Police Militarization

I didn't say out of the box AR-15s, I said modified. And I hope you know that M4s and M16s are variants of the AR-15. You can customize it similar to M4 or 16 specs pretty easily.

 

I get the feeling that us cops are just fat little wimps who like to act tough. But I don't know.

Do you think that's fair?

After all the military wore this stuff and used these weapons because they're defo going to get blown up etc.

Are the police scared? If so are they really justifiably scared?

What do you think?

 

Prepared to fight against the well-regulated militia?

 

Why????

 

Why do I think 300+ fully automatic weapons, half a dozen armored vehicles and 3 helicopters are overkill in police departments with ~150 officers, in cities with relatively low crime rates? Hmmm, let me think...what could it be...

...Gee, I don't know, maybe you are right. Perhaps Mayberry needs to be able to arm each and every officer with two fully automatic assault rifles so that they can roll up in their vehicles designed for the battlefield to meet Otis the drunk will sufficient firepower to really show that sumbich what's up. You've convinced me; having small city police forces decked out like a company in the US Army is definitely the way to go.

 

The fact is that it is the philosophy of policing in America that is the problem, not the weapons. The police forces and the government that controls them have lost all credibility and trust of the people. The police now consider the people of the US "the enemy" and act accordingly. The American people need to realize that the next person to be falsely imprisoned or killed may just be them.

 

When you have a growing number of cities that seem to be moving closer to third-world/uncivilized status, and those cities are ruined by their inhabitants; those inhabitants a part of this degrading mess called "the people", how could law enforcement not look at "the people" as though they aren't an enemy? If they can ruin a good, say, dozen cities, why not any number of other cities?

You're talking about people who run into the situations other people run away from. They aren't going to be a bunch of liberals who support the kind of policies that weaken their own power- I'd want automatic weapons and body armour too if I were with them.

 

No question this Government who have been infiltrated by Obama-likened
commies are up to something.From the Over 2 Billion rounds of mostly Non-military
ammo they have secretly purchased and denied doing so to the same secret
logistics behind the covert yet outted paramilitary plan of Jade Helm exercises
starting in June,the American people are being used as possible clay pigeons.
That or Internment camps under Martial Law unauthorized maneuvers.
Which explains why our Military has been emasculated and replaced by power hungry
Females like a Janet Napolitano.Its Trojan Horse time ... folks.
Gee Mommy ... I can't wait.
Will they offer peanuts and popcorn like at the ball park ... Mommy ?
Yes,Tommy.That and a whole lot more.

 

And there you have it...the police should be decked out like infantrymen because "the people" are the enemy.

Can't make this stuff up...

 

lol

Do you really think criminals are like "Nooooppppeeeeeeee, we shouldn't acquire some automatic weapons because the police can match it!"LOL Criminals commit crimes because they believe, in their minds, they will get away with it. Crimes are committed everyday, some 75% of which are with handguns. If your imaginary arms race was true, we would see more crimes committed with long guns, rifles and shotguns.

Police do not need APC's. Police do not need grenade launchers. Police do not need automatic weapons. Police do not need SWAT teams to take down an elderly gentleman who refuses to take his meds. Police do not need to shoot someone's dog. Police do not need to shoot a car 100+ times when the occupants are unarmed.

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How many civilians commit a 01 felony and modify their AR-15's? LOL

Citation needed.

 

Go watch the North Hollywood shootout again to refresh your memory.

Go watch the video of the soldier that ripped off an Army tank and was driving it down the freeway.

I'd bet if it were one of your loved ones that got gunned down because the police weren't capable of stopping someone that you would change your mind very quickly but then again maybe not.

A few innocent deaths are an acceptable risk to protect the thugs doing the killing right?

 

Looks like incidents in Baltimore and Ferguson should have been addressed by the US Army from the very beginning. People who openly violate the law veiling their lust for destruction and greed with high-minded purposes deserve the harshest treatment allowed by the law.
However, I am worried about the divide between 'we the people' and men who are supposed to protect us from ourselves.

 

As far as I know, it's not a felony or against the law in my state and a few others. I know people who modify their ARs like that, and most of my family is military.

So my citation is personal experience.

 

Can they somehow ... encourage ... black people to go be cops?

The black community gets so angry that "all" the cops are white, however we keep hearing from almost every station that they have barely any applicants. It would be great to see this as a possible outcome of all this stuff going on.

Go out and draft a certain amount of blacks from each community to become police offices to help create a bridge between the police and their communities which appear to hate them so much.

Also, I wish black people would use this to actually not be racist in this movement and include everyone. Numerically, more whites are killed than blacks every year but the only signs we see are "black lives matter". Minorities would gain a lot more support if they appeared to be seeking equality instead of simply tilting things in their favor. When someone wrongs you or takes advantage of you, turning things around and taking advantage of them back is known by most people simply as revenge.

Too many people see revenge as a way to pay back blacks for how they were treated in the past. Instead of making things equal, we tip the balance in favor of the minority creating a whole new list of problems created by doing exactly what we all don't want, using racial division.

 

There was a reason why people always feared mercenaries: they were violent arrogant scum. Looks like police is becoming more and more like that.

 

No. The black community does not support its community members becoming police officers. They are regarded as rats, snitches, and traitors. They are hated even worse than white police officers.

 

Your personal experience is wrong, so you should stop passing incorrect information as factual as your information will land someone in Federal prison for ten years.

To modify your AR-15 to an automatic, you need a very special manufactures license. You must have a business with a 01 FFL for X number of years. Then you jump through the hoops of a Class III license. You may only create these samples for military and law enforcement. No citizen in the United States may legally procure or possess a post 1986 automatic weapon.

It is very much a felony to just modify your firearm into an automatic weapon. It is also not easy, the receivers for the AR-15 will not accept the trigger parts from the M4 or M-16.

 

That was what... 24 years ago? Why are you bringing it up like it is a point when I brought it up first? LOL

I was completely unaware than an M4 had armor piercing capabilities.

How lives are saved by police having access to automatic weapons? lol

What is wrong with semi-automatic firearms?

 

Small town police forces don't need MRAPs.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ce-military-surplus-purchase-debate/10221551/

 

So what if it was 24 years ago.

Are you implying that it couldn't happen again?

You are actually ok seeing police officers being slaughtered just to satisfy some political opinion of yours?

Sickening

 

One of my sons is a Deputy sheriff. He carries a .40 cal S&W, but has a AR-15 Semi-auto and a 12 Gauge in the trunk of his cruiser. I don't believe that he's overly armed.

 

yeah....and no evidence for these silly claims.

 

Which would have never occurred, had the two perpatrators not been offered a plea deal. They faced the possibility of more than ten years in prison. Instead they spent ninety days in jail, despite possessing illegal improvised explosive devices. They then petitioned the court to return their firearms to sell in order to cover legal fees, and the court complied.

 

I think the military should have military equipment, and I think that civilian peace officers should have the same weapons available to all other civilians.

 

Yeah, you're right. Asked, turns out the ARs I've seen are pre-ban, so they're technically legal. Wasn't aware you couldn't do it to modern ones, never tried it myself so I didn't check the specific laws about it. Thanks for the correction.