Zimmerman posts nude photos of ex gf "she cheated on me with a dirty muslim"

he was pursuing him sitting in his car, then once the teen noticed, and walked away, he got out and continued to follow him on foot

I am sure z thought he was a bad guy and he was gonna catch him, he has a superiority complex and lashes out when he doesn't get his way though, as seen by these photo's he posted among other things

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Not by any definition of the word, he was avoiding him. Pursuit requires a goal to overtake and capture of which there isn't a shred of evidence and quite the contrary.

Did you even watch the trial or read the evidence? Martin ran off he didn't walk off he ran off back to the safety of the apartment, two buildings away for the T junction.

And your bias'd conjecture surely doesn't represent it.

The fact is you used the term "stalking" to add some sinister qualities to it and you incorrectly used the term as there was no stalking by any definition of the word.

 

the fact that he pursued in the car, then on fit shows he was and was going to continue to pursue him

 

The fact is he didn't, he had no intention of overtaking and capturing him. Your specious attempts here fail on all counts. You do NOT get privilege of redefining words to suit your fancy as you attempt to do here and in other treads.

 

How do you know GZs intent? Did you talk to him?

Because he first followed him by car and then parked it and got out and actually caught UP to Trayvon.

Unless you're claiming Trayvon reached into his SUV and tried to take his...oh wait that was a different bit of nonsense.

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No intent to over take?

So that was an accident?

GZ was going for a pack of cigarettes after calling 911 and happened to bump into Martin?

 

No he talked to the dispatcher and it was recorded. What do you have that says otherwise?

Wrong, he saw him and then pulled his car around the corner and parked to observe him not follow him.

Nope, just observe and in fact rolled up his window to avoid any contact. Why would he try to overtake and capture him that would be a blatant crime for which he would have been arrested on the spot.

So that was an accident?

GZ was going for a pack of cigarettes after calling 911 and happened to bump into Martin?[/QUOTE]

That is not what happened.

Too bad none of you watched the trial and the evidence play out.

 

No he talked to the dispatcher and it was recorded. What do you have that says otherwise?

That would be the dispatcher that told him not to follow Martin? The one he ignored?

Wrong, he saw him and then pulled his car around the corner and parked to observe him not follow him.

Oh...so this whole thing happened inside GZs car? No kidding. First I heard anyone make that claim.

Nope, just observe and in fact rolled up his window to avoid any contact. Why would he try to overtake and capture him that would be a blatant crime for which he would have been arrested on the spot.

I don't know what incident you think you're talking about but that is exactly what GZ did and I agree that it was an illegal act.

 

you do not know that, your taking the killers word for it, you were not there, nor was I

I am not redefining the word, he was stalking the teen and then killed him, that is what happened

http://www.yourdictionary.com/stalking

"Stalking is hunting for prey, or physically following someone, or contacting them excessively."

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Yes the one that did not tell him anything, they are not allowed to issue an order or tell the other person what to do. You didn't even bother to listen to the trial or read transcripts or reporting did else you would know this.

What the dispatcher did was tell him they would prefer he not do that after he asked Zimmerman if he was following the suspect. He asked than over a minute AFTER he told Zimmerman to let them know which way the suspect ran, asked and then Zimmerman exited his vehicle as the suspect ran off. He then ran up the sidewalk and pass the T-junction to the perimeter street and THAT is when the dispatcher told him they would prefer Zimmerman not follow the suspect and Zimmerman replied OK. Zimmerman had no idea where Martin was at that point and was trying to pick a spot to meet the arriving at any minute police car.

Is it your contention that KNOWING the police would be arriving at ANY SECOND, Zimmerman then went and sought out Martin and shot and killed him. Do you realize how preposterous is that contention?

Wrong, he saw him and then pulled his car around the corner and parked to observe him not follow him.

You've never heard anyone make that claim, do keep up.

Nope, just observe and in fact rolled up his window to avoid any contact. Why would he try to overtake and capture him that would be a blatant crime for which he would have been arrested on the spot.

I asking you why Zimmerman would engage in an incident as you are claiming. Try again.

Why would he try to overtake and capture him? That would be a blatant crime for which he would have been arrested on the spot. First pulling the weapon, then the illegal detention. So what exactly was he planning to do if we take your conjecture at face value, when the police arrived while illegal detaining some one and illegally threatening him with a weapon.

 

Yes we do, the tapes put us there, don't project your ignorance of what is on them on me.

He was not stalking under Florida law nor under the dictionary definition of the word. You do not get to change the facts as they are known nor the meaning of words.

Martin wasn't a prey nor was Zimmerman hunting him.

For Martin to have been Zimmerman's prey Zimmerman would have had to have been watching for the purpose of killing him. That is utter nonsense.

And he wasn't hunting him he was observing him.


GEEZ give it up you are making yourself look silly now.

 

So you see a major difference between him ignoring the dispatchers "request" that he not follow and me saying the dispatcher told him not to follow (which he ignored)?

The difference is inconsequential.

But you did point out one thing.

He sat there in his car for quite some time and STILL caught up with Martin. How did that happen if he wasn't "chasing" or "stalking" him?

You've never heard anyone make that claim, do keep up.

Nope, just observe and in fact rolled up his window to avoid any contact. Why would he try to overtake and capture him that would be a blatant crime for which he would have been arrested on the spot.

If GZ wasn't trying to make contact with martin and was only waiting for the cop car he covered a lot of distance in the "right" direction and then did get involved in a physical altercation with him

Nothing you claim makes sense.Why would he try to overtake and capture him that would be a blatant crime for which he would have been arrested on the spot.

I asking you why Zimmerman would engage in an incident as you are claiming. Try again.

But that's exactly what GZ did...and again...I agree that he should have been arrested.

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And he wasn't hunting him he was observing him.

His "observation" got him really close to Martin...who you admitted was running away

 

Pfffft. You really believe that?

 

This guy Zimmerman is indeed a character... making hundreds of thousands of dollars from a painting sold on eBay, hello?

Now doing videos and exposing his cheating girlfriend... he might look he is an idiot, but definitively he is smart enough to come clean after killing a dude bang bang bang...

Two more news about him and he will be remembered forever...

 

No, he's definitely an idiot.

 

stop with the personal attacks please, your not helping your argument in the least...

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Obama is a prime example.

 

not sure what your talking about.... did you mean trump, bachmann, palin, cruz, ect....

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he's correct though... Florida's legal definition of stalking includes the word "REPEATED" ..... Following =/= stalking.

Zim had everybit as much right to be there as Martin, even if Martin didn't like it, even if Zim didn't like Martin being there. However, escalating a legal encounter to an illegal physical assault was done by Martin.

Had Zim esclated the incident, then Martin has a right to defend himself. But Zim didn't, or at least the state couldn't prove he did.


Why do Martin supporters hate due process so much?

 

I already said I was not using the legal re-definition of the word, I am using the dictionary definition, so why you keep saying it's not the legal definition is beyond me

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because Zimmerman isn't tried using your subjective definitions, he's tried under Florida law and florida legal definitions. REPEATED is a crucial point in that definition your subjective definition conveniently leaves out.

 

Get your facts straight he did not ignore the dispatchers request, he responded to it. His actions were perfectly reasonable. You seem to be under the uniformed impression the Dispatcher said "we don't want you to do that" while Zimmerman was still sitting in his vehicle. That is patently false. The fact is the dispatcher had already told Zimmerman to make sure he told him what the suspect was doing THREE TIMES. When Zimmerman told the Dispatcher "He's running" the Dispatcher asked him "which way is he going", that is when Zimmerman got out of his vehicle so he could OBSERVE which way the suspect ran but Martin ran out of sight. It was over a minute later that the Dispatcher asked if he was still following and Zimmerman said yes, which was just a bad choice of words as he had no idea where Martin ran to and then he began the discussion with the Dispatcher as to where the meet the police. The initial incident was over, done at that point. It was when Zimmerman turn to go back to his vehicle, back towards the T junction Martin came out of nowhere and attacked Zimmerman.

You should really educate yourself on the evidence as presented at trial before you engage in your fallacious statements about what happened that night.

He never caught up with Martin, Martin caught up with him.

If is not an "if".

No it is not, he avoided contact when Martin approached the car and made his dancing reaching into his waist motion and then ran off.

So again

Why would he try to overtake and capture him that would be a blatant crime for which he would have been arrested on the spot by the arriving any second police.

Martin go close to him. It was Martin who approached the vehicle. It was Martin who after running back to the apartment, where he could have simply gone inside and if he had any fear at all called the police or his father, and then seeing Zimmerman cross the sidewalk T junction two buildings away went back to the T junction and confronted Zimmerman.

 

you're right, he did listen.... but even if he didn't.... that still doesn't justify Martin's escalation of the situation. Zim had a legal right to be there, the 911 opereator telling him to stop following is not a legal directive. It was simply advice, no different than if you or I told him to quit following.

Its sad how many liberals are willing to throw away due process when it doesn't suit their agenda.

 

The only constant in all of this Zimmerman drama is, Zimmerman. Prior to and after Martin, it is all Zimmerman. According to Zimmerman, the only time it wasn't him brandishing weapons, roughing people up and escalating things was during his encounter with Martin, the one person that dealt with Zimmerman and didn't say what everyone else has been saying (because he's dead).

I guess a violent person with authority issues who has been named as the offender in multiple cases can be taken at his word when he says the dead guy he killed is at fault. Totally not breaking his pattern of aggression and it is really believable, especially considering his behavior since then. Really believable guy.

Anyway, like Z, Martin was no saint. I think we can all agree that those two guys should have never met, and I don't think they would have if that one and only constant, Zimmerman, hadn't been there.

 

you're right in the sense that all this continued drama is Zim fault. I agree. Where is Casey Anthony nowadays? noone knows because if she did get away with murder.... at least she understands to stay out of the spotlight today. Zim keeps finding new drama.


However, no matter what he does today, or tomorrow, it will never change what happened the night of Martin's death. Lots of Martin supporters seem to think that posting nudes of an ex means he's guilty of murdering Trayvon

 

So Zimmerman, a registered Democrat who voted for Obama is a bigot.

This is not news. King Bigot Al Sharpton is a liberal hero.