Cincinnati police officer who shot man during traffic stop charged with murder

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  1. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the information.

    So this is a person that helps inflate black crime rates.

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    Yes he was look at 1:14. He asks what was he pulled over for and cop say tags in front.
     
  2. Steve N

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    And when he was told why he was pulled over did the cop shoot him because of it? He was pulled over for a traffic violation, he was shot because he tried to bolt with the cop right there in the window.
     
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    Doesn't sound like the kind of person who would panic over a traffic stop and try to run away with the cop standing there. For sure he's been there before enough times.
     
  4. Steve N

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    True. But we can only guess why he tried to run.
     
  5. DarkSkies

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    He never bolted. When the cop shot him in the head the corpse took over the steering.
     
  6. Steve N

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    Did the corpse put the car in gear?

    I don't think this is murder; it's tragic, but not murder. Personally, if I'm near a guy with a gun I'm going to do everything I can possible do not to have him shoot me, cop, thug or otherwise.
     
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    If putting the car in gear is a valid reason to shoot, why did the cop lie?
    Good for you. If you ever get killed by a cop, thug or otherwise, you'll have plenty of people here defending the gunman.
     
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    Maybe this is too Libertarian for some of you, but here's something to consider:
    This would not have happened if the law did not require licenses to drive.

    Any time you create a law, it takes law enforcement officers to uphold that law, and then they have reason to start intruding into people's business, and sometimes bad things can happen.

    Just something to consider. We should really ask ourselves whether all of these laws are really worth it.
     
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    When I said corpse, I meant a lifeless body was at the steering at the time of take-off.

    I don't disagree with the rest of your post. Surviving a life-or-death encounter is priority.
     
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    Here's what puzzles me. We've seen enough with police basically killing folks for stupid reasons--even jailing with minor traffic infraction.

    Here's what I don't see, but would like to see.

    How come no Governor, US Senator, or Representative, or even a member(s) of the press have asked maybe to set through the training that our future police officers attend. I don't think they are really getting proper training. And does the training they receive involve both psychologists/psychiatrists giving training????
    The press don't seem to have a problem showing up in foreign countries when we are at war, this looks like a war to me.
     
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    It's a bad deal all around. Two lives ruined. I will let the jury decided the fate of the officer as that is way our system works. Nonetheless, look at this decedent a little closer and his history of arrests, 10 children, booze in the car, etc. We see the effect here, but few see the cause.
     
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    Oh......there's gonna be a war......this is just the preliminary stage.
     
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    well if I remove my political and personal beliefs about what happened... and I simply read the laws and policies in place... this is a justified shooting... I know many people will not like me stating that, and I feel weird saying that, but according to the laws and policies, this officer WAS in a struggle, which elevated his legal authority in the situation, and once that vehicle moved while he was in the struggle, he is justified to shoot...

    what do I think should have happened? in an ideal world where things worked out perfectly (well lets be honest the man would have had his drivers license and not struggled with the officer in that world)... they would have magically let him go because "it wasn't serious"... and then later we find out that was the guy who was wanted for murder or something serious, and then we would complain why didn't the officer do more to stop him (ironic hey)... yes I live in irony world... where nothing you do will ever be right, someone will always be there to step in and instantly criticize your mistakes having the benefit of hindsight... when all he had was a SPLIT SECOND to make a decision, and for those who have been through police training, might recognize his decision to pull his weapon and fire...

    P.S. when I first saw this story, they left out a LOTTTT of critical information like the struggle and car movement... the interviews with his family saying this video justifies their thoughts he did nothing wrong, completely blow my mind out of the water... I will never understand people who see it that way... never...
     
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    A tad bit libertarian, but not by much. People should have licenses to at least keep the completely incompetent from driving. However, I'm not sure if even Libertarian ideals would have kept this driver alive because the police in this country are trained to kill every passenger in the car 'just in case.' Don't know too much else about the Libertarian platform to know how it would handle this situation.
     
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    MOD EDIT - Rule 2 the republican party needs to be labelled a terrorist organization or aleast a white supremacist hate group

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    The police are trained this way. It's not necessarily war, but they do use war-time tactics. Ironically, I believe our military would be better equipped to deal with our criminals also than our police.
     
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    Video showing the officer lying is probably driving his opinion. You know, since the officer's life was in "danger" and all. :roll:
     
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    And? The Duggars have 20 million children. How does his children equate to this event?
     
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    No one here is commenting on the cop's statement. We are all commenting on the video. When there is video what difference does the cop's statement really mean? After shooting some one and he dies how clear do you think someone's mind would be? This is why we have cop cams, the very thing some libs call an invasion of privacy.
     
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    Death is too good for him, especially considering he was BLACK too

    Possibly he didn't. He was moving about and maybe knocked the car out of gear and it started to move.

    The cop basically shouted once, drew his gun and shot the guy through the head for no reason I could see. What is WRONG with our police? Are they all going insane?

    For anybody defending the cop. If we let them get away with just killing people for no reason like this how long do you think before they'll start doing it to whites. In fact, think on how many black cops there are

    Maybe the guns have reached a tipping point and we're all going insane, all of us thinking we can just shoot anybody we please as long as we're armed. I wouldn't be surprised to see the NRA defending that.
     
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    It means that not only he lied, but officers will lie. They aren't this perfect fraternity many conservatives want to claim they are.
     
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    70 arrests??? No wonder there was no plate and no DL in his possession. He was evading in every way he could and still get behind a wheel. Bottle of liquor at his feet so he could drive while drunk too.Yeah, I know it hadn't been opened,so what? The cop did society a favor. This will be adjudicated in the policeman's favor. Fleeing suspect's are fair game.
     
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    looks more like a manslaughter charge to me
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter
     
  24. Steve N

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    Ok, so you say he lied, now what, lock him up for life on a lie?

    We all know the human mind isn't perfect. The cop also knew he had a camera on him. So since you're accusing him of lying instead of having a faulty memory, then prove his misstatement was an intentional conscious lie, and then prove that lie, which happened after this guy was shot, would have changed anything.

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    You will find any and every excuse, make up every story that can justify killing someone non-white.

    Faulty memory.......da **** out of here.
     

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