British RAF Jets Bomb ISIS Oil Fields in Syria Minutes After Vote

A little reality check..

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Oil facility destroyed

Meanwhile, air strikes by the U.S.-led coalition destroyed an oil facility run by ISIS near the city of Deir Ezzor, AFP quoted a spokesman as saying on Thursday.

The series of strikes late Wednesday on the Omar oil field near the city of Deir Ezzor would affect the jihadist organization’s ability to generate funds through oil sales, he said.

“There were strikes last night that struck Daesh-controlled oil refineries, command and control centres and transportation nodes” in the Omar oil field, U.S. operations officer Major Michael Filanowski told reporters in Baghdad.

“There were 26 targets and all 26 were struck,” he said. “That will impact their strategic ability to generate money.”

Oil makes $1.7 mln profit for ISIS

He said the amount of money ISIS was estimated to generate through its exploitation of the Omar oil field was between $1.7 million and $5.1 million a month.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitor said a coalition air raid on the Omar field destroyed pipelines and oil storage facilities.



http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...-ISIS-supply-route-from-Iraq-to-Syria-13.html

 

Here Margot is where you get problems

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/10/politics/donald-trump-fact-check-bomb-oil-fields-iraq/

at least he is honest!! but I do not think this would do anyone any good.

The article then goes on to where I had a hesitation about your idea of bombing Libya's oilfields. Libya does need to be reconstructed at some time into a country which with it's resources ought to be able to give it's people a good standard of living.

That is the other side that needs to be thought of. Really people need to stop buying the stuff.

 

Trump is a moron when it comes to the oil business.. He sounds just like Bush's dual citizen neocons.

If we bomb Iraq's oilfields.. we write them off for a decade... and we may not need to.. Bombing Syrian and Libyan oilfields may be quite enough.

 

The last, but not the least [I've got no hopes to see Italy join the active forces, so ... leave me alone with the shame of a conservative warrior who lives in a pacifist leftist country ...].

UK was the missing tough guy, now that London has begun to hit [for real!] the oil industry which sustains ISIS financially, for the Islamists bad time is coming [Russians hit oil industry as well, with the English involvement ... the Islamic State will find it really heavy to keep on exploiting those oil fields].

 

It was his honesty about running off with the money which surprised me. What do you mean bombing Syrian and Libyan oilfields will be quite enough. You have said Syria does not make much money from hers so maybe that is so but how are the Libyan people going to be able to recover without their oil?

 

I am glad that this time Britain voted to play ball, this adds quite a bit to U.S resolve....no Libya repeat.

Now if only our pentagon and President start to get nasty we might begin to hurt these nuts.

 

well using your logic, the americans and others don't want those who disagree to profit... why haven't they just carpet bombed all the oil facilities? why would they keep them in tact for this continued abuse by turkey or whoever is buying the oil? why are they trying to pinpoint targets to disable the facilities without much damage? according to your logic, they would just be carpet bombing them so nobody can use them anymore since clearly everyone disagrees with america these days...

but this goes back to my point... why haven't any of these nations, including russia, just strategically bombed the roadways, to force them down a single corridor which would be easy to control... a semi can't drive through a 10 foot hole 40 feet wide... put some of those around the facilities and not a single semi will enter or leave it unless its on that single roadway... which then can be taken control of to stop the flow of oil until the government can manage better security?

I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest or debate or who is right or wrong... I'm purely getting into a pissing debate over awful strategy on securing facilities with no casualties... it would be so easy in the terrain around many of these facilities to do what I just suggested... as they try to fill in holes, you can bomb the equipment they're using to fill them in... its an easy method to sustain the choke point... with no actual confrontation or collateral damage... just keep the craters open and stop the semis... but at least now someone is saying, okay fine enough is enough lets just blow up the semis they're using... that would be my second choice but at least its something... I just think its silly they target the facilities or try to pinpoint things when they could slide out and away from the facility and drop as many bombs as they want quite easy...

 

What tales? Watch the State Department being caught in lies about Russia bombing a hospital. This is not the first time though, the other spokespeople kept looking like fools as well. You have to feel sorry for them though.They have to cover up for Washington's lies and deceptions.

Watch the video to the end. This is not the first time that they were put on a spot and ended up looking like fools...and it's a pity because these videos are being shown all over the world.



[video=youtube;U9xkyfv3oGk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9xkyfv3oGk[/video]

 

They have thorium reserves.

 

So does Jordan, Saudi Arabia .. Afghanistan..

 

Russia did show videos of everything it bombed. They were the oil tanks and the trucks, nothing else. Why destroy the infrastructure? Don't you think it's kind of malicious to go into another country under the pretext of fighting terrorists, and then to start destroying its infrastructure? I do!

It's not just Britain that does it, Washington bombed those facilities as well.

 

Those trucks belonged to the Kurds.

Speaking to Turkey's state-run Anadolu Agency, Jawdat said the tankers belong to the KRG and Russia's claims are far from being true.

"Our Natural Resources Ministry has earlier announced that hundreds of tankers are carrying oil from KRG to Turkey. Oil is being shipped to Turkey with tankers and it is not a secret" Jawdat said.

 

ISIS not only in Syria. For some reason nobody runs to fight with ISIS to other countries. As soon as Russia changed a situation in Syria, really destroying ISIS, the West began to open the second front...

 

Well it's about damn time UK.

 

The Iraqi Kurds carry the oil not through Turkey, it through Israel. They told still on November 19 about it. "The semiautonomous province of Iraq Kurdistan uses difficult schemes for sale of oil bypassing the central government and will continue to be engaged in it irrespective of opinion of Baghdad because Kurds need money for fight against" the Islamic state ".
Not to be noticed by the authorities of Iraq, Kurdistan sends oil through Israel, overloads parties from the ship on the ship at coast of Malta and uses the ships baits for derivation of attention, told Reuters the minister of natural resources of Kurdistan Ashti Havrami.
Kurds say that are compelled to sell oil bypassing Iraq because it doesn't fulfill the obligation for contributions to the regional budget in 2014 and 2015. In turn, the previous and present governments of Iraq accused Kurds of breach of contract on oil transfer to Baghdad." And Turkey it simply would take away from Kurds also all! It after all Kurds, for Turks they — enemies!

 

Also directly to Turkey....

Iraqi Kurds refute Russia’s claims on Turkey-Daesh oil trade, say tankers belong to KRG

http://www.dailysabah.com/diplomacy...key-daesh-oil-trade-say-tankers-belong-to-krg

Of course Trump is still braying about Turkey..

 

Of course they are. They are fighting her in Iraq. As far as Russia destroying ISIS that is not what we hear. Rather Russia is destroying the people most dangerous to Assad which appear to be the people nearest him which are not ISIS but rather the people the West calls moderate and believes they can work with. I understand from Turkey you have been killing a lot of Turkmens!!

As for why Britain has got the vote to go in. That it seems is the Paris attacks. Two MP's mentioned them and France asking us to go in as the reason - never mind the reason for the Paris attacks was very likely their work in Syria.

Russia is in to protect Assad and it's interests in the area. The Brits are in because for a time after the Paris attacks public opinion supported it. For months Cameron has said he will have a vote on bombing Syria again as soon as he believes he can win it. The Paris attacks are what made that happen though now he is wanting to bomb a different side to last time.

 

I guess you talk about these one
[video=youtube_share;rpz8xKp9gS0]http://youtu.be/rpz8xKp9gS0[/video]

 

Some wrong information, article fake? Russians speak about fuel trucks, in article it is told about tankers...

 

Sounds like the Ancient Israeli 70 A.D. revolution and the Roman's plan to take Masada, the mountain stronghold of the Israeli's who all committed suicide after being blockaded in the fortress for months. ISIS and terrorist are good at suicide. Your premise worked in World War II in Europe because it was a railroad - river - bridge culture, and the Allied bombing could take out the German army's ability to move once we got our forces and air force built up to destroy their infrastructure. The function of the famous 101st and 82nd Airborne the evening before D-Day in 1944, was to drop behind German held beach lines, capture the roads and bridges, and wait for the breakout of the main American-English army, and stall the German panzer battalions and infantry from rushing reinforcements to Normandy. Although both heroic division's accomplished the job, the sure scattered their stick's to the wind that evening..............

Bombing dirt roads isn't the answer. Bombing railroad's would be if that was the method they were using to transport the oild out. Anybody you bomb and kill repairing infrastructure to and from ISIS controlled oil field will be forced civilian labor, it won't be ISIS fighter's out there filling in the potholes. Only way that works is the same way the IRA terrorized Britain and Ireland for centuries - roadside bombings, and the same way they defeated us in the Iraq War, moving to low-tech cellphone detonator's-type IED's which exploded at random, confusing and terrorizing our military movement, because they couldn't defeat us in any head's up batle. You take out their oil structure, squeeze them with sanctions, stop the marine traffic transporting that oil, and ISIS will eventually collapse. BTW, it would take Exxon-Mobil or any other major company about 6-weeks to 2-months to have those oil fields wrecked in bombing attacks rebuilt and operating again. They would use the big expensive, do it fast and right Halliburton or Noel Lesley Construction Companies, the largest in the world, with the most modern equipment and expertise to do it. If we are sticking to bombing ISIS, we are dropping million dollar bombs on Chevy S-10 pickup trucks to destroy 10-12 fighter's at a time. Better to take out their oil supply which represents where they get the money from to sponsor their terrorism. Destroy the terrorist in Syria; Iraq; Iran; Libya's oil supply - then dump the glut of American oil, which currently is being held in storage and not released onto the world market's, and it will sell cheaply, collapse Middle East terrorism states, and create economic havoc with the Russian economy, perhaps even collapse it and Putin in the process.

BTW - that isn't my idea - it happens to be part and parcel of the actions Mr. Donald Trump says he would take to end ISIS and the terrorist threat, and put the horrible, dangerous, world threatening Iran nuclear deal back into renegotiation in our favor. Double down on the sanctions, and Iran will plead for a deal - and freeze their assets - and blockade ships from leaving the Middle East with terrorist state oil bound for China; Japan; Taiwan; South Korea, leaving America with the world's supply of oil, and we are back in charge of world hegemony the correct way, not the Chamberlain-Obama-Clinton-Kerry way...............

 

There were several things you could have addressed in what I posted but your reply does not address any and I am certainly not going to look at what well may be a snuff movie - and if it is I am pretty sure by forum rules you should have warned me. Oh I see now it has come on. So not a poster to bother with. Not interested in debate. You are clearly just trolling

 

This latest adventure is highly likely to turn into another farce. Cameron was warned that there are no 70,000 fighters prepared to fight against ISIS.


Was PM Warned About Syrian Rebel Numbers?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pm-warned-syrian-rebel-numbers-054031826.html#IqshtvZ

 

What's that? Something that Cameron's involved in will turn into a farce?** Why, the very idea!

** (I think it will too! He's an embarrassment to us.)

 

I never refused to participate in debate. I responded to one paragraph of your post which shows, allegedly Russia bombs not those whom it is necessary. (it is probable - moderate opposition) And showed, the cannibal - which in the West is called by moderate opposition. Instead of to answer me, this concrete case, you speak that I do the trolling. In other words, you blacken Russia, but I shouldn't you answer - the same? In what trolling consists? It not the truth or provocation? Conscious deception maybe? It your western TV shows!

OK, if further you speak about Britain actions and you interests my opinion. I support it. As well as other countries have to participate in fight against IGIL. But - all countries which want to participate in fight against the international terrorism, have to and adhere to international law.

It is clear to all that the majority, has no trust to each other. The president Putin speaks to all, especially this address for the USA - ok, you don't want to join the Russian coalition, we don't want to join yours (they can't will agree who will command...) - let's create the international coalition in the UN. But the West of it doesn't want. It isn't fair to create the coalition in the UN? I 100% agree it is fair and you?

 

HMMM.......maybe you haven't been paying attention!
ISIS does NOT play well with anybody who does NOT believe in what THEY believe in.
You know......all those beheadings, burnings, stonings, mass shootings and throwing people off buildings.
Unless you think that ISIS allows infidels and non-believers to work around them.....which would be a foolish thought!