Bernie Leads ALL Republicans - Quinnipiac

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...s-poll_565ee12ce4b079b2818c95fc?utm_hp_ref=tw

Bernie pickin' up some steam. Attaboy Bernie!

 

I usually don't trust individual polls. The RCP average is a better indicator.

Sanders - 43.7%
Trump - 43.7%

Rubio - 44.0%
Sanders - 43.3%

Sanders - 46.3%
Cruz - 40.7%

Carson - 45.5%
Sanders - 44.3%

Of course, Bernie is irrelevant. Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee.

 

I keep writing this, Hillary's supposed advantage is electability and it doesn't really exist.

That said though, I can't imagine Bernie Sanders winning. They like to call Republican debates "clown cars" for some reason but Trump aside, it's pretty obvious who the other clown is this season.

 

Hillary is beating Bernie by 27 points.

 

I am pulling for Sanders for sure...The only other I would consider voting for is Webb...I wish he was running as an independent...

 

Well, it is good news to see that Bernie Sanders takes in 49% of the vote to Trump's 41%.

 

The only way Bernie will be more than a footnote is if Hillary gets indicted for her criminal handling of classified information. With BHO in power, that's not likely, so fantasizing about Sanders at this point is a wet dream.

If he does move forward, throw preliminary polls out the window. There is absolutely no way an unrepentant Socialist with no background of accomplishment will be elected. He'd never get the necessary Independent vote to make it happen.

 

In that poll, in all the matchups with Sanders, at least 10% of voters are in the "someone else" or "don't know" categories. That 10% could change all the results of the poll.

Wait until the primaries are over and people start asking Hilary some hard questions, and bringing up her lifetime of corruption and incompetence. She might still win because there is that 47% (probably more now) that are bought and paid for by the govt, so Hilary only has to get a few dead people and illegals to vote for her and she will win.

If its Bernie, as an openly socialist/communist nut he won't win. The nation hasn't quite gone that far down the toilet. Maybe he has a real chance after Hilary if Hilary wins.

 

Regardless what you imagine...in spite of Bernie's "socialism" he's a lot better choice than any of the clown car alternatives

 

Hopefully; once people get to know bernie better, he will have a better shot.

 

I wish he stuck in for the primary. He was picking up - polls had him around 3-5 when he dropped. He had almost no shot to begin with, but it's important to have candidates like that so that the Democratic party isn't just the progressive vs the socialist. It's why I love having the Paul's in the GOP - shows that there is a different voice than the social conservative by adding in a libertarian voice. I similarly liked having other r moderates run.

 

Early polling is iffy, especially lone polls. Remember when Walker was in the lead? Or Paul? Haha, things change.

I don't think Sanders would do so well in the general, for the same reason why Ron Paul wouldn't have. They really have no filter - they're not regular politicians who will couch what they day to an ahdience, they speak their minds, and they both are vocal about things which aren't politically smart.

 

Lets hope Sanders makes a third party run as he really isnt a democrat.

 

The MSM has been saying sanders has no chance since the day he announced. And they still have no clue as to the support that is coming from people who generally do not vote, from my generation, the boomers, and from even republicans who are finally feeling what 35 years of GOP neoliberalism, and democratic neoliberalism has done to this nation of average people who are suffering economically.

Sanders will be the next president, unless he gets assassinated. The America of today is even more so, who fell for Obama, with his promises, of hope and change away from this insanity that has hollowed out America. That is what the naysayers are too disconnected to understand, in their little ideological bubbles.

People are sick and tired of free trade globalization, which was a choice, and did not come down from god. Even most conservatives are against it, even as their party is set to pass TPP, the only thing Obama has done, that they slobber over. The people are fed up, and that is what the pundits in the beltway do not understand. We saw the same thing happen when FDR won, and served 4 terms, because the people liked what he did, taking us away from this same neoliberalism insanity, that comes from the GOP treasonous bastards, and embraced by Clinton who pulled the dem party on board with it. Do not underestimate the pissed off state of enough average americans who will come out of the woodwork and put sanders into office. Your worst nightmare of course, but which will benefit you and your grandkids, so they will not be pissing on your graves.

 

Then you have no idea what a clown looks like is all I can say. Most americans, support what he stands for economically. Go back and inform yourself, and get out of your bubble which insulates you from what is going on today with average working people.

 

Only with the group they traditionally poll. It does not take into account the millions he has drawn out, who do not vote, and a massive support of the young and from boomers who understand economic and trade policy is destroying this nation, the nation their kids and grandkids have to live in.

I have never been polled in 60 years, since I have had a phone. No one else I know has either. You poll land lines today and you will not get a representative poll.

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Dream on, and make sure you bring your arse back here so I can say, I told you so. LOL Fizzy.

 

Communist? What, you a 6th grade graduate. Anyone who is actually educated knows sanders is a FDR progressive, you know, the man who helped to create an economy that created the worlds largest most prosperous middle class? What has the last 35 years of neoliberalism from the GOP created? Are you blind, and cannot just look? That would explain it, I reckon.

 

What? The dem party is practically devoid of progressives. They are corporate dems. Sanders is the only progressive here, running. A progressive is not owned by corporations and the banking cabal. That is the means test. They represent the best interests of the common man, like you, and 99.9 percent of the people here, who do not know what their best self interests are. Ideological purity takes that common sense away from them.

 

This cycle is different. That is illustrated by the support trump has as well as sanders. Both are pulling non voters out of the woodwork, and if either pull out enough, you will have one or the other as president. The number of people I know who gave up on voting, are voting this time, for sanders, or trump. And if that happens here in the south, it is happening all over this nation. The clue are the crowds drawn by these two men. Compared to the others. The clue is what is going on, on the net, social media.

Obama got in, because of a greatly dissatisfied populace. That dissatisfaction got worse, and grew. You guys like the bubble heads in the beltway are making the same error.

 

So he is correct. FDR gave us the USSR

 

What should scare everyone on this forum, is that Sanders is a 100% advocate for a single payer healthcare system.

Basically all a Socialist is, is one that believes in a combination of ownership, being private, commercial to federal, but he has not explained where his personal beliefs are or where the limits for government controlled. Even then, whether by regulation (as is now) or actual control. There are probably 200 million people in the US alone that hold some equities in one business or another, that are either retired or hope to retire on those assets. Sanders has -ZERO-% chance of being elected President IMO.

 

On purpose or not, you just described progressives in the nutshell. A group of self absorbed idealists who know what's better for me than I do.

No thanks. That's not the America I want for myself or others. The education level of voters has taken a nose dive over the past decade, but not enough to elect Bernie. At least, not yet.

 

Except every single cycle before people have been saying "this one is different". It remains that only one candidate from either party has ever won the nomination without winning IA or NH, and most won both. It isn't that radically different - things will change a bit, but not that much.

 

They are total opposites how do they become your two picks?

 

I have the poll, but it is kind of irrelevant as Hillary is going to be the nominee and as far as I am concerned, Sanders is just for show. What I think is more important is not the fact Hillary is ahead of Trump 47-41, but that Hillary is winning the independent votes 45-37. But if the GOP nominee is not Trump, Hillary could be in trouble among independents.

Her favorable/unfavorable rating is 38/56, Trump's is worst 31/60. But there is Hillary's Achilles Heel if the GOP nominates someone who can appeal to independents. But at the moment that seems fairly far-fetched. The Republicans need to win 54-55% of the independent vote have a shot at the White House due to the Democrats larger base vote. Trump can't do that.