Black Man vs White Man Carrying AR-15 Legally

does that include the army and police? because they are technically gangs and some would argue criminal also.

 

Principled conservatives???

Oh noooo...we're not RACISTS, the cops were just treating the white and black so EXTREMELY differently because of uh...their hairstyles...that's it, dreadlocks are just passe and the cops were just being uh...fashion police,...that's it. Why how DARE you think it was racism.. REVERSE DISCRIMINATION, REVERSE DISCRIMINATION

Uhuh, no racism here, not us

Conservatism is UnAmerican at its core. The same classism, bigotry and worship of a "nobility" that most of our ancestors fled from. Wrap whatever you want in the Flag, it will smell the same

Examples ??? How about the OP and most of the replies by conservatives here?

This is about the most obvious and egregious example of racism I can even think of, well, beyond an actual lynching or just shooting the guy, and I now have to wonder if conservatives wouldn't defend that too. Man up, as you always so love to tell liberals, if you ARE being racist, ADMIT it, stop trying to just deny the facts so clearly put before you.

 

definitely the cornrows. a true sign of a rebel.

[video=youtube;okFznac7Lts]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okFznac7Lts[/video]

 

Where is the outrage from the pro gun anti government right wing crowd in this forum????????????

Why aren't they calling for the same type of action taken by their fellow right wingers in Las Vegas when tax dodger Cliven Bundy protested???????????

 

they are somewhere practicing their double standards.

 

Well, the second example is out of Sun Valley Nevada. Nevada does indeed allow open carry, They do reserve the right to detain individuals. If you go to the wikipedia entry, it is listed as "permissive." Oregon is listed as "anomalous," so they are not the same laws. Mr. Truth is a liar. Under permissive, wiki says:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry_in_the_United_States

I still agree the cops were incorrect in action, but two different jurisdictions is a misleading way to make such a point.

 

Another myth.

It was liberals who were making that claim after Obama was elected in 2008. Go back and read CNN and MSNBC transcripts from November of 2008 through April of 2009.

Unknown to the political left at the time, Obama was taking America back to the 1960's.

 

Yet another asinine race obsessed thread.

I don't know which is worse, the conservatives who constantly go on about how since some blacks are animals then they all must be, or the liebrals who use race to put down conservatives and force blacks to be a slave to their party.

Screw them both.

i want to get on a spaceship and leave this pos world to its own destruction.

 

Good bye!


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Still, we have not heard very much from the forum right wingers who are such big gun rights supporters.


Let's see them calling for the arrest and prosecutions of those cops. After all, had it been a white guy you would demanded no less.

 

Just like that?

Maybe you should verify the actual story, instead of parroting someone's agenda.

And why do you think that is?

What facts do you have to support that contention?

What video do you have for Sun Valley Nevada not treating whites the same, or for black residents of Albany Oregon being detained?

You have no proof.

Just your partisan viewpoint by race.

People like you are the problem, propagating lies of racism where it doesn't exist. You take anything that can be construed to be racist, true or not, and argue it is.

We will never be a colorblind society, as long as there are race baiters like you.

 

As has been pointed out....not enough information is provided regarding this video that was presented.............what state was it in? what was the disposition of the case?

 

Well....you are making a judgement without the facts of the case.....aka was the first policeman on the scene with his gun drawn responding to a call about the black man with the gun and what information was given to the policeman or did he just happen to see the black man walking down the street?

You cannot blame the policeman for taking a precautionary stance...aka pulling his gun out, ordering the black man to the ground, and waiting for backup...all just common sense.

Also it is not known what state this was in...what were the laws regarding openly carrying weapons? If this event ocurred in a state where it is legal to openly carry weapons and the policeman just happened to see the black man walking down the street with a weapon and there were no extenuating circumstances or complainst and or if the policeman had no reason to think the black man was suspicious other than the fact he was carrying a weapon then the policeman was at fault....and he should not have drawn his weapon if had no reason to believe the black man was a threat other than the fact he was carrying a weapon....it would be interesting to know the disposition of this case and all the facts related to it.

As it stands just too many unknowns to make a judgement on this case.

 

Around 50% of gun violence is done by black men. Police are not stupid and are aware of this issue but it appears many are not.

[video=youtube_share;sSln6rqcGRs]http://youtu.be/sSln6rqcGRs[/video]

 

Well...this world is messed up...no doubt about it. However...if you think it is bad here....i can tell you a lot of places where it is much worse.

In America it is best to stay out of big cities.....where the crime is so rampant and the police are handcuffed by liberal city governments. Especially if you have children....most public schools are dangerous places in the big cities...only poor whites let their kids go to public schools in the big cities because they cannot afford to send them to private schools or home school them. Yes....this country has a huge problem with a certain minority...I would not call it a racial problem....just a problem with one particular group...do you ever hear of problems with Asians? No...primarily it is just one particular minority group that causes most of the problems and everyone knows who it is.

 

So far, all I see by this video is a lame attempt to indict the police for discrimination....which of course is a sham as the two incidents presented on the video were in different states.

I could set up a far more interesting video if i wanted to demonstrate real racism..........have a white guy walk down any street in any inner city black neighborhood in America and have a camera follow him and see what he encounters.

Then have a black guy walk down any street in any white neighborhood in America and have a camera record what he encounters.....now that would be very interesting.

 

Actually I have heard of tensions between blacks and Asians, especially among the gang bangers.

 

Eric Rudolph, Gordan Kahl, David Koresh, and other organized anti-government, anti-cop dupes were all white.

 

They are in the other percent. Math. So difficult for some.

 

Not as simple as you might believe:



http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/15/opinion/frum-guns-race/


Guns offer equal opportunity tragedies. More than 8,000 white Americans had to be treated for nonfatal gun injuries in 2008. Eighty percent of those who commit suicide with a gun are white males. The gun that the suburban family buys to protect itself from "thugs killing thugs" ends up killing its own: One important new study finds that a gun kept in the house is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than to be used in self-defense ... The people who make up America count as Americans, and their problems count as America's problems. Their problems do not occur in isolation, but are manifestations of failures to which all Americans contributed together.




It is a societal problem, not racial.

 

Yes I can. Regardless if you think my points are ight or wrong, the police are to protect and serve. the way he had his weapon sling, the police copold have taken him down far quicker than he could have pulled off a shot should he have acted in a threatening manner.

It's obvious you don't know squat about weapons, to say that!

The man walking down the street did nothing to warrant the actions taken by the police.

That said, I see nothing wrong if they have just politely detained him.

Yes, the city and state is now known. I think you missed the point of what I linked and said previously. The laws allow detention. Still, the police action of the event was rash, and unwarranted.

So...

You support the police abusing their authoritarian powers...

OK...

Maybe you should just move to a Marxist country.

 

It still doesn't warrant for the police to treat him like a criminal.

I agree with profiling. It is fact that blacks commit more crimes. That isn't my concern.

My concern is this thread came off as claiming racism, but that contention is not supported because is isn't the same jurisdiction or law. This officer may have treated a white suspect the same.

No matter what one believes here, making him get down was a boneheaded move. For me, it speaks volumes that the police officer was one who likes practicing authoritarianism, or was a coward, and in either case, not worthy of the job.

 

different cities.

different police force.

different clothes.

gun carried in different ways.

stupid video made by stupid people.

 

Absolutely correct!

 

and very likely different states, which means different open-carry laws

 

Albany, Oregon vs. Sun Valley, Nevada.