Video Compilation of Baltimore Riots

I guess they will have to pull the trigger to find out. If they win the war, then they had the right. The victor always makes the laws and writes the history. I have a feeling this revolution won't get very far, considering the morons running the show.

 

I supposed right is a bad word. Let me rephrase the question. Do they have the liberty to do so? In other words, could they? Regardless of whether or not they get what they wanted, do they still have the 2nd amendment right to overthrow the government violently?

 

I wonder how any imbecile could possibly conclude that rioting and ruining mostly private property is a good way to conduct a coup.

 

Ummmmm, it has nothing to do with rights or laws or whatever. If someone is going to launch a revolution, they better have the support of a large enough group of armed people to finish what they started. If they win, they had the right, liberty, whatever. If they win, who is going to say they did not have the liberty? They succeeded, right? I'm not sure what you are getting at. If they lose in their revolution, they will be fully prosecuted by the government they revolted against.

 

Disregard what could happen afterwards. Whether they were right, wrong whatever. Do they have the right as American citizens to use their guns against the state if they fell their rights are being violated by a tyrannical state?

 

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This guy has more sense than every single person rioting in Baltimore put together.

 

Their guns will decide if they are right. But they better win. Because a lot more guns will be pointing back. The thing with revolutions, is you need a majority to win, and you better know how to fight and shoot. These guys do not have the support necessary for a successful revolution. You are trying to get me to say that it's not ok for them but it is ok for white revolutionaries or whatever. My advice is the same for whites, tea parties, nazis, hippies, whatever. If you are going to launch a revolution, you better win, or you will be destroyed in the aftermath. Firepower and strategy are what makes a revolution right. It requires popular support, careful planning, preparation, and execution. This little riot will never make it to the level of revolution. It is lead by morons. If they managed to overthrow the government, then they had the right to. They won. Do you get how it works now?

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Absolutely. Impressive.

 

Brilliant reply; but no, such pie-in-the-sky, all feeeeeeeeeelings posters can never comprehend the cold, hard logic that you just laid down. For one thing 98% of them not only never wore a military uniform but considered anyone joining up to be both a loser and an idiot -- not that THIS particular poster is necessarily of that perspective. Let's just stipulate a generic college student type person who has never had a clue how the real world works and what little he or she (generic type, yes?) learned about such things in college usually came from fellow clueless students or from college professors who decades ago turned on and dropped out and consider Saul Alinski the last words in both philosophy and ideology.

But every reader Right of Center perfectly understand what you are saying. That comes of being grounded in the real world.

 

I've got no faith in the system either, and that includes both parties. Both serve monied interests in the end, and every president and candidate since Bush Jr. and Cheney exemplify this.

The only solution I see to it is less central governmental focus and control. Our country certainly didn't start out like this, with a huge, highly controlling federal government and a two-party 50-50 deadlock every two years with extremists on both sides. We were once a federation of states, states that had much more autonomy than they have now. States that even had (on paper) the right to secede from the union.

I think the way forward is back. Back to our beginnings, but carrying with us many important lessons from the present so that we're not regressing socially or repeating awful mistakes. Just back to limited government with state and local autonomy, and with this responsibility, so that we're actually focusing on our own communities again instead of begging a giant power structure hundreds of miles away to make everything right for us.

 

Feel free to source something that shows that the purpose of the Constitution was to provide for "orderly change".

 

It was not the purpose of the constitution, but rather an ability given.

Just because things can change doesn't mean they should.

 

Kranes56- you claim you're no liberal and yet you parrot the same thing they do. How is "conservatism" too strong in the US? Do you think that those rioting in Ferguson and now Baltimore are conservative? They're as liberal as liberal can be- liberal to the extent they are probably more juvenile than you are even when you are still young.

Ferguson and Baltimore are liberal cesspools. They are anti-authority (destroying police cars, standing on top of them, taking selfies of themselves having "beaten" authority), anti-family (look at all the "yoofs"), anti-conservative and full of people who think they can do what they want, when they want, obey no law and destroy the very society that keeps them alive on welfare payments. The law is just something that should be broken and the attitude of entitlement is a way of life, to these people.

As someone who is probably "in your generation", I'll also say you know nothing. No government should work with a generation where an absurd percentage doesn't know the country in which Ebola or the Islamic State are, and well over 10% who can't even work out where their own country is on a map. What happens when "our generation" becomes the government?

This whole "riot" is a failure on every ground imaginable. A failure of liberal government that has controlled that same city since 1967, of police, of "yoofs" who are incapable of anything but failure and of their parents for raising them- or who probably were already that way themselves. The only thing that hasn't failed is the welfare system that keeps these worthless morons alive at the expense of better peoples.

 

The Constitution's purposes are in the preamble. All of them require change of some sort from time to time

 

Doesn't mean they shouldn't either. Life is a process of change, and anything that doesn't change at all is dead, so there must be some change

 

With all due respect young man, if you read about the 2004 election in third grade, then you sure as hell aren't the 'generation raised on the civil rights movement.'

 

Looting and burning buildings is not fighting tyranny. The facts of the case havent been released yet and these idiots are rioting and you are defending it..

 

This is the kind of protests which bring about social change....


Hundreds of thousands of dignified and deserving people speaking with a common voice demanding equal rights and justice.


...and this is the kind of 'protest' which rips apart and burns to the ground, the gains and progress their predecessors fought for.

 

Strangely enough it seems many view both as the same....

 

Yes. They are stupid. But, even worse, they fanned the flames. The death of the young black man that triggered this was awful, but it should have been a local issue. More whites are killed by cops than blacks, and this is becoming an excuse for young blacks to riot. There is no defense for this sort of action. Cummings should NEVER have gone to the funeral. Just as Holder and Obama should NEVER have insinuated that Trayvon was anything more than a local issue.

The actions of this Administration are creating increased racial tensions and there is no justification for this. By attending these funerals - by Obama saying that Trayvon could have been his son - by jumping to the defense of Michael Brown - all of these reactions give credence to the idea that it's somehow the fault of whites every time blacks act out.

Obama and his ilk are nothing more than a poison to our nation and our communities. I hate to say that - but here we are again - looking at the fallout.

Ridiculous!

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You can just bet MLK is rolling in his grave.

 

This seems pretty tame, its a good job the rioters aren't cartel members otherwise there would mayhem. they killed 15 police officers recently in an ambush in Jalisco, mexico.

 

What are you talking about? Of course looting and burning is fighting tyranny. Revolutions are violent (usually). It's a tactic to get attention to a cause.

 

It was Times 4 Kids article. What I meant was that my generation was the generation raised on the idea of equality, through and through. Diversity, accepting others. These were ingrained into us. The 1980's didn't have that, it was still a time when diversity wasn't accepted. My generation was the first to learn of the failures of the Civil Rights and apply them.

 

As much as I would like that to happen as well, there's something even more fundamental that has to happen first. We have to be willing to take more personal responsibility first. We have to become better citizens in order for us to take that step. We gave the power of governing to the government, but we've become lazy about it. Voter turnout, political apathy is the norm for today. The government can do what it wants to do because no one is watching them, telling them to play by the rules. If we want to get the government under control, and not have to keep doing it every time they do something wrong, we have to become better citizens first.

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You're not really answering my question. I don't care about what happens during the coup, the revolution. It's before that's the question. Do you know the Pro-2nd amendent argument that says that the reason citizens need to have access to guns in order to protect themselves from tyranny?

 

If you haven't noticed yet, NEITHER party cares about the actual citizens until election day. They are ALL out for complete globalization which will in turn kill off the middle class. It's their plan, they know this but lie to us to lull us to sleep. They want to be the elites who have it all and don't have to live by the same rules as us serfs. The ONLY thing that can be done is a citizen revolt.