House committee votes to upend first D.C. law in 23 years

1) I am not religious.
2) You do not have to be a religious zealot to defend the right of business owners to make business decisions.

 

Sure that's why you're on a forum arguing against a humans right to use birth control. It's even more repulsive if you're not religious and it all about power over peoples sexual relations. You're making zero sense, are you racist, sexist, homophobic? Why do you want to fire people over anything you wish besides poor performance? You're going to have to pin the tail on this donkey or I'm writing it off as nonsense.

 

You don't have to support a decision to defend a person's right to make it.

 

But you can be held accountable if its discriminatory and bigoted. You lay with dogs you'll get fleas.

 

So, I am responsible for what someone else does because I supported their right to make the decision?

 

How so? They both advocate for discrimination.

If you don't believe people should then quit arguing the point of allowing it. The contradiction is idiotic, it's either you want us to regress civil rights or you believe we all have certain human rights (even in the work place) that shouldn't be violated. We both know which it is you're just to cowardice to say it.

 

The Nazis killed over 18 million people and started the bloodiest war in human history.

The KKK killed thousands of people and terrorized countless more.

Business owners don't want to employ people whose lifestyle they disagree with.

If you can't see the difference, there's no point in even continuing this argument.

 

Both advocated discriminating against people! Same with this policy your supporting!

You again are deflecting and your usefulness to this conversation is waning. Quit being a coward and answer the question: 'should we regress civil rights and allow employers to discriminate against employees?" a simple yes or no will suffice

 

I give up. If you can't understand the difference between what I am advocating and what the Nazis advocated, I refuse to waste my time trying to argue with you.

 

Again deflection you should give up. You're too cowardice to admit you advocate the removal of civil rights in the work place. We have two pages of you bouncing all over a subject and being contradictory. I asked what the hell someone else would need to fire someone over besides job performance and you can't answer the question. It's sad really.

 

I have been very clear about this: I do not think that they should discriminate, but the government should not stop them. The free market is more than capable of sorting this stuff out.

 

Birth control is a human right? For Who?

 

Dude, in an At Will state a person can be fired because of the color of his hair. Period.

A job is a civil right? Really?

 

For me or anyone else, I have all rights to protect my body from STDs and avoiding impregnating someone. Get with reality here Pedro.

 

the normal standard for dismissal is that the employer must have a "just cause". Otherwise, subject to statutory rights (particularly the discrimination prohibitions under the Civil Rights Act)

 

They shouldn't and thankfully they don't. The government needs to step in.

 

Let's not confuse your libertarian utopianism with reality. Insofar as there is no constitutional right to own or operate a business, there is no right to make specific business decisions. You do not get to decide which laws and regulations you want to ignore as a business owner and still retain your access to the public. legislatures enjoy a healthy amount of discretion to regulate commerce and governmental agents suspend or close businesses all the time for violations of civil rights, environmental, tax, labor, fire, building and consumer laws and municipal codes as long as they are not arbitrary or capricious about it and the law cited had better clearly say what government agents claim it says. Of course it is more profitable to fine the hell out of the disobedient and recalcitrant upstarts, but whatever.

 

lol. I didn't bother to click or read because I knew that it would be a total lie.

The usual suspects, doncha know.

 

I agree this in another ridiculous act by Republicans. Once again, they have a majority and use it for petty things. I hope this bites them in the ass.

 

That isn't 100% true. But you're also missing a big issue. Prove that I a business fired you because you are black or what ever the case may be. Especially in at will state.

 

You guys are the ones trying to force other people to pay for your birth control. Don't talk to me about leaving people alone.

 

LOL, yes, but sometimes the dishonesty is too much to resist.

 

Maybe this wouldn't be an issue if progressives didn't make businesses pay for birth control?

Yeah you see how that works?

This has nothing to do with woman taking birth control and eveything to do with who is being forced to pay for it.

Of course progressives believe its unresonable for people to pay for their own contraception.

This country would be on a better track if progressives didn't argue that everyones lives should be subsidized by the government or employer.

Reason #99 to hate progressives.

 

I agree 100% with you, the market can fix discrimination better than any law can. Employers should be able to fire for any and all reasons they want to. They will have to deal with the monetary consequences of their actions.

 

That's your answer. Really? In this scenario the only rights you have are the ones you can afford to pay for. Why should I or anyone else have our money taken from us to pay for your protection when the best protection is to be abstain from whatever it is that will cause you to get an STD or knock someone up? Your indiscretions are YOUR indiscretions, not mine, so don't make me responsible for them. Having sex is a choice. Since when do I have to pay for your choices? Got that Shirley?