Video Compilation of Baltimore Riots

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  1. BroncoBilly

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    Magic the Gathering, it's a card game that involves strategy and cunning where only the best will emerge out on top. Basically it's a game that geeks and nerds play when they're bored. It's a fun game though.


    "Federal law permits children to work in agriculture from younger ages and for longer hours than any other industry.

    A recent report by the advocacy group Human Rights Watch documents the exposure of children working on tobacco farms to nicotine, toxic pesticides, and other dangers. Half of American-produced tobacco is grown in North Carolina, and the report documents children in the state getting sick while working and not having sufficient access to protective gear or water. "
    http://wunc.org/post/child-labor-north-carolina-tobacco-fields
    [video=youtube;0-8TBceaO5Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-8TBceaO5Q[/video]

    How about another minority? Race was different back then because it took into account where you were from. It wasn't just white, it was Irish,German, Russian, Slavic etc. Yes, minorities owned businesses but that doesn't mean that they were the massive and powerful corporations that existed at that time.

    I'm interested in seeing why and how many of those survived following 2008. Here's why:
    "The Survey of Business Owners defines black-owned businesses as firms in which blacks or African-Americans own 51 percent or more of the equity, interest or stock of the business. Additional reports from the survey highlighting other minority- and veteran-owned businesses will be issued over the next year. Subsequently, separate publications will be issued highlighting additional characteristics of all businesses and their owners."

    It doesn't mean that an African American rose from the bottom up, it could just simply mean that one black business person decided to invest a lot of money in a business.

    It doesn't make it any less right.


    That's not what you claimed though. Also not a liberal. I'm a moderate with collective Anarchist leanings.

    Words aren't racist, why you said it is.

    It's not the word it's intention behind it that matters.

    My brother's keeper program. Right off the top of my head.



    You can say whatever you want to say yes. But phrasing of it will matter more in the end.


    That was nice burn. Good for you.
     
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    Which changes none of the following.

    Voter ID was prudent then and more so now and has nothing to do with race, it's about citizenship.
    The government is not trying to keep any Citizen from Obtaining ID, in fact government goes out of its way to help where help is needed even going so far as to wave the fee when necessary.
     
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    How do you get Photo ID for voting?
     
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    How can it be a racially based policy if it applies to all citizens unless all citizens are of one race?
     
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    Let's say that a group of friends are eating pizza together. Everyone can eat it, but the friends decide there's not enough to go around (even if there is), so they decide that they're going to distract one friend while he tries to get a pizza. Substitute friends with race and pizza with policy and that's how that works.
     
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    Same way you get ID for driving or buying liquor. Normally via the DMV.
     
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    Thats just coming off like a sloppy cop out.
    No offense intended.
     
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    So what's the process? I can't very well say "My name is JWBlack, give me a license."

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    I am tired. Long day with next to no sleep the night before.
     
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    I hear yuh .

    I'll throw you a quote from a movie I like, hopefully you won't take it the wrong way.

    --Officer Dix:(*)For the second time, y'all got jacked by Santa Claus?

    Day-Day:(*)Yeah.

    Officer Hole:(*)Black guy, wasn't it?

    Day-Day:(*)No, this was a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) that did this.--
     
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    I like it. But I'm tired, I'm going to go to bed.
     
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    We are talking about black Americans, not other minorities, and you make it sound as if we talking about the 50's, this is less than a decade ago, and Obama has done little to nothing to further help black Americans, other than give them free taxpayer money. The conservative philosophy has always been a hand up instead of a hand out, and it works every time

    You are trying to move the goal posts. I was addressing black Americans and what the census bureau found

    Making it right is subjective in this case, and you again trying to redefine what the constitution says

    Then in your mind, Obama is a racist now. I personally find the words "liberal progressive" offensive, but it doesn't mean society is going to do anything to change that.

    That is one in 6 years, and it does have merit since he got Bill O'Reilly involved. It is way too soon to see if there has been any success with the $350 million invested.

    Actually, what will matter in the end is how much time you waste thinking about how I phrase something
     
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    To me protest seems rational when ever a healthy young person dies in police custody. The rioting was an excuse/opportunity to loot for many of them.
    :salute:
     
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    I don't follow your logic here. I assume you mean the laws requiring photo ID to vote is the policy in question, or in other words the "pizza". Any way where does the distraction come in? Are you saying people are distracted from getting a photo ID? How is that done? I thought all you had to do to resolve any question about how to vote was to call or visit your local supervisor of elections. If someone can't do that they have more serious problems than not being able to vote.:salute:
     
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    Sure it's rational once the facts are know, before having the facts it's irrational.
     
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    And the result will look as follows:

    Burned out areas like Baltimore and Ferguson

    Ruined cities like Detroit

    Ruined nations like South Africa

    FUBAR nations like Zimbabwe

    And FUBAR continants like Africa
     
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    what is fubar?
     
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    fouled up beyond all repair
     
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    Did America look like that after its revolution? How about France after theirs?

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    The pizza is the voting, the distractions are the Photo ID laws.
     
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    Actually we haven't seen Conservatism in a long time, we've been dealing with Neo-Conservatism now since Reagan. Conservatism and Neo-Conservatism are two different things. As for the minority point, it doesn't matter the color, so long as one race was for discriminated against for simply being that race, then we have a comparision that can be made. The details can change, but the same structure can still exist.


    Moving the goal posts doesn't mean spotting the holes in your example.


    And?


    How is Obama a racist?

    If the point was to find out what he has done, then that would be a good example. If we also look at Loretta Lynch, there's another.

    Yelling hello versus whispering hello is different things. Phrasing matters.
     
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    You need to learn the difference between neo and con

    neo:

    The term "neoconservative" refers to those who made the ideological journey from the anti-Stalinist left to the camp of American conservatism.[2] Neoconservatives frequently advocate the promotion of democracy and promotion of American national interest in international affairs, including by means of military force, and are known for espousing disdain for communism and political radicalism.

    con:

    Conservatism as a political and social philosophy promotes retaining traditional social institutions in the context of the culture and civilization. Some conservatives seek to preserve things as they are, emphasizing stability and continuity, while others, called reactionaries, oppose modernism and seek a return to "the way things were"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

    I'm using the left loon example of saying the word 'thug' is racist. Obama called the rioters thugs

    What does Lynch have to do with helping black Americans? You had one example, but you leave out the fact that exacerbated tensions among races in America, starting with his stupid comment on the professor breaking into his own house and then trying to smooth that stupid comment over with a beer summit

    Here is a video that is spot on correct, which I know you won't agree with, but do yourself a favor and watch it

    [video=youtube;xl7Q36V9pg4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl7Q36V9pg4[/video]
     
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    Like how Reagan supported the Contras in Nicaragua or how Bush invaded Iraq? We haven't had Conservatism in a long time. Neo Cons aren't actually in favor of Democracy, rather why not keep being powerful? If that means using force to justify actions abroad, then do it. It doesn't also mean they can't borrow ideas from each other. They're both conservative socially there's no question about that. But to say that Conservatism is the same, then remember that Conservatives don't want change. Why invade another country and over throw him? That disrupts things at home, and produces change. Change isn't good for Conservatives. Neo Cons are okay with that change because they know that the people will be more willing to listen to them, especially if it means that goods and services cost less as a result.

    Ok and?


    Ever had a hero?

    Yeah as much as I would like to believe that he started it, just remember who the Birthers were again. It's not Obama that caused this, I would say that right has been fueling the flames ever since he got into office.
    How objectivist of her argument. I don't really have a problem with it. Sounds like a fine argument to believe. I could think of counter arguments to it, but I'm sure she factored them somehow into her argument.
     
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    Well I honestly can't think of anything else to add that will convince you that you are wrong, because it wouldn't matter, and you wouldn't believe it anyway.

    Let me just end with the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that has been fed to you liberals, conservatives are hardworking decent people that believe in limited government, and helping people to help themselves. The vast majority of us are not racists, women haters or homophobes no matter what the liberal loon lies you are fed

    I will make the donation to this forum in the name of agreeing to disagree. This forum needs the funds and it has been fun, until the next round of disagreement :smile: BB
     
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    American Revolutionary freedom fighters, were not crazed socialists like the Jacobians, and didn't behead tens of thousands. They also didn't burn down their cites and riot like the crybaby liberals of today.
     
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    No, they just confiscated Tory property and refused to pay for it, kind of going against what they stood for in the first place, and then we killed them. Also, remember the French revolution was born out of the exact same ideals as the American one.

    What are you talking about? They rioted like crazy. Boston Massacre was a big demonstration that was turning into a riot. There were plenty of riots back then against the British. The reason they didn't burn things down was so they could sell by confiscating property.

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    Alrighty then, let's not argue next time to debate one another for the sake of choicing sides. Next time let's try to understand each others positions clearly and accurately. I would say that's the best thing we can do then.
     

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