A $9.5 trillion price tag for Trump’s tax plan

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...a-9-5-trillion-price-tag-for-trumps-tax-plan/

The Tea Party is ready to denounce Trump, right? If there is any ideological consistency, all those conservatives who want to lower the debt and the deficit will drop Trump like a hot potatoe. This will be the test as to whether there is any true ideology behind modern American conservatism.

 

Reagan doubled the debt.
Bush doubled the debt.

Republicans like to wail and gnash their teeth over the debt - but they really don't care.

 

Simple solution is trim 9.5 billion in waste from .gov jobs or spending. Since Trump is not going to give foreign aid to Countries that hate us, we will get the 9.5 billion by not giving it away. IMO the chance to deprave Muslim Countries of US tax dollar gifts is the best reason to jump on the Trump train.

 

There isn't anywhere CLOSE to 9.5 trillion (not billion) in waste or spending in the government over 10 years.

 

All tax reform is political fraud. Most voters now know that.

Cut government - give the money to the voters = Victory - for any candidate.

 

The known number for foreign aid times ten years comes out to , 376,800,000,000$. Not enough but a big chunk of it. When other wasteful projects are cut will will get close.

I'm glad that all people and all parties can agree , let's not get further in debt. If We agree , this is the major issue, can we all get together on a solution, or will we just be party hacks?

 

I though he wants a flat tax.

10% for someone with 1 billion dollars is 100,000,000

10% of 50,000 is 5,000

Not saying that he will have a flat tax of 10%


This could perhaps bridge the gap


That way taxes can be an equal financial burden

 

You forgot a few zeroes on your little solution.

 

taxes are for the most part wealth redistribution, eliminate all funding outside main responsibilities of Federal government and there will be no deficit.

 

Eliminate all funding outside of libertarian ideals for government and society would be a stinking dung pile, and America would be nothing resembling a global power.

 

We can continue our military expenses, there are other places we can cut costs...plus with lower taxes economy will grow by huge margins.

 

maybe.... but something tells me your not taking everything into account.

If there is any ideological consistency, all those progressive communist democrats who completely ignore the debt, and the deficit, will jump on the Trump bandwagon !!! This will be the test as to whether there is any true ideology behind modern American progressivism.

 

Wasn't the f35 a failed project? How much did it cost? 1.3 Trillion.

That's just 1 project. What about the new USS Zumwalt? It can barely keep itself from being capsized in heavy seas. That was 22.5 billion

The government spent 1 billion on faulty Obamacare website.

All of these failed projects add up


And look at this

That was just in 2014

 

There are many wasteful projects.

Here is a list of my personal worst of the worst in federal waste:

Swedish massages for rabbits: $387,000

The National Institutes of Health paid this six figure sum to the National Center for Complimentary and Alternative Medicine in order to discern whether Swedish massages would be helpful in recovering from an illness.

“A group of rabbits received daily rub downs from a 'mechanical device that simulates the long, flowing strokes used in Swedish massages.'”

Teaching Mountain Lions to Ride a Treadmill: $856,000

The National Science Foundation shelled out nearly a million taxpayer dollars to determine if captive mountain lions could be trained to ride a treadmill. The University of California-Santa Cruz researcher even boasted about receiving the grant saying, “People just didn’t believe you could get a mountain lion on a treadmill, and it took me three years to find a facility that was willing to try.” If anyone was wondering, it took the lions all of eight months to learn.

Studying how many times “hangry” people stab a voodoo doll: $331,000

After teaching mountain lions about treadmills, the National Science Foundation also funded a study to come up with the self evident conclusion that hungry people tend to be more angry and aggressive. They tested this theory by allowing spouses to poke pins into voodoo dolls as their “hanger” grew.

“Over the course of twenty-one consecutive evenings, 107 couples were given a chance to stick up to 51 pins into a voodoo doll representing their spouse. The pin-pushing happened in secret, away from the other partner. Participants then recorded the number of pins they poked into the dolls. Those tests revealed what may already be obvious to many couples: a spouse with low blood sugar was an angrier one, and stuck more pins in the doll.”

Studying the gambling habits of monkeys: $171,000


Another NSF grant funded the study of gambling monkeys. Under the guise of studying the “hot-hand bias” in human gamblers, the University of Rochester devised a computer game, taught monkeys to play it, and studied how they responded to winning and losing. A doctoral candidate who worked on the study seemed pleased to learn, “Luckily, monkeys love to gamble.” Taxpayers, on the other hand, will not be pleased to find out this study is set to continue through May of 2018.

Producing the children’s musical: Zombie in Love: $10,000


The National Endowment for the Arts funded the production of a musical to die for. Aimed at children four and up, the musical tells the story of Mortimer the teenage zombie and his quest to find love and happiness. The NEA officials justified this use of tax money by saying that Mortimer “exemplifies anyone who has felt like an outsider.”

Funding a “Stoner Symphony”: $15,000

The location of this performance shouldn’t shock anyone. What is sure to shock taxpayers is the amount of their money that was provided to the Colorado Symphony Orchestra to host “Classically Cannabis: The High Note Series.” Not only was the program pot-related, the people were encouraged to inhale (and chow down) while watching.

“One of the three concerts, called Summer Monsoon, advertised on its website this way, ‘Smoke up and fill your belly with Manna’s spiced pork, Sesame Seed Teriyaki Chicken, & Filipino Empanadas.’”

Subsidizing Alpaca Poop: $50,000

In addition to this project making the cut for Sen. Coburn, this little gem was also covered by CNSNews.com last month. The U.S. Department of Agriculture shelled out a hefty sum to help develop and market Alpaca “Poop Packs” for use as fertilizer. This is government waste, literally.

Synchronized Swimming for Sea Monkeys: $307,524

This project garnered the support of three government agencies (National Science Foundation, Office of Naval Research, and U.S.-Israel Binational Science Foundation). In an effort to study the swirl created when sea monkeys move throughout the water, researchers developed a “laser guided,” “choreographed” team of synchronized swimming sea monkeys.

Produce a “Hallucinatory” Roosevelt/Elvis show: $10,000

In what could quite possibly be the weirdest project on this list, the NEA helped fund the production of a show about the hallucinatory journey of a girl pretending to be Elvis and gallivanting around with America’s 26th president.

“In one scene, Ann hallucinates that she is Elvis, and that she and Teddy are romping around their hotel room in their underwear, with Teddy eventually riding around on Elvis’s back as though he were a bucking bronco.”

Funding Climate Change Alarmist Video Game: $5.2 million

As polls show climate change is dead last on the Americans’ list of priorities, the NSF felt the need to help “spur climate change activism.” They paid Columbia University to develop a video game entitled “Future Coast,” where rising seas cause mass chaos and weather calamities of epic proportions. The story is set to a bunch of voicemails from the future describing the anarchy.

“One caller claims “neo-luddites” are out to kill anyone with scientific knowledge,496 and another paints a cryptic image of a zombie apocalypse saying that ‘when you see them, you will know what to do.’”

Teaching Kids to Laugh: $47,000

The National Endowment for the Humanities funded classes at UCLA and Butler University to teach college students about laughter. In seminar’s like “Why is it funny” student will presumably learn “how laughter plays with our perceptions” and “whether comedy is a ‘guy thing’.”

““As a final project, students will develop either a stand-up routine or a, “comedy piece using the tools of digital storytelling.”
Developing a real-life Iron Man Suit: $80 million

It seems the DoD is attempting to capitalize on the popularity of the Iron Man movies in order to develop its very own real-life replica. Dubbed TALOS (Tactical Assault Light Operator Suit), the Pentagon will spend the next four years trying to build a suit made “of military super-armor to withstand bullets and carry hundreds of pounds, all powered by [a] futuristic energy source.” But, there’s one slight problem, it doesn’t work:

“And while a promotional video for the TALOS program shows bullets ricocheting off a cartoon soldier dressed in the suit, field tests have so far found soldiers struggling to run, dive, and shoot when using the real thing.”

Tweeting at Terrorists: $3 million

The State Department is aiming to fight terrorists in ISIS and al-Qaeda online as well as on the battlefield. Its new program is intended to “counter the sophisticated propaganda machines of terrorist groups around the globe.” However, their Twitter campaign, “Think Again, Turn Away” has been almost universally panned as not only ineffective but also counter-productive.

“A recent commentator in Time Magazine put it more bluntly, saying, ‘this outreach by the U.S. government is not only ineffective, but also provides jihadists with a stage to voice their arguments...’”

Predicting the End of Humanity: $30,000

As opposed to finding new ways to explore the solar system, NASA is instead spending its budget on a study to predict how the world will end. Researchers from the University of Maryland and Minnesota came back with an intriguing and politically advantageous answer: Income inequality. They warned that an “unequal distribution of wealth” has “led to civilizational collapse.”

Funding Kids Dressing Like Fruits and Vegetables: $5 million

CNSNews.com. The University of Tennessee used $5 million of taxpayer money allowing student to dress up like fruits and veggies in an attempt to promote healthy eating habits. “Students created the term ‘fruved’ to describe ‘the process of eating FRUits and VEgetables.’”
“The students are divided into five teams – amusingly labeled Spinach, Carrot, Banana, Grapes, and Tomato – which are led by costumed mascots.”

Help Parents Counter Kids’ Refusals to Eat Fruits and Veggies: $804,254

In an attempt to aid parents across America whose kids have refused to eat their greens, the NIH has funded a Smartphone game called “Kiddio: Food Fight.” The game is supposed to help parents counter sophisticated childhood rebuttals like “Yuk!”

“Parents will select a vegetable to offer Kiddio and then select a tactic for influencing Kiddio to eat the veggie.”

Lost electronic devices from NASA: $1.1 million

It seems thousands of agency provided electronics are lost in space. NASA hasn't kept track of the thousands of Smartphones, tablets, and AirCards they've provided their employees. At the same time, “Over 2,000 devices – 14 percent of the total owned by the agency– went unused for at least 7 months from 2013-2014.” On the agency’s list of lost items, they've listed “laptops, video tapes, and moon rocks.”

Studying if Wikipedia is Sexist: $202,000

The NSF sent nearly a quarter of a million dollars to NYU and Yale researchers to study if any gender bias existed on the website Wikipedia. Because Wikipedia can be edited by almost anyone, the study followed “accusations of sexism in content and among contributors at Wikipedia.” One example of sexism uncovered by researchers was quite the bombshell:

Wikipedia contributors were biased because they had characterized some female novelists as “American Female Novelists” on Wikipedia, rather than “American Novelists.”

Asking heavy drinkers not to drink through text message: $194,090

Researchers plan to use this swath of taxpayer money to conduct a study wherein they text “heavy drinkers,” warn them not to drink, and monitor whether they do in fact get drunk.

“For example, some study subjects will get a daily 3 P.M. text message reminding them of the consequences of heavy drinking.”

Government Funded Ice Cream: $1.2 million

The USDA is paying dairy farmers to produce ice cream and many other dairy confections:

“In Wisconsin and New York, a farmer cooperative and creamery received a grant to expand production and marketing of organic Greek yogurt. A Missouri farm will be using a grant it received also to produce yogurt, but from sheep’s milk. A farm in Pennsylvania received a grant as well to expand its yogurt business but will use some of the money to build its Mexican chocolate business.”

 

The Obamacare website is working just fine. Maybe you're stuck in a Groundhog Day Timeloop.

Trump plans to increase the power of the military (requiring spending, not cuts), and the flubs you listed don't even dent Trump's 9.5 trillion.

 

I forgot to mention that the largest recipients of Trump's tax giveaway would be the Top 1%, who generally sit on the money and has almost zero economic benefit.

 

Perhaps.

Tech Issues Plague HealthCare.gov as Deadline Passes

The fact they had to "fix"it MULTIPLE times proves that it's faulty.

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If you provide me a credible link that gives me credible information regarding this, I won't argue fact.


If not.....

 

Regardless, Obamacare, the website, and its spin-offs are a huge success, and even deep red states love it (as long as you don't call it Obamacare). Hardly a good example of government waste.

 

Anyone who praises the Kelo miscarriage of justice is no conservative, and that includes Donald Trump.

 

It will be once a Republican gets into office and throws Obamacare out.

 

Is Forbes good enough?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway...-by-1-3-million-add-9-5-trillion-to-the-debt/

 

He doesn't. A while back, he said he supported it, but he condemned it within 5 minutes of saying that he supported it.

 

C'mon, man, you know better'n that. The only true ideology behind modern American conservatism is they ain't Obama and they ain't Clinton.

 

Never going to happen. People love Obamacare. They will be committing political suicide just to stick it to something associated with Obama. Red states love the ACA.

 

Why would you think the "Tea Party" supports Trump to begin with?