster, so no way people are going to take him seriously.
    But if he makes your leg tingle, then vote for him.
     
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    You are confused.
    There are no natural born rights.
    Everything that is born struggles to survive and has no guarantee of any life, liberty, pursuit of happiness or any other benefit. It may be born to be eaten the moment it comes out of its shell or it may lead a long, lucky life. The law of the jungle determines who lives and who dies.
    The only rights people have are the ones we choose to confer on each other as part of society.
    Government is the final enforcer of those rights, since not everyone respects other people's rights and we no longer want to live by the law of the jungle to survive or defend our rights.
     
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    I'm not confused over the knowledge that you need someone making a law in order for you to have a right.
     
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    The point that the OP misses is that the Founders did not mean "God grants rights." They were merely making the philosophical point that we all have inherent rights simply because we are human, and that those rights can be suppressed but not taken away by human governments.

    In other words, I have a right to the pursuit of happiness (for example). A government can forcibly prevent me from doing so, but that does not mean I lose the right. It just means I'm being tyrannically prevented from exercising my innate rights.

    That principle requires neither religion nor belief in God.
     
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    How do you know what "basic human rights" everyone starts with? How does the illiterate person know what rights he's supposed to have?
     

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