For a change, how about an actual and honest discussion of Noah's Ark-

They possess an aversion to the idea that their beliefs are total bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

You know....I don't really have any problems with a person who want's to believe some Fairy Tale.

What I DO have a problem with is when they try to force others to BELIEVE WHAT THEY BELIEVE!!

This here is a Debate Forum so we can talk about such things but if I am on the street and I stub my toe and say......Damn it to HELL!

And this happened to me as it is not just an example.....and that's what I said....not so bad right?

So I thought.

I was wearing no shoes or socks as I was at the beach crossing the street that follows the beach and stubbed my toe as I has a few bags in my hands and was not looking where I was going and it hurt like HELL!!

This woman...about 40....with her daughter....about 15....looks at me and say's....."NOW BEG FORGIVENESS FROM OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST!!!"

I looked at her amd laughed a bit as I thought it was a JOKE.

NOPE! Not a joke. She was dead serious!!

Now all I said was Damn it to HELL!

So not wanting to turn this into anything I just said...OK...sorry I swore...forgive me.

She replies...."It is not I you must ask forgiveness from but GOD as it is the least you can do considering Jesus died upon the cross for our sins and....."

I said....LADY!! HOLD IT RIGHT THERE!!!

I told her that I had already apologized to you and I will now apologive to your....daughter?.....and the girl nodded and LOOKED MORTIFIED that her Mother was doing this! LOL!!!

So I said...."I'm Sorry if I offended you.....but DON'T EVER TELL ME WHO I MUST ASK FOR FORVENESS FROM ACCORDING TO YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!!"

She really irked me and as I walked away she said something about how I should this and that....and the whole thing made me realize that some people have no respect for others.

To me...saying what I did was not swearing...but I apologized anyways.

But there has been about 4 instances in the U.S. where people start telling you who and what you MUST believe in...and that P!$$E$ ME OFF!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Just believe in me, lol.

 

Not that hard to do!

AboveAlpha

 

To make the Flood Story "work"...the Believers have to have God set aside all forms of Natural Law.

But if God can simply "ignore" or "revoke" Natural Law....why have a Flood? Why waste time on physics, gravity, atmospheric pressure, etc. tricks....

Why not just KILL all the "wicked people" with one flick of his Divine Finger and skip the Flood???

 

Good question.

This is fun.


Dinosaurs Were on Noah's Ark, Says Creationist Ken Ham

Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/d...eationist-ken-ham-101701/#6QGEMqbAJB24Zxco.99

 

As we discussed on your thread, Creationists HAVE to say there were "dinosaurs on the Ark"....because Genesis says that Noah saved ALL the land animals on Earth.

If Noah had left the V-raptors, triceratops, brachiosaurs, T-rexes, etc. outside the boat, to drown?....Genesis would be in error.

 

How about sharks and whales and such.. I don't think they can live in freshwater.

 

Another trip up for the Ark Believers.....salinity content.

According to Genesis the Flood lasted between 3 months and a year (it's rather contradictory).......

now while some saltwater fish can exist for short periods in freshwater...and some freshwater fish can exist for short periods in saltwater.....many cannot. And most wouldn't make it 3 months, certainly not a year.

And "half fresh/half salt" doesn't work...it would interrupt vital functions for many oceanic species or for freshwater species. They'd either die...or become so unhealthy that they would be unable to reproduce.

Plus we also get back to both water pressure and water level habitats.....for instance....add FIVE MILES to the depth of the ocean and sea-life which exists on coral reefs...would perish.

1. The pressure of the water would kill them.

2. At five miles deep (the Flood level), no light and chilling COLD would destroy the coral reef as well.

 

There is so much wrong with the flood story if you are over age ten.

 

I got it Noah was a Time Lord! And the ARC was a Tardis with the Chameleon Circuit altering its external appearance. It didn't actually ride the water it went into the temporal stream until he came back and the flood waters was a temporal storm sent by the Dark Lord of Time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is-Gnyk4AWE



Seriously that much water is not on the planet people, unless you invoke magic or super-science like a TARDIS.

 

QUOTE FROM SIMPSON'S COMIC BOOK GUY......"AHHH....100 TACO'S FOR 100 BUCKS! THIS SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF SUSTENANCE TO GET ME THROUGH THE DR. WHO MARATHON!!!" LOL!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Not as DRAMATIC!! LOL!!!

Look.....the Flood Story came from an actual Flood Event in 5600 BC when the Higher in Elevation Med Sea flooded into a Massive Ice Age Depression and FRESH WATER LAKE....that is now known as THE BLACK SEA!!

The are of land that seperated the Med Sea from this area collapsed most likely due to an Earthquake or Sand Liquifaction and this allowed all the much higher in elevation Med Sea SALT WATER to FLOOD THE ICE AGE LAND DEPRESSION AND MASSIVE FRESH WATER LAKE....which is now known as the Black Sea.

We know this happened because we have Fish Bone Fossils that are from FRESH WATER FISH in the Black Sea area.

Now for any person who was living back then in that area such a FLOOD would seem like THE END OF THE WORLD and by the way....the area of land that collapsed between the two bodies of water is known now as the TURKISH STRAITS!!

Wasn't there some story about a Boat that was in a flood near Turkey and some Mountain?

AboveAlpha

 

NO FREAKIN' WAY!!!

SOME IDIOT ACTUALLY SAID THIS!!!????

This is the kinds of things that bother me....as instead of spending time LEARNING SCIENCE AND MATHEMATICS AND PHYSICS AND COSMOLOGY AND ASTRONOMY AND ENGINEERING AND BIOLOGY AND ANATOMY....ETC....

We actually have some LUNATIC trying to tell people there were DINOSAURS ON NOAH'S ARK!!!

AboveAlpha

 

It had three floors because each represented one if the three minds in our head, the Conscious, Subconscious, and the Unconscious.
The story makes sense as soon as we recognize that the actual facts were not able to be told except in this analogy.



My case for seeing the flood story as a factual account about what happened as modern man came to exist was based upon:
1) Genetic evidence proves man, by an Act-of-God, was evolved by a mutation which fused two of the 24 chromosome ape mother.
2) Then 22 "kinds" of humans are kisted in Genesis genealogy that correspond with the 22 names in the now extinct human species.
3) Then evidence shows that Noah had three breeds of sons 100 millennia before the great "flood out-of-Africa"
4) Then 40 millennia ago, these three breeds flooded the whole world, even up the mountains, while Neanderthals disappeared forever.
5) The genetic evidence supports this idea, that all people alive today are related to just one man who lived 40-60 thousand years ago.
6) Mitochondria genetics support the all people alive also had a common mother 150,000 years ago, as Gen 5:31 agrees.
7) The three breeds of sons compares well with the theories of breeding or racial identifications, and that further supports the story.
There is a "box" around the heads of Modern Homo sapiens, an "ark" which contains all the thoughts about the animals and the world as we know it.
This box was the idea of an Ark.

This list of corresponding facts and biblical ideas may be coincidental for you, but they were offered to us as explanation for what actually happened.
"Coincidence" is pretty far fetched when the details are reinforced by Genetics, and Anthropology, Paleontology, and Scripture, all agreeing here.

 

Yes............ LOLOLOL

 

You deists will say anything to explain this, and if its not literal there is one species of Homo Sapiens which is our modern human who bred with Neanderthals and other subspecies of humans this is proven genetically and by finding Modern Human-Neanderthal hybrid skulls. They also demonstrated the lost genes isn't lost genes fused ends into one this proven by modern genetics. Go see that excellent PBS series on this topic and learn something.

 

Heh. Humans and chimps are more closely related to each other than either species is to orangutans.

Ruh roh!

 

Sweet mother of god.

 

Your graphic makes me remember a pre-birth memory I had. I thought my consciousness was in the tail end of the spinal column and I was going to live out my life relaying signals to the higher brain.

But it turns out I had the map of my body all wrong, and I only learned about the error once my vision sense came into focus. Then I realized I was the top brain.

LOL!

 

This is especially stupid as god dictated the ark by made of chuck wood and covered with pitch.

 

It's kind of cool, though, that an ancient goat herder was able to fashion the central nervous system.

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Hmm. Maybe the Ark was actually a hand puppet?

 

UNREAL!!!

Hey Noah! It's YOUR TURN TO FEED THE T-REX!

This has got to be THE MOST STUPID, IDIOTIC, IGNORANT, INCREDULOUS, PERSON WHO SAID IT SHOULD BE SLAPPED SO HARD HIS MOM WOULD FEEL IT......CLAIM I HAVE EVER IN MY LIFE HEARD ABOUT!!!

LOL!!!!!

I am LAUGHING but in reality this claim is so sad I should be weeping!!!

You know.....I understand that not everyone is as well versed and as knowledgable a person as those of us WHO ACTUALLY READ, STUDY AND USE LOGIC AND MATHEMATICS AND CROSSREFERENCE KNOWN FACTS AND MATHEMATICAL PROOFS WITH THE CLAIMS OF OTHERS.....but......COME ON!!!!

I am going to create a concept known as the IDIOT THRESHOLD!!!!

In the same way that there exists a THERMOCLINE in water temps....and the same way there is a specific ESCAPE VELOCITY which must be obtained in order for a Missile or Space Craft using a system of propulsion....to escape EARTH'S GRAVITY WELL which WARPS SPACE-TIME AROUND THE EARTH....thus allowing such a Missile of Space Craft to not plunge back down to the Earth's surface..........

.........and in the same way there is a SET NUMBER OF DATES THAT HAS BEEN CREATED TO JUSTIFY SEX BETWEEN A DATING COUPLE......#3 Date.....by the way.....

........and there is 3 STRIKES AND YOUR OUT.....OR FOUR BALLS AND YOU WALK....rules in Baseball.....


........I AM GOING TO CREATE WHAT WILL BE KNOWN AS THE......IDIOT THRESHOLD!!!!


And I am stealing a little bit from George Carlin here.

Everyone in the WORLD.....will be tested to see if they have the basic necessary knowledge to be able to POSSES and carry AT ALL TIMES a Little SUCTION CUP DART GUN!!!!

These SUCTION CUPS will have an extremely strong adhesive upon the suction cup and when a QUALIFIED SUCTION CUP CARRYING CITIZEN see's another person doing something REALLY STUPID.....they just point the Suction Cup Dart Gun at a person and pull the trigger and a small suction cup dart will SELF GUIDE ITSELF and then attach itself PERMANENTLY to the FOREHEAD of any person doing something really stupid...and when it strikes and attaches to the forehead of a person doing a stupid thing a small flag will pop out the end of the suction cup dart with the word.....STUPID!!!

Now if this person does not get another suction cup dart flag shot onto his or her forehead withi the next 10 days....the sucktion cup dart will secrete a safe chemical that will detach the single sucking cup STUPID FLAG DART!!

But if within the following 10 Days this person get's another Suction Cup Dart Flag shot and atached to their forehead.....now the time will increase to 20 days before both flags will detach if they don't get shot with another again!!!

NOW......IF A COP IS DRIVING AROUND AND SEE'S A PERSON WITH AT LEAST 6 SUCTION CUP STUPID DART FLAGS ATTACHED TO THEIR FOREHEAD........

.......THE COP WILL STOP THEM AND ARREST THEM FOR BEING AN IDIOT!!!!!! LOL!!!


THUS.....the IDIOT THRESHOLD......is equal to 6 STUPIDITIES!!

HOWEVER......and ONLY THE IDIOT POLICE WILL BE ALLOWED TO USE THESE......is a COP see's a person DOING OR SAYING OR POSTING OR WRITING OR CLAIMING SOMETHING SO IDIOTIC THAT IT AUTOMATICALLY BREACHES THE........IDIOT THRESHOLD......an IDIOCY POLICEMAN can get a special FULLY AUTOMATIC TOILET PLUNGER SIZED SUCTION CUP DART LAUNCHER.....and PULL THE TRIGGER ON A CRIMINAL IDIOT.....AND IT WILL SELF GUIDE ITSELF TO COVER AND ATTACH ITSELF TO THIS IDIOTS MOUTH BUT NOT NOSE SO ALLOWING THE IDIOT TO BREATH BUT NOT TALK!!!

The CRIMINAL IDIOT with a PLUNGER will now have to go to an IDIOT DETENTION CENTER where the first thing he or she will undergo is a 6 QUART ENEMA......just to get rid of all thier BULL S#!#!!!

AboveAlpha

 

*Sigh*

We've been telling him this for too long.

 

I actually don't remember this bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I do however remember him claiming the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that "all the waters were gathered in one place" as evidence for pangea. Which if factually and demonstrably wrong:
1. The waters were not located in one place, they spanned the entire earth, from lakes, to rivers, to the ocean.
2. The waters were located in one place, the earth.
3. ^ Which is actually wrong as water is found throughout the solar system and the universe.
4. The Genesis account of the earth is factually and demonstrably wrong. No matter what silly bull(*)(*)(*)(*) you pull out of your ass.