Why the Confederate flag still flies in South Carolina

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  1. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

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    You didn't answer my question, because you are unable to. Thanks for playing.
     
  2. Pollycy

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    Isn't the TIMING of this whole thing interesting...? Here we have a mental basket-case racist, probably boiling away on psychotropic drugs, who just happens to go to THIS church and commit this variety of cold-blooded murders. So, now all eyes are off the crumbling negotiations that are supposed to result in the meeting of a rock-solid DEADLINE in just SEVEN MORE DAYS for nuclear inspection agreements with Iran, and, all are eyes are on the 150 year old Confederate battle flag...? :omg:

    It also comes just as Obama has prepared a new socialist initiative to enforce "diversity" on everybody's neighborhoods -- spending who knows how much government money to move Blacks around into neighborhoods where they don't live and where they don't own property. Now, while this racist president has taken the advice never to let a crisis go to waste, he's once again "got Whitey on the run", and nobody dares say a word or they, too, will be branded as RACISTS.

    Somehow, this whole thing is assuming the dimensions of a very scripted, made-for-TV melodrama. The "Manchurian Murderer"...?

    [​IMG] "Helluva series of coincidences, ain't it...?"
     
  3. SourD

    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    What about the SEVEN states that use parts of that racist flag on their state flags to commemorate a war over racism? You ok with them? I mean they are THE state flags, not some flag meant as a memorial.

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    Like I said, go petition those states and let us know where you get. If the union is so important to the blacks in the south how come so many still live down there and didn't come up here where they would be more comfortable? I'll tell you why, it's ALL in your imagination.
     
  4. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No buildings are flying such a symbol... If you want to remove the flag due to racism then you need to remove the NAACP and NBPP since that's where the real racism is.
     
  5. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    First of all it is not this one incident. I've never in my life thought of the Confederate flag as anything other than a support for racism and bigotry. This one incident just shows it in full view to the world exactly how people view the flag. How you can use that flag as a symbol of being proud of being an American is asinine. It's actually the enemy flag, the losers against America. I've never heard that revisionists view of the flag.
     
  6. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Uh, no dude. Confederates were nothing like progressives are.
     
  7. bwk

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    I didn't realize anyone was asking you to take down the American flag?
    How is it they aren't loving their country as much as you do?

    No, that is not right, because blacks do not have their own flag like the confederates, when they shoot up a group of people. One has a flag when shooting people like Dylan Roof, and the others do not.
     
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    So SEVEN states are your enemy?
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not about winning and losing. It's about loving where you came from, and loving your way of life. I love where I came from. How many country singers you ever hear singing about big houses or rims or (*)(*)(*)(*) (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es make money how (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) ass tricks? Muny muny munyyyy rims and chains (*)(*)(*)(*)(*). Probably none. Because life isn't about that, it never was to me and it never will be.

    But that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Though, don't sit here and tell me what I think of the flag, cause you won't get far.
     
  10. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've been told the real view of the flag about 300 times in this thread. The view that it's racist is the alternative view, which is what you have.
     
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    To me it represents an American battle flag, nothing more.

    Ever U.S. Army and U.S. Marine Corps regiment has it's own regimental battle flag aka regimental colors. If Colors is capitalized it represents the National Colors, if it's lower case colors, is a battle flag.

    Are you aware that only one Army regiment has ever had it's colors captured by the enemy ? It happened during the Korean War.

    Since I was never indoctrinated in revisionist history I'm aware that the first Memorial Day honored both Union and Confederate soldiers who paid the ultimate price on the battlefields. They were all Americans.
     
  12. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Exactly. It's just the left using a crisis to their benefit to rid a flag that has a false meaning of racism. They couldn't care less about those people who were murdered.
     
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    Lol! You know where they will get, which is why you can't answer the question.
    I'll ask you once again for fun's and giggles. Forget what the blacks will get. Is it fair for them to have the Union flag fly in their name for their suffering in South Carolina, just as the confederate soldiers suffered while they have been flying theirs all this time? Yes or no? Details would be nice, but we all now you aren't able. Thanks again for playing!
     
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    How about a gangsta rapper ?

    According to the study, country music is the “smartest” genre lyrically, ... while today’s hip-hop could be fairly well-understood by a second-grader in the latter half of the school year. -> http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollyw...it-songs-average-a-third-grade-reading-level/
     
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    But you demonstrate racism by having it taken down... I don't really get your twisted thinking. How about honoring the dead from that church and leaving the flag out of it. Or do you think flags kill blacks like guns do?
     
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    You just told the revisionist's view of the flag. Congrats on being ignorant of true history.
     
  17. bwk

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    There are views and then there are facts. Facts matter the most, which is why Graham and Hailey figured out the best option. The Germans flew the Nazi flag at one time, but no more. Why? For the same reason the confederate flag should fly no more. I'm leaving the rest of my post blank, in the hopes you are able to fill the rest in, explaining my answer that you should already know.
     
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    Wikipedia really????? Generally speaking if they talking about actual Territories of the U.S. the term would generally be capitalized. It is clear however from the context that meant territory in the generic term hence the terms ANY and ALL. Again your argument is specious. Sounds plausible and but is factually wrong. You may be confusing their platform with what they campaigned on. As in modern politics the two do not necessarily match.

    I never suggested that the confederate state didn't want out. It is just the reason they wanted out. Revisionist history suggests state's rights and some general concept of Federal Governments usurpation of the Constitution. They were in fact just mad because an anti-slavery government was elected and they didn't like some of the Constitutional laws so they wanted to go home and take their ball with them.

    I quoted exactly where the Republican Party Platforms supports abolition.

    Again, individuals in certain states may have been violating "property" rights of southerners. It is important to note that the was NOT SUPPORTED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. So there was no violation by the Federal Government but yet the southern states used that as an excuse to secede. Also it is important to note that the Fugitive Slave Laws were unconscionable even by standards during that day and the people that violated the supposed "property" rights of southerners did so out true moral objection of treating a person as property. If that is the "moral" argument to be used in favor of secession then the whole secession movement has been proven immoral res ipso loquitor.

    I don't presume to know what Lincoln would or would not do. What I do know is that government should support or display the flag for any other reason other than in a museum.
     
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    The flag was added in the 60's as a retaliation of the civil rights movement.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America

    I'm a minority and I don't know any blacks that support the flag. A few won't care, but most do not support it. It's offensive to an entire race of people.


    You are a closet racist. Despicable human being. Now tell me how many "black friends" you have. Racist %#$.
     
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    How about a huge statue of Ulysses S. Grant?
     
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    That flag is just a piece of cloth that represents failure and the idiotic loss of life of young soldiers on an epic scale.
    Why would people want a reminder of failure hanging over their heads?
     
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    How so?
     
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    Dude, he is a racist.
     
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    I get it. So you go from LGBT hate, to juvenile questions, to rapper hate, while none of these things have anything to do with the confederate flag. I will have to admit I was wrong. This examination will require students from a much higher grade level to try and understand the depths of immaturity in your post, while trying to determine exactly what any of this has to do with the confederate flag. I'll try and get back with you as soon as I can to let you know what the examination reveals. But it could take a good while, so hang in there.
     
  25. bwk

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    I'm game! But is South Carolina? :smile:
     
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