Should Blacks Support Hillary Clinton?

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  1. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

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    What has Hillary done for blacks in the US that makes them support her? Her husband certainly didn't do a damn thing that I am aware of. Could someone please enlighten me on this point? As Ross Perot would say, I'm all ears.
     
  2. Alucard

    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    Hillary did not shun BLM. She wants equality for all. The overwhelming majority of African-Americans vote for the Democratic Nominee, and they certainly won't be voting for the GOP Nominee.
     
  3. LibChik

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    The point is that they do and they will.

    Why does the GOP bother trying to sway black voters....then throw peanuts at them or escort them out of political rallies for doing nothing.

    Black people aren't dumb...they'd rather have hope and vote for a party that may support them instead of one that is openly racist.

    Give it up...every election cycle republicans try to suggest this crap and every election, blacks overwhelming support Democratic candidates. Hillary already has the minority vote firmly locked up and the republicans waffling on the KKK and throwing black people out of rallies is simply validating what every black person already knows.

    The GOP is the party of racism and the large majority of black people won't be voting for them. Move on...
     
  4. Lil Mike

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    I can't imagine why they wouldn't. From their perspective, it's not like they have a lot of options.
     
  5. Sirius Black

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    A better question might be why do blacks choose not to support Republicans.
     
  6. DarkSkies

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    The only thing that I'm aware of is that with her support, her husband's policies were used to attack people's livelihoods and their communities.

    The only reason why Black people support Hillary, or any Democrat for that matter, is because around election time, they scare the hell out of the older people with the race-baiting stuff. The Democratic power players are a wee bit wicked it you ask me.
     
  7. Darkbane

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    heh I thought this was funny when you used the word "may" instead of "will"... I thought that was very subtle and telling freudian slip...

    I mean if the first black president hasn't solved the problem black people have faced, I'm not sure any democrat after him ever will either... education gap, income gap, employment gap... those gaps are still the same between whites and blacks... so its quite funny when I see someone say "may" help blacks instead of "will" help blacks...

    P.S. what will happen to blacks when democrats finally have enough hispanics to nullify the need for the black vote... I mean its already expected to negatively impact blacks if the illegals become legal... black unemployment gaps are expected to increase from already being twice that of white people... black teen unemployment even worse... thats why I am amazed that blacks continue to support democrats who are pushing immigration reform, its going to harm the black community the most of anyone...

    current january employment stats... from bureau of labor statistics...

    white 4.3%
    black 8.8%
    asian 3.7%
    hispanic 5.9%

    tell me, what "may" have democrats done for blacks? it certainly wasn't the employment gap...
     
  8. Penrod

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    No one should support that lying hag.
     
  9. Papastox

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    She keeps saying that she is Obama II. Under Obama there are more Blacks than ever on welfare and food stamps. He hasn't done anything for them and neither will she.

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    That CRIMINAL lying hag...
     
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    Nobody should support a liar. At least a lie that involves lives.
     
  11. Tipper101

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    It doesn't matter what she's done. It only matters what they are told. I don't know of any other demographic that votes consistently at rates of 80-90+% like Black People do. They appear to have no ability whatsoever of thinking for themselves, because even when it's their own Party, they are choosing one Democrat over another Democrat as a single group. When was the last time we saw anywhere even remotely close to 50-50 split amongst blacks?

    Black people go to church. They listen to their religious and political leaders. And they do what they are told. Right now they are being told to vote for Hillary. End of story.
     
  12. Lil Mike

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    Yes but put yourself in their position. They are at the bottom of most indicators for well being, employment, education, you name it. And they're only 13% of the population. They only have one card to play to have power in society and that's block voting. That gives them outsize influence in the Democratic Party. If it were just up to white Democrats, Bernie Sanders would be the Democratic nominee, but in areas that have relatively large Black populations, they are the tail that wags the Democratic dog. I think the South Carolina primary was a perfect example of that. With block voting, every Democrat who wants to be someone has to kow tow to Sharpton and the Civil Rights infrastructure.

    In a few decades, who knows? White people might be looking at block voting.
     
  13. Tipper101

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    But in explaining why they block vote you give every reason for them to not block vote. When you've been block voting for decades and your group has nothing to show for it and in some cases are regressing, you satisfy one of the definitions of insanity by continuing to keep voting the same way. It's not like their voting doesn't have power. It's not like they vote one way but the other guy gets picked. They get their way plenty often. We're still dealing with the President they voted for. And none of it has done anything for them.

    If I were a black person, I'd sure as hell be questioning the faith at this point, and I don't mean Christianity.
     
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    It wasn't a freudian slip. I think they may help...but they won't hurt...which is what republikkkans do to black voters.

    I'm fine with a candidate who's a net neutral for black voters rather than voting for the GOP openly racist party.
     
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    Most black individuals are not stupid, but as a group, you can't get any more ignorant. It's been 50+ years that the dems have owned them...literally, and look at how far they've come!
     
  16. PatriotNews

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    Well I can tell you that it wasn't Donald Trump that attended the funeral of
    KKK leader Senator Robert Byrd. It also wasn't Donald Trump that gave
    the Presidential Medal of Freedom to someone who signed the Southern
    Manefesto, who was a segregationist, who voted against the 1964 Civil
    Rights Act, and voted against the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

    That was the Clinton's who did that.
     
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    Not enough talk about free stuff and reparations.
     
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    well once again another slipup... you want a net neutral candidate... if immigration reform passes and illegals become legal, that will harm blacks... thats a net loss...

    hence you just proved republicans would be a net neutral and democrats would be a net loss... lol... see how bad this keeps getting the more you argue...

    P.S. here's a hint, you should probably argue that blacks should just form their own party and run their own candidate... thats the only way it won't be a net loss right? well unless that candidate supports immigration and a lot of other things that have kept blacks down over the decades... heh...
     
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    Black people do have a long history of voting for democrats.

    Like George Wallace, Orval Faubus, Al Gore Sr., and William Fulbright and many, many other
    racist segregationist democrats who stopped them from integrating into the schools and voted
    against the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Also KKK members like
    Senator Robert Byrd and Harry Truman.

    Also racists like Woodrow Wilson who played a pro-Klan movie in the White House, FDR who
    appointed a KKK lawyer to the US Supreme Court, and JFK and LBJ who voted to weaken
    the 1957 and 1960 Civil Rights Acts.
     
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    sorry I just had to find a way to work that picture in... it just continues to crack me up on so many ironic things about this election cycle... you just can't make this stuff up...
     
  21. Lil Mike

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    Well politics can't fix the problems that ail the black community, so voting for a Democrat or a Republican won't change the fundamentals, but I'm sure they feel better when they exercise political power to have politicians groveling before them.
     
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    You can't stop immigration. The very idea is simplistic and stupid.

    And if you wanted to slow down immigration, the best policy would have been to not support the Iraq war or any other action that generates refugees coming into this country.

    Unless you're Native American, I don't know why so many right-wing bigots think they should have an opinion on immigration anyway. Immigration didn't stop just because your potato-eating relative got off a boat.

    Blacks have zero problem with smart immigration policies...that crap is for GOP bigots....so don't bother.

    I'll be voting Democratic and so will most women, minorities, homosexuals and non-religious extremists...get over it already.

    The republican party can't even manage to definitively disavow the klan ....puhleaze....
     
  23. Johnny-C

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    Exactly!! And Black Americans are looking at things like voting and civil rights, on a VERY long arc. They are not so "short-sighted", as many might imagine.

    Losing to Republicans, is what most minority Americans are concerned about. The GOP has hardly been 'kind' or 'helpful' to Blacks and other minorities in the last 50 years.
     
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    IF... the GOP would 'actually' address the needs and concerns of Black Americans and other minorities... they might attract some loyal followers. But the screw those same people, every opportunity they get. Indeed... Black people (especially) are not fooled by Republicans and Conservatives.
     
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    wow slow down the personal attacks and insults please... I made no such derogatory statements towards you... show some respect for people who disagree... don't be mad at me because I proved your statements were incorrect and actually harmful to black americans... its not my fault you were wrong...

    the best way to slow down immigration is to penalize employers substantially when they hire illegals, and to require every new hire to have a copy of their birth certificate on file... or we could skip all that and simply require them to show a "REAL ID"... you remember that REAL ID law that passed years ago, that was supposed to link a drivers license with a birth certificate, you might be aware of it if you have recently gone in to renew your drivers license or state ID card... it requires a birth certificate now... however some people can still get one without the birth certificate, but it must clearly state on the front it does not quality as a REAL ID since you didn't provide it...

    once we tackle their ability to get employment, most won't have any reason to come here because employers will be afraid of the random audits to check employees... currently many are not worried because the fines levied are so low that its almost worth trying to see how long you can go before you get busted and then pay the same fine, which you more than made up in savings from paying them below average wages... thats how we solve this issue, go after employers by requiring employees to prove citizenship... once you increase those fines substantially, or as some would want jail time (I think that should only be for intentional deception cases)...

    P.S. getting rid of all the illegals in the workforce today... would actually help blacks the most, as many more jobs would be open, and once blacks fill those jobs, we will still have a worker shortage, which will put pressure on wages for those low income jobs and increase their pay... so we would reduce unemployment and increase wages... thats the best thing that could happen to black america... but if we legalize all those illegals, the exact opposite will happen and blacks will suffer massively...
     

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