What is the best way to deal with racial divisionist?

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  1. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I listen to the media, but I never fully trust it. Don't get me wrong. But there are a great many people who live and die by the media and what they say, so to not consider their positions means your losing a lot of what is being fed to the populace.
     
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    Already give you a laundry list.
     
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    Indeed, I'm all for giving this creep all the help he needs for (ideally) the month or two between now and his all expenses paid trip to Old Sparky.
     
  4. JoeSixpack

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    OK I said that wrong. I here them I just take most of what they say with a grain of salt. I can't think of any of the corporate medias that you could depend on to be truthful or honest.

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    Yep, he is way beyond the "needs help" for the sake of help stage.
     
  5. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I fully agree with this. Unfortunately they tend to drive the narrative, and the narrative will drive policy decisions by politicians. It's sad but it's true.
     
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    Being black is the only thing I like about Barry. Other than that, he is subversive and a traitor of the state.

    What would you accept that you would consider "proof".
     
  7. DarkSkies

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    Saying Barack Obama is racially divisive over and over =/= a laundry list. I respectfully request a reasonable example where the President of the United States, Barack Obama, has stoked racial tensions and divisions. I only ask because people say this, but I don't know what they're referencing.
     
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    I think it is the other way around myself. The propaganda is scripted for the media by the politicians and their real bosses. Then they claim that is what the people wanted based on what the media reports. It is a well orchestrated scam but a scam none the less.
     
  9. FAW

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    Because African Americans vote 90% plus for Democrats, the desire to increase African American turnout at the polls is obvious. The correlation with inflamed racial tension and increased African American voter turnout is also obvious.

    2012- The months leading up to the election. It is widely accepted at the time the upcoming election is likely to be very close, and pundits from both sides of the aisle are talking about how the election will likely hinge upon Florida. During this time, there is an obscure shooting in central Florida that is somewhat unremarkable. Out of nowhere, breaking all previous protocol regarding presidents commenting on local investigations, the President of the United States decides to make the comment that if he had a son, he would look a lot like Trayvon, thus putting this obscure incident into the stratosphere. Racial tensions were inflamed, this story remained front and center for the remainder of the election cycle IN the state thought to be the most crucial for winning the presidency, and racial tensions remained inflamed through that trial and beyond. This tension serves a useful purpose for Democrats because that same racial tension for obvious reasons increases African American voter turnout.

    Fast forward to the next election in 2014- It is known that Republicans are going to make big gains, and the potential for Republicans to take control of the senate is very real if not likely, and the bellweather race is widely reported to be Claire Mcaskill in Missouri. Out of nowhere, another relatively unremarkable shooting of a criminal resisting arrest occurs, and the president of the United States weighs in on the subject, once again thrusting that story into the stratosphere. Of course the facts of this case didn't really turn out to reveal wrongdoing by the officer, but that is largely irrelevant. Presumably these inflamed racial tensions once again increased African American turnout, but in this instance, it wasn't enough to stave off Republicans winning the Senate.

    Coincidence? I think not. The two biggest racial tension increasing incidents in the last 3 years, happened in the most critical states to the last two elections, and both were brought to stratospheric levels due to the President of the United States getting involved.
     
  10. phil white

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    I think it was a guy called Fred on Everything who wrote this a couple of years ago.

    "If integration were going to work it would have by now.":salute:
     
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    He employed an AG that said he wouldn't prosecute "his people" when the NBPP used threats of violence to intimidate voters, Obama supported the decision.

    Years later that same AG refused to prosecute the NBPP for acts of terrorism when they were building bombs and circulating police kill lists, Obama supported the decision.

    Obama went on nation TV to proclaim that if he had a son it would look like Trayvon, further inciting the Black rage. After the investigation found that Trayvon was a bruting thug their drug addict who bashed Zimmermans head into the ground did Obama go back on TV to let people know that his sons actions were wrong? No.

    When Mike Brown assaulted and robbed a convenient store then assaulted and attempted to kill a cop did Obama come out with words to calm the Black mob? No, he fueled their rage by calling for "justice" as if justice wasn't already properly delivered. When the hands up don't shoot lie was exposed for the lie it was did Obama try to calm the mob? No. When the rioting began where was Obama?

    And I won't bother typing out the Freddy saga because it's just the same thing. Black mob rages because Black thug gets himself dead while being thuggish and rather than step in as a role model Obama just fuels the fire.
     
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    Obama said that if he had a son, he'd look like Trayvon Martin. I'm not sure why this makes Obama a racial divider, but some people blame everything they can on Obama simply because of his skin color.

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    How did this incite "black rage"? It may have made racists angry, but I didn't see any increase in "black rage."
     
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    I don't know... His baby face and choir-boy haircut will earn him a lot of well-deserved attention in the slammer. I say lock him up with a big, lonely roommate (and no lube) for about 50 years.
     
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    People always demand proof but never acknowledge it in any way when it's shown to them.

    So demanding proof is stupid if they're not going to accept it and is just a red herring.

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    It makes him divisive because he is declaring the guy who shot him as guilty without looking at the full circumstances of the situation, just because the guy who shot him is white.
     
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    The former President, a Republican, also weighed in on race issues regarding the high profile cases. When presidents say something, at least the public knows they are listening...or at least pretending to. Presidents speaking or relating to high profile race cases are not stoking racial tensions. Moreover, Conservatives shared some outrage. Because of this, I don't see this as a reasonable example to say Obama is stoking any kind of tensions.
     
  16. doombug

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    First off it isn't just me who sees this. A majority of Americans agree with me:

    www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles...ace-relations-worsening-since-obamas-election

    Even the uber-liberal media agrees:

    www.nbcnews.com/politics/barack-obama/deep-racial-divide-remains-under-obama-n186211

    Take into account Obama's constantly weighing in on instances he deems as "racially motivated" but turn out to be not racially motivated and the incessant meddling of his "Justice"Department and it is easy to see where this racial division began to worsen. And do I really need to bring up Al Sharpton's many white house visits?

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    ....peas in a pod.
     
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    If you are going to set a standard that unless the president says " Go Kill Whitey", he therefore has not stoked racial tensions, then and only then can you claim he hasn't done so. For those of us living within the world of practicality however, the two examples I gave are THE quintessential examples of him stoking racial tensions. The president personally bringing vast attention to particular incidents that locally have stoked racial tensions, is in effect, taking those racial tensions and putting them on steroids, which qualifies as further stoking those same tensions.
     
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    Black groups are on the terrorist watch lists. That talk was for show and tell.

    Trayvon and Michael Brown are not the sons of Barack Obama. If they were, they would be in private schools with armed guards learning the way the world works. The only people responsible for the situations you listed were the people involved, their family members, their local law enforcement/their community. Somewhere in the distance is the President.

    The national guard was brought in for the rioting situation. The President of the United States is not responsible for local districts. The city and state governing peoples and institutions are.

    So these are not reasonable examples of Obama stoking any kind of racial tension. What is happening is there was already racial tension and the half black guy gets to be the scapegoat. Not reasonable.
     
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    This is exactly what it is. There is nothing reasonable about putting America's racial baggage onto this one man.
     
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    1. Be as dismissive as you want they committed two acts of terrorism and didn't get prosecuted for it. The reason for that is as clear as day from the horses mouth "I won't prosecute my people".

    2. We're not talking about who was responsible for the thuggery of Trayvon and Brown, we're talking about racial divisionism. You said provide examples as to how Obama is contributing to that and I gave you them.

    3. Not to get off topic here but that's not the attitude liberals had back during Hurricane Katrina when it was explicitly Ray Nagin's responsibility to direct emergency response, a responsibility he failed at but yet it was Bush who got hit with all sorts of race card race pimping race baiting nonsense from the left.

    4. They are examples, you just don't like them. And there was race problems before Obama and the recent plague of liberalism, and now thanks to Obama and the recent plague of liberalism ...they're worse.
     
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    Because he legitimized Trayvons thuggish brutality by portraying him as a victim.

    The Black mob got angry because they didn't see an assailant that met a lawful fate, they saw an innocent little angel future astronaut viciously stalked and killed by the KKK Grand Wizard.

    That was a scam pulled over on Blacks by somebody that should have been their role model, instead of their puppeteer.

    Then look what happened the next time a Black thug was lawfully put down.

    That rage came right back as the default reaction and was again amplified by Obama and his liberal media buddies.

    It took months to brew but we got a riot didn't we.

    Then the next time ...riot happened after a few weeks.

    They are harnessing and molding Black rage Pardy.

    Are you unable to see patterns and connect events over time?
     
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    Who is putting it ALL on him? No one is. But he is a part of the problem and being the president that makes him a bigger part of the problem than any single individual.
     
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    Yeah that seems to be when the racial division really took off. The liberal media and race baiters repeated a false narrative and still do to this day. It serves no one to lie just to try and push an agenda. In this case the ends do not justify the means.
     
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    They are saying that they see the divisions, but they are not blaming Obama for it.
     
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    The standard is to provide a reasonable example. For example, if Obama and Bush weigh in on race issues, but blame goes to Obama and not Bush, then it is an unreasonable example.
     

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