Iran, six powers resume nuclear talks as June 30 deadline looms: IRNA

I'm amazed that, at this moment, there are 23 more days left until the DEADLINE imposed on the nuclear negotiations with Iran takes effect, and yet nobody is doing anything. I've rarely seen anything approaching this degree of importance so completely ignored by the "news" media....

The situation: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/04/us-iran-nuclear-idUSKBN0OK15720150604

Ever since the big, hooptie March 2015 DEADLINE was blown off by the Obama regime, and pushed out to the end of this month, all the Iranians have done is continue to scream, "Death to America" and denounce all the statements coming out from John Kerry, adding that they will never allow inspections of any nuclear site where they forbid it! http://thehill.com/policy/international/242628-iranian-leader-bashes-nuclear-inspection

So, besides joy-riding around in the lovely French countryside on a bicycle, what's our wonderous Secretary of State been doing to make certain the DEADLINE agreement has all the needed provisions and is ready to sign by not later than 23 days from now? Well, he was treated for a broken leg, gotten in the aforementioned bike ride. Anybody else have any idea what the HELL is going on...? The clock is ticking, and the credibility of the United States, which is already an international joke, doesn't show any sign of improvement under Obama/Kerry....

 

You think there is a deadline?
Doubt it.

 

No deadline?

Then what was it that all the parties to the negotiations agreed to when the March 2015 deadline was blown off? A new, cut-in-stone deadline of June 30, 2015: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/04/us-iran-nuclear-idUSKBN0OK15720150604 . I'm not making this up.

But it seems strange that with such an precedent-setting agreement of such pivotal importance hanging in the balance, that somebody influential (like maybe the United States of America) might be doing something besides getting into bicycle wrecks in the French countryside!

So nobody cares?

You WILL when, to your amazement and surprise before too much longer, the Islamo-Nazis of Iran formally announce that, yes, they DO have nuclear weapons. I wonder what we'll do then... have a few more bicycle wrecks...?

"Hey! First things first!"

 

Nothing is getting done because Iran is insincere and has no intention of following through on their end of the agreement. But, then, this is one of Obama's red lines... so nothing is going to happen.

Or, perhaps, every country in the Middle East is getting a nuclear weapons program now.

 

What's up with that? I think the MSM are a bunch of Nobama leg-humpers and since his retarded plan absolutely crapped the bed like grandma after a brick of ex-lax; they are laying low and refusing to report that the guy is a drooling butt nozzle that can't solve a rubic's cube, let alone world political issues.

 

There are multiple parts to a nuclear program. You need material, and you need knowledge and technology. Understanding how to make a nuke isn't that difficult - lots of countries did it, and we did it at a time when a scientific calculator would be considered high technology. But making material is rough. You need to either to mine a bunch of uranium-235 and enrich it (which was the basis of those early gun bombs like Little Boy) or I guess you could get snazzy and produce plutonium in a reactor. I don't know how hard it is to mine uranium, but I do know you need a lot of centrifuges once you have it out of the ground. I kind of think that's how Iran is doing it because I read they have 30,000 centrifuges. But a lot of countries can't mine uranium, so I have to assume those folks need to buy a nuclear reactor from Russia or France, then start producing plutonium that way. I figure you can probably bomb those reactors - not like they can be underground or anything. So I'm thinking the people to worry about the most are the ones mining uranium and centrifuging it.

 

It would be far better if we didn't need to bomb Iran (as it is, we will probably need them to defeat ISIS).

That said, if we were forced to use military means to stop Iran to keep them from obtaining nuclear weapons, I would favor bombing military targets and critical civil infrastructure on the surface. It's difficult to keep everyone focused professionally down in the deep bunkers when the mainstream population on the surface can't even get food, clean water, medicine, or even toilet paper. When their military installations are all gone, their water purification plants are gone, their hospitals are shut, and all their stores are closed (and the roads to get to them impassable because of piles of rubble), the enthusiasm their insane leadership has for nuclear weapons will diminish quickly.

"Requisition LOTS of toilet paper before we resume negotiations with the Great Satan!"

 

I guess at that time you can only go with a massive ground invasion involving a lot of allied countries. Or maybe not - maybe all you can do is announce they are a nuclear power and give up trying to do anything. But I think if Iran gets nukes in the area then we need to park a few dozen subs and a few carrier groups off their coast. What else could we do? And once Iran has a few nukes, I figure Israel will make a LOT more. I read she has like 100 to 400 (depending if you believe Janes, the CIA, or the FAS). I also read she has material to make a few hundred more at will. Another point worth mentioning - Israel definitely has chemical weapons. I kind of remember a flight to Tel Aviv crashing in the 90s and they found a couple of hundred liters of the stuff they make Sarin out of. So obviously they have been buying stuff and making Sarin for at least 20 or 30 years. And I do know they have a large offensive biological weapons program. Not sure how weaponized their stuff is though and not sure where a person could even find that stuff out.

 

Don't hold me to this; but I kinda remember reading they had like 30,000 or 50,000 centrifuges and they were building them hundreds of feet below ground and putting hospitals and elementary schools right above them to turn their citizens into human shields. Not sure where I can google that. It's like a decade old story. Here is the REALLY retarded way Nobama's simple mind works: they have a certain amount of power they need for the people. So they know how many centrifuges it takes to get that amount of u-235 to 4% for the reactors to power the country. So as long as they don't allow Iran to have MORE than that amount of centrifuges, then Iran won't be bothered moving it from 4% to 90%. I mean WTH??? So they do rolling blackouts and lower their requirements by 50%, and then they make a bunch of 90% u-235 and Nobama doesn't even know about it? Obviously they have this down "almost" to an art; since it was their scientists in North Korea running the detonation tests there over the past few years.

 

Well, heck anyone can get a mining permit in the USA and have all the access to open fields of radioactive elements out west. No one's checking.

 

Iran isn't a suburb of New Mexico so I'm not worried. Google says they have two mines: Saghand mine and Gchine mine. Sounds like we need to bomb those. Oh - and apparently they bought a lot of yellowcake from South Africa? Is SA still selling that to them? Or was that a one-time deal?

 

We are not going to bomb Iran even if they develop a nuclear weapon. This is a dog and pony show to stick a pacifier in Israel's mouth so they will stop whining about how they are going to do it even though the world knows they cannot. There will be no nuclear deal of any sort of any significance until there is the wider deal regarding the West Bank and all the other issues in the region, and even then, Iran will have nuclear weapons when Iran decides it wants nuclear weapons.

 

I don't know. I assume yes, South Africa is still selling yellowcake to Iran, 'cause no one told them to stop. And probably no one will.

 

If Iran goes to war with Israel, even if they have a couple of nukes; they will be wiped off the face of the earth. If Israel knows she is a goner, she will take the entire country of Iran with her, and probably Syria as well. Assuming that 200 nukes and a thousand or so chemical and biological weapons is enough to take out every living being in Iran and Syria, of course.

 

Wow, what a legacy that would be

 

Won't happen. The US would strike Israel if they started using chemical and biological weapons. The world needs oil more than it needs a Jewish homeland. Israel cannot marshal and deploy its weapons fast enough to stop it. They cannot even do damage to Iran's deep bunkers which is why they need the US.

 

The Samson plan is to take down all major capitals world wide, if the Israelis don't get what they want...... which is world wide control.

 

I thought it was 400 weaponized nukes some years ago, chemical & biological weapons are more likely to be used by the Saudis.

 

That would also result in much hatred & a worldwide pogrom against Jewish people, something I do not think Israel would risk.

 

The deadline is the time Iran uses its first A bomb.
Then Obama will say, I did not know, what could I do ? and sell the whole ME to the Iranians.
The only thing that will be able to stop the new Iranian Empire in the ME is Israel, Egypt and Arabia joining forces together.
Egypt providing the man power on the ground, Israel providing the technology and the Sauds providing the finance.

 

I agree, but why would you link WB to any of it ? Iran wouldn't care if Israel shrinks to just a few cities it will still oppose its existence.

 

Generally speaking.....one must have news to report before reporting the news.

 

Because I have seen/read interviews with officials foreign and domestic that indicated that there will be no real nuclear deal without there being a comprehensive middle east peace deal as part of it as Iran considers the WB issue a high priority. The nuclear deal is their only real bargaining chip to get the other things they want in a broad agreement.

 

Surely Mossad and the Shin Bet keep the details tightly under wraps, but I'm certain of only one thing -- the Israeli's aren't kidding when they say defiantly, "Never again!" When most Jews look back and reexamine the run-up to the Nazi exterminations, the question they ask themselves most often is, "...why didn't they see it coming?" Strange, but so many of today's Jews still adhere to overwhelmingly liberal viewpoints -- even though they should be able to see clearly what the cavalier neglect and ineptness of the Obama regime will surely result in. My prediction: June 30th will come and go without a concrete agreement with Iran. So, they "skate", and get more time to continue working frantically toward their goal of nuclear weapons. I wonder if afterward John Kerry will go for some more fun bicycle rides in Europe... in order to have something to do....

In all the bluster and bull(*)(*)(*)(*) coming out of Iran, one thing seems "cast in concrete" -- the fact that Iran adamantly defies "the West" on the issue of inspections. They absolutely forbid anyone to inspect anything in Iran that they don't want to be inspected -- period!

http://thehill.com/policy/international/242628-iranian-leader-bashes-nuclear-inspection
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/21/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-talks-inspections.html?_r=0

This is the point at which we must be able to tell them, "Oh, yes, you will permit inspections when, where, and however we wish, or we'll show you what we can accomplish with our latest generation of non-nuclear thermobaric weapons, right on top of your cities, military installations, and anywhere else we feel your attitude will be improved by a convincing demonstration."

But with our position represented by anyone in the Obama clown circus, it won't happen. All in all, Iran WILL have nuclear weapons one day, unless they are stopped by the one nation capable of doing it -- Russia!

 

Those interviews you read mentioned what Iran would consider a "peace deal" ? all I know is they opposed any UN resolutions that mention an Jewish state by any borders.

I still think they will get a Nuke eventually, I just don't see why Israel needs to try and appease them