Putin said - ISIL Financed by 40 Countries, Including G20 Member States

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    Any games were the result of Putin's support of Assad.

    Russia, the U.K., France and the U.S. all know Assad used Chemical Weapons.

    The Chemical composition of the weapons used by Assad carried the marker of being Soviet Made.

    Putin has now agreed that Assad must go...so things should work out.

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    Yeah...Russia would never attack Turkey.

    Turkey is a part of NATO and Putin certainly is not that stupid.

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  2. Kiwi33

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    The deputy of the Bundestag, the first deputy head of Left fraction Sahra Wagenknecht call the countries of Europe to stop supporting the wars launched by the United States of America worldwide.
    On the page on Twitter, the German politician also noted that the terrorist group "Islamic State" is became from policy of the western countries which supported military actions of the USA.
    "The West created the monster. The end to this hypocritical policy, any support of the American wars", - was written by Sahra Wagenknecht on the page.
     
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    We created it???

    Why is it then that their target is Assad?

    They are Sunni....Assad is Shia Alawite.

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    You make it sound as if the repositioning for collaboration is all to do with the Russians and their need to shift in line with the West? Whereas there may certainly be a compromise there, another side of that coin is that the US shifted to agree that Assad could be be part of the transition before he steps down.
    Now that there have been compromises on many sides, things should work out.
     
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    Probably, the American politicians consider it normal. As, for example, Hilary Clinton laughed over brutal murder of Gaddafi …
    [video=youtube_share;5g8kAvneeMo]http://youtu.be/5g8kAvneeMo[/video]
    But quite recently, Hilary Clinton shook a hand it to the son Mutassim Gaddafi and proclaimed a new stage in the Libyan-American relations …

    [video=youtube_share;DtWIZg5TihU]http://youtu.be/DtWIZg5TihU[/video]
    Than these relations ended, it know by everybody. Mutassim was killed on October 20, 2011 under ringing laughter of madam Clinton … On the same day, as father.

    With Assad to make such atrocity, Putin won't allow!
     
  6. Kiwi33

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    If in this country or in another, Putin is killed, it is equated to war. All the same, it is the country part of NATO or not. Russia will burn this country to ashes!
     
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    Very much some Americans want, to look like superman to whom all submit:smile:
     
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    Putin is not going to be killed with the amount of security provided.

    And a nation does not go to war over the assassination of a leader by radicals.

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    ...is became from policy of the western countries which supported military actions of the USA. The USA wanted to use them, but IGIL plays the own game. Their purpose - the world Islamic caliphate.

    Because Sunni consider Shia Islam attempt of theological processing of standards of the Koran, and after all any theological processing in fact means denial of total initial perfection of the Koran.
     
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    How did ISIS in anyway support U.S. Military action?

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    The country in which the president of other country - is directly responsible for safety of the president. Radicals, cannibals... not important, the country where if kill the president - better don't make such statements. It won't rescue it.

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    Not any more...
     
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    Nations do not go to war over the the assassination of a leader by a terrorist faction.

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    Conspiracy theories as in the USA with Kennedy, I think for Russia won't work. Murder - punishment!
     
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    It will never be destroyed - we lost the initiative to do that 3 years ago - but at least we've made them afraid.
     
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    It is possible and it is necessary to reduce to a minimum, on as much as possible, all together... to expel IGIL from Syria, Iraq and to help these countries to restore statehood...
     
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    It would help the cause more if the flow of money from this oil would stop being sold, which seems like an easy task. It should be possible to easily stop the majority of sales by truck in other countries. Turkey seems to be a likely suspect considering that troops from ISIS and other rebels have also crossed so easily.
     
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    If we really want to cripple ISIS, we take out their oil field and pipelines. They are making $2MM A DAY from that oil. We also take out the banks that allow them to transact oil sales. Many of their soldiers are simply mercenaries. If ISIS is denied their money making abilities, they are denied the ability to buy more soldiers. Taking out their telecommunications towers and the ability to communicate via the internet, phones, or game systems would help too. Massive amounts of bombs have been dropped and those things still stand. Go figure.

    When we go after the oil fields, I'll believe this isn't a war over energy resources. Obama better not send more American troops to die over oil.
     
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    Then poor Syrians will restore all this? It is necessary to freeze banks, to inflict sanctions,to close borders... to destroy all oil industry not...

    PS. on G20 Putin called people who specifically trades with IGIL
     
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    War is hell and the purpose of war is to defeat the enemy. If that means taking out the oil fields that provide ISIS the money to operate, then take out those oil fields. There seems to be plenty money for bombs, so there should be plenty money to rebuild after ISIS is defeated to repair and replace them. I know that Putin has called out those that trade with ISIS and those that back it financially. Those are just words, not action. France has declared WAR. War means you remove the enemies' ability to conduct war against you… and that includes infrastructure, money, communications and transportation systems. So far, we have "strategically" bombed some buildings and killed some people… yet the oil fields and pipelines, funding mechanisms, and communication infrastructure remains relatively untouched. That's why I think we are not seriously at war and this is all political machinations to provide spoils. In the meantime, lots of innocent people are being killed. When seriously at war, get in there, take out those things that allow ISIS to wage war, defeat them, and come back home. We're not doing that… at least not yet. My question is why not?
     
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    Now Putin ordered for the Russian military fleet in the Mediterranean Sea, to work together with the French allies. Both French and Russia and Assad's army and many other residents of Syria (opposition) against IGIL will be at war. Fight together with the Syrian people (without them it is impossible to be at war...) will reduce number of refugees to Europe, also if ''coalition'' makes less destructions, it too will reduce number of refugees after war (if IGIL from Syria is possible to expel)

    In the destroyed country, even without enemy, many won't to live there. I so think.
     
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    It took putin to uncover what the west is really doing in ME, and that man should be plaused at least for this. It takes balls to speak the truth...
     
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    About the truth many say and long ago, only yes unfortunately, this truth ignored... until refugees and acts of terrorism didn't stir up Europe.
    There is some truth too...
    [video=youtube_share;m2uI9H_R09Y]http://youtu.be/m2uI9H_R09Y[/video]
    In State Department couldn't explain why the coalition didn't try to stop smuggling of oil of IS earlier

    In Syria the aircraft of the USA and member countries of the anti-terrorist coalition for the first time struck a massive attack to tankers which are used by "The Islamic state" for oil transportation. More than 100 fuel trucks were destroyed shortly after at the summit of G20 the Russian President Vladimir Putin shared information on sources of financing of IS with world leaders

    The journalist of RT asks. Why the USA didn't destroy these columns with oil earlier? Answer. On this question, I don't know the answer.
    Question. What made the USA to block financing of ISIS? Answer. The coalition, constantly bombs - destroys infrastructure of ISIS, but how many we destroyed and what - I don't know.
    The USA inflicted some sanctions on banks in Iraq for example, suspects of commission a trance of actions for ISIS. Answer. I don't know.

    One and a half years, the USA fight against ISIS?
     

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