'The Force Awakens' is 100% SJW/Feminist propaganda !

You mean the childhood movie series where Princess Leia risked her life to sneak the plans of the Death Star to the rebels, did not reveal the rebel base under torture, only revealed the rebel base when an entire planet was threatened with annihilation and even then lied, could tell that Luke was not really a Storm Trooper even when it fooled all the other Storm Troopers, was able to handle a blaster better than Luke,. was less whiny than Luke (and her father), coordinated the attack on the Death Star, was a major player in the revolution, had a better disguise than Lando when sneaking into Jabba's lair. when captured by Jabba, ended up choking him to death with the very chains he had tied her up in (while wearing a bikini), was able to drive a speeder like nobody's business, made an alliance with the Ewoks to help fight the Empire and when was shot by a Storm Trooper, while Han was getting all emotional and let the Storm Troopers surround them, she came up with a plan to kill them. Is the the movie series you were referring too?

Also, I saw you had no mention of the ridiculousness of a Padawan being able to kill Darth Maul.

 

well, you see, Obi-Wan had testicles, so it was ok.

 

That reminds me -- apparently the OP has never heard of Ewoks. Primitive teddy bears with rocks, kites, rope and slingshots take out the most elite fighting force in the universe, but I guess that's only believable because they didn't have bewbs.

 

Most Ewoks were male, so its ok.

of course any Ewok being able to take out a platoon of Stormtrooper would have been kowtowing to the feminist agenda.,

 

Obviously she had some training and experience as evidenced by her earlier ability to fight off the would-be thieves and fly space ships with amazing precision. You are assuming that her time spent waiting her family has included no training or experience of any kind, which is clearly erroneous. More importantly, since when has training and experience been the overriding impetus for using the force? It is an innate ability, after all, and some have more innate ability than others. So maybe Rey has more innate ability than Kylo Ren and was therefore able to unlock it faster. Is there some rule in the Star Wars universe that precludes this? If so, I haven't heard of it.

 

The force works in mysterious ways. There is nothing to suggest that it cannot change based on circumstances. The problem is that you refuse to accept any other possibility aside from political correctness, when there are any number of explanations that are just as likely and perfectly consistent with the narrative's premises and concepts.

 

Here's a possibility. Maybe Kylo Ren purposely held back so he wouldn't kill her. After all, he did ask her to become his apprentice.

 

And the film not-so-subtly hints that she may be Luke's daughter. If Kylo was going around killing Luke's other apprentices, I wonder what he would do . . . hmm, maybe hide his daughter on a planet and try to wipe her memory using Force suggestion . . . only to have glimpses of his location show up in her dreams throughout her life?

 

At first certainly. That's how I saw it. As soon as he said what he said, it made sense. But once she goes Hulk Hogan, he wasn't holding back. Just couldn't buy it, unless they justify it with a memory wipe or something....she was one of the Jedi's being trained by Luke. AT least it would make some sense how she could be semi-competent with a light saber than suddenly much better than a guy who was pretty freaking powerful.

 

The force works in mysterious ways, bro. Try not to overthink it.

 

Women cannot swing a lightsaber properly because their boobs get in the way.

 

While I definitely do not agree with the OP as to the movies political ideology, I sadly agree with his meaning.

Luke took out the Death Star without training by using an X-Wing and the force. Lightsaber combat against anyone remotely familiar with the weapon would have and should have ended VERY badly.

I would have preferred they didnt have a lightsaber battle because it makes Kylo Ren look like a complete pansy. If he had even one month of training he would have handed Finn his but on a plate.

Other then that the movie was great! I just wish that wouldnt have happened, would have felt more REAL, if you will.

Now it is obvious that Kylo will be a super duper bad guy once they fix him up. Too many circles for me, wish they would come up with another story

 

Someone said John Wayne movies are Republican. They are right. Ever watch John in a love scene? First he grabs the woman forcefully, she fights back,but he persists. He then smashes his lips against hers while holding her tightly. She resists but is then overcome with lust as the he man forces himself upon her in some kind of rape fantasy worthy of "Baby, it's cold outside". After she gives in to his aggressive foreplay, she becomes the consummate female smitten with love and respect for his manly prowess. Then he kills some Indians, shoots a bad guy, punches some drunk in the face and rides away on his horse while the soundtrack makes you think of God, family and the Murican Man. Yep, it's full blown Republican porn alright.

 

I liked the movie. Just wish they had some topless and sex shots of the lead gal.

 

Boys, boys.......it's just a movie!! If they didn't make Rey a woman then it would have been EXACTLY like the 1st in 1977. If they wanted to have a progressive message she would have been gay. Relax
Avatar was a space age Dances with Wolves.

By the way.....all good movies.

 

Progressives can't do anything without pushing an agenda. Movies are no different. Everything has to have a diverse cast and the story lines are extremely predictable. Just think of the most politically correct outcome and you already know what will happen.

 

"women were not meant to be Jedi"

 

Everything has some agenda to it. No matter who you are.

Slavoj Zizek covers this pretty brilliantly in his film The Pervert's Guide to Ideology, in which he details how we are all inescapably bound to the ideas we hold and cannot see life objectively without being biased by them, and how pop culture shapes and is shaped by this fact.

If you made a film, your biases would also colour it.

Don't judge media by the biases of the creators, judge them by their creative merits.

Also: Everything you're saying is completely meaningless. "Most politically correct outcome"? What does that even mean? Are you trying to communicate some idea or piece of information, or did your rational brain just short out for a second while your subconscious mind caused you to instinctually keep spouting buzzwords?

 

WTF are you talking about??? Have you read the book?

 

Wrong. Comedy done for the sake of comedy is usually the best. In the 80's it became prevalent for sitcoms to always have a "message"(puke) then came one called Seinfeld that did comedy for the sake of comedy and blew them out of the water. Any art form should be done for the sake of the art form. Pushing an agenda only waters it down and makes it uninteresting.

 

he thinks its only ok for men to suddenly have miraculous level of skills in a movie.

 

She's going to turn out to be Luke's daughter. She was probably trained alongside Ben, and Luke probably mindwiped her after the massacre. So she's already a Jedi. She just doesn't know it. That's why she's able to do all that stuff.

Hans!

It was a great movie, I agree. But to be fair, you wouldn't see any political progressive messages in a Michael Moore movie.

Now you're totally right about this one.

 

Well, actually, transgender singer Laura Grace from Against Me! has expressed interest in making a cameo in the next movie stating something to the effect of, "With all these different types of creatures all around the galaxy, it makes sense that some of them somewhere would be transgender." Apparently there was an exchange between Grace and the official Star Wars account on Twitter. So who knows.

 

Maybe they mean Anakin, who was explicity acknowledged to have abilities before ever receiving any training.

We don't know that Rey was fast tracked. This is the first movie in a trilogy, and there were a number of hints that connected Rey's past to Luke. There was a line from Kylo Ren in the novelezation that seems to make this connection.

It seemed pretty obvious to me this wasn't Rey's first time using the force. Beyond probably using the force her whole life without realizing it (similar to the way Anakin had as a child), I suspect that when Kylo Ren was looking into her memories he may have awoken something in her from her past. She doesn't consciously use force powers until he interrogates her.

 

You don't even have to be consciously pushing an agenda to push an agenda.

Everyone has a set of biases. Those biases effect what we focus on, what information we notice most easily, what information we're exposed to, the type of things we enjoy, etc.

No matter what you do, those are going to have an impact on anything you create, even subconsciously. A given piece of media will inevitably express hundreds of little opinions, even on minor things.