British RAF Jets Bomb ISIS Oil Fields in Syria Minutes After Vote

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  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    This is good.. I would like to see the same strategy in Libya.. Bomb the oil facilities in the east.

    Dec 3 2015, 9:58 am ET


    British RAF Jets Bomb ISIS Oil Fields in Syria Minutes After Vote

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/is...b-isis-oil-fields-syria-minutes-after-n473451

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    The Omar oil field, 35 miles inside Syria's border with Iraq, "is one of the largest and most important to ISIS financial operations, and represents over 10 percent of their potential income from oil," Britain's Ministry of Defence said in a statement. "Carefully selected elements of the oilfield infrastructure were targeted, ensuring the strikes will have a significant impact on [militants'] ability to extract the oil to fund their terrorism."

    Two U.S. counter-terrorism officials told NBC News in July that ISIS can earn between $8 million to $10 million per month from selling and smuggling oil and gas.

    Supported by a Voyager air refueling tanker and a Reaper drone, the Tornado GR4s dropped Paveway IV guided bombs onto targets in the area, the Mod said.

    The first sortie took place 57 minutes after the House of Commons vote, according to Britain's ITV News.

    The vote, which came shorly after 10 p.m. local time (5 p.m. ET) Wednesday, followed a testy 10-hour debate in which many lawmakers expressed fears of civilian casualties in Syria from the U.S.-led "Operation Inherent Resolve."

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    what I've never understood is why do they need t bomb the facilities themselves... why not just bomb the roadways used going in and out of the facilities... sure some folks will say well they'll just go around... or they'll fill in the holes... well don't we want to catch people doing that so those are the people we kill? which will slow them down more and more as we kill more people working with them? if you destroy all exit routes except one, you've got clear defined targets you can catch or kill? and once you trap them by the terrain of the area, and destroy vehicles, they now act as natural roadblocks to slow movement of large equipment out... it just seems like nobody is trying to play a strategy that doesn't obliterate the oil facility which will cost a LOT to rebuild, when they could be far more effective destroying much easier replaced things like roads or transportation equipment... leave the facility in tact so once its retaken it can be immediately used, destroy the transportation methods until only one route is available, its easy to monitor and take care of... its not easy to drive a semi through a 10 foot crater... and without heavy equipment they can't repair or fill them in easy...
     
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    So let me get this straight moment they are in this war they already have a target? Why haven't the US planes hit this obvious target yet? Seems like they are just bombing random (*)(*)(*)(*) to make themselves feel powerful.
     
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    and on the BBC after every latest of great strike on oil fields is written very clear 'no civilians were killed' or 'using our whatever no civilians were in danger'!!
     
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    This is terrible news. What is the best method for the rebels to counter these air strikes?
     
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    Actually its a good strategy.. Cut off revenue for ISIS.. Its time we bombed the oil fields in Libya too.
     
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    what is the best method to counter these cowardly airstrikes though?
     
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    I doubt there is one.. The US and the Brits have held off for three years. ISIS is gathering and settling in in Eastern Libya.. Libya imports 90% of its food. Blow up the oil infrastructure and cut off their money.
     
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    Obviously they need anti aircraft guns
     
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    Good show. Those engaged in Syria need to quit (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)footing around. Follow Russia's lead and smash these punks. Civilians need to understand that being anywhere in the vicinity of these scum is bad news, so they can move it or lose it! If they see the scum coming, they can take action either to turn them away or clear out of there before the bombs fall! That's war, and IS want war.

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    Do they not have civilian workers on-site? Those are the only civilians I'd expect to be in any danger from such a strike.
     
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    you mean anti aircraft missiles? i dont think a gun will take out a jet.
     
  12. Esau

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    maybe if ISIS could get hold of the russian anti aircraft missiles off asshat that would prove effective. camoron is a terrorist sympathizer for supporting the asshat regime.

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    of course the do. they are called OIL WORKERS! Since when does the axis of uk/usa care about civilians anyway, look at the 1m lost Iraqi souls.
     
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    The oil companies have pulled all their people out repeatedly over the past four year.. that's why Libyan production is down to less than 300,000 bpd. BP, TOTAL and ENI have written off hundreds of millions of losses on equipment and infrastructure that they built and paid for.

    The oil business hates a war zone.. Its past time to finish the oil industry in Libya.
     
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    I wouldn't know. The 'no civilians killed' bit has been taken off - probably it was on as that was one of the reasons people were not wanting strikes and they were boasting about not having killed civilians in Iraq.

    If you look at the link

    it may be that there was nobody around. On the other hand it could be that they consider anyone working there a 'militant' or maybe there simply was no one around - that was what I first thought, because how they can tell who is a civilian and who Isis, I would have thought would be somewhat difficult most of the time.

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    Not a military person Esau, whatever is needed is what they need. ;)
     
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    true! :cheerleader:
     
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    Syria has very little oil production.. and now the Omar oilfield is ruined.

    Maybe 24,000 bpd and its crummy oil.. very sour and heavy crude.

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...-ISIS-supply-route-from-Iraq-to-Syria-13.html
     
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    yes but there will be civilan workers employed by isis to run the oilfields. im pretty sure that the UK would pretend that these civilan workers were ISIS though, so they could say they havent killed any civilians.

    War- Its about who can lie the most!
     
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    Not for a long time, that's for sure. The bombings of civilians in Germany and Japan in WWII speak to that. But then, that's war. Civilians get hurt and killed in wars, too. That's why war should be avoided. IS shouldn't want war, but they do. Let's get it done and over with, then. Civilians beware.
     
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    I'm glad the Brits aren't so concerned with the environment which was Obama's ridiculous excuse.
     
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    Isn't it? I hope Caliph Ibrahim saws his own head off in grief...:(
     
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    I don't support ISIS but I am suspicious of the bombing.

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    Don't you believe it. If we hear they are wrecking the environment or killing civilians or getting more recruits for ISIS people will be on the streets for the bombing to stop!!

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    They want it because their numbers grow and they hope it will get more recruits from and in the west.
     
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    Great Britain has to receive consent of the Syrian government to airstrikes on terrorists in Syria, it lies in the course of the resolution of the UN Security Council on counteraction of terrorist group "Islamic State", the Foreign Minister of Russia Sergey Lavrov declared on Thursday.

    "I heard that the prime minister of Great Britain David Cameron told that the resolution 2249 adopted unanimously after acts of terrorism in Paris grants the right to British to carry out these blows to the Syrian territory", - Lavrov told journalists in Belgrade."

    I want to draw attention to very important fact: in this resolution the Security council calls all who it can make, cooperate in fight against IGIL on the basis of international law and, first of all, on the basis of the charter of the UN and to coordinate the actions. This appeal unambiguously extends on the Syrian government - the government of the country in which IGIL carries out the ominous plans. And the appeal of coordination concerns to all who fights against IGIL", - the Russian minister added. Estimating the decision of Great Britain to be connected to drawing blows to IGIL in Syria, Lavrov declared: "Anyway we proceed from this, than our efforts in fight against terror are more universal, especially effective such efforts can be".

    The Russian minister also confirmed Russian Federation positions that the wide coalition on fight against terrorism in Syria "has to lean on strong fundamentals of international law"." It means - either the decision of the UN Security Council, or consent of the government in the territory of which there is an operation on fight against terrorism. And if the foreign state wants it is necessary to participate in it, of course, to have such consent", - Lavrov added.

    Correctly Lavrov tells everything, all have to adhere to the principles of international law. Great Britain will observe this international law?(Will request consent of Syria?)
     
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    You don't get it. Britain is in Syria illegally, as are the Americans, and now the Germans. And they are also hypocrites. They know it's only a matter of time before Isis will be gone, and they want to make sure that the Syrian people will not profit from their own oil wells. In their minds, only those who side with them are allowed to profit. It doesn't matter if they are cutting throats or beheading Christians, Alawites or anyone else.

    To show you their criminality, when the terrorists first went into Aleppo, they stole all the machinery from the factories and brought them into Turkey.

    The oil facilities though are not the only things the American coalition has been destroying. They destroyed the electrical facilities and a water purifying plant in Allepo... leaving the people to drink the cholera infested waters of the Euphrates. It shocked Russia as to why they wanted the people to suffer?

    Sick, sick, sick. :steamed:
     
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    well I have not be hearing too good tales about Russia either.
     
  25. Margot2

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    Nope.. They don't want ISIS to take Syrian oil to fuel their aggression. The US and the Brits have held off three years.. Its overdue.. Time to bomb Libyan oil fields as well.
     

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