Should Blacks Support Hillary Clinton?

lmao....like any black person would trust anything a republikkklan would have to say about "helping black people"...

Most blacks will be voting Democratic and supporting immigration policies....period.

 

whats the voting rights issue? requiring a state ID? are blacks incapable of getting a state ID? heck my state even pays for a FREE ID if they can't afford it... just provide your birth certificate (which you can also get for free) and your social security card (which you also can get for free) and then you get your free state ID...

whats the voting rights issue for that? because thats all people in the last election cycle of my state talked about... and I don't understand why the estimated 7% of our citizens who don't have a state ID were complaining about? I mean we'll give you a free one, and it will be very useful since you need one for so many other things...

I also would assume blacks should be furious about democrat immigration policies... once all those people are legalized, it will hurt blacks the most out of any ethnicity... if instead we toughened up laws on hiring illegals, and required those state IDs I just mentioned linked to a birth certificate now because of the REAL ID law, we could flush illegals out of the system, creating a dramatic worker shortage across this nation... that would drive down black unemployment numbers dramatically, and it still wouldn't be enough to fill the jobs, so with that worker shortage we would put upward pressure on wages as employers compete to fill those jobs... black america would benefit...

thats why I just don't understand the hyperbole about republicans being racist and the enemy... the democrats are going to harm black america more than ever with illegals...

 

"may" support them? They're poorer than they ever were under the Obama Administration. Or is that also a right wing conspiracy? The Left only sells talking points to minorities, screws them over in November and then repeats the process.

 

so basically you can't dispute anything I just said, so all you have left is to say things like "kkk" and try to demean and belittle my statements... you know usually in a debate and discussion you offer counter points that dispute the claims made by the other side, to support your position... but when you can no longer support your position because your facts no longer add up you generally resort to name calling and demeaning the other side to deflect your shortcomings of logic and facts...

I see you have taken that approach...

P.S. I don't deny most blacks will vote democrat, I simply don't understand why, their policies will harm blacks the most like I showed...

 

I'm a minority and doing far better under Obama than under GWB. In fact, I've always done better under Democrats...so does everyone else. Democrats always improve the overall job market and the economy in comparison to republikkkans.

I'll take the current employment rate over the one that was existed during GWB's last 4 years any day of the week.

You can keep trying but I guarantee you that the majority of blacks will be voting for the Democratic candidate...they're not going to believe anyone in the GOP....it is NEVER going to happen. I laugh every election cycle when the republikkkans try this crap. They can't stay consistent either. Two seconds later, they'll be throwing black people out of rallies or throwing peanuts at them.

 

Are you unaware of current events and the problems being discussed?

You can play 'ignorant', but Black people will see right through that and support the politicians of their choice... accordingly.

 

As other's have asked, what is their option?

 

Apparently its not with a party that says stuff like "i don't know who david duke is...I don't know anything about the klan..."

 

I think the current employment rate's a fib, so do most. And given what we know about stagnating wages, we also know that means there's a higher than average underemployed rate. So, we're Mexico of the 21st century and this is supposed to be an improvement?

But hey, I'm glad you're one of the FEW minorities doing better under Obama. But considering the vast majority aren't, does that say something about them or Democrats? Keep in mind your 'republikkans' didn't have the Senate for 6 out 8 years of Obama's term. So, what's the right wing conspiracy this time?

 

well clearly I asked you to define and tell me what voting rights issue you are suggesting... I clearly cited the one voting rights issue that was discussed in the last election cycle of my state, it all revolved around what I already explained and demonstrated is a null and void point... and then I further went on to demonstrate how another democrat policy would harm blacks... and you didn't address or respond to that as well... so PLEASE inform me of the specific points so we can discuss them, isn't that what we are here on this website to do... discuss the issues... so PLEASE tell me the specific voting rights issue you are citing and PLEASE respond to my immigration issue that is democrat policy... show me how everything I just got done saying is wrong and that I somehow don't get it... I'm begging you to engage the discussion...

P.S. basically I want more than "if you're too stupid to understand I'm not going to tell you"... engage me and discuss the points I brought up and how they're untrue...

 

Tavis Smiley says it might not happen that way.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...oters-primary-elections-2016-column/81150932/

 

here's a hint for next time you discuss this with someone... instead of trying to defeat the "unemployment number" issue which they always dodge... steer towards the unemployment gap between blacks and whites... thats remained constant and black unemployment has been double white unemployment for decades... thats an almost impossible issue for them to debunk since we can clearly cite the numbers and its actually an issue they used to bring up, but since they've failed to address it they stopped... it keeps you out of the trap of "real employment number" which they constantly reject because their media website tell them its all hyperbole and lies... but they can't reject and deny the unemployment gap remains today even after Obama, which is the true measure of minority success in america... still twice as bad! lol... 50 years and going!

P.S. basically huffington post hasn't released a talking point how to dismiss or debunk this topic... so they are left with personal thoughts trying to explain that... it doesn't work well for people who don't have rehearsed talking points from the media to parrot in the discussion... its almost like a dirty trap they can't escape... the venus fly trap of black talking points!

P.S.S. when they say "blacks are doing better under Obama than under Bush" you say "then why is the black unemployment gap under Obama still double that of whites, shouldn't that have decreased if blacks are doing better, but it hasn't"... (depending on dates used you could say its actually gotten worse, best to use averages but lets be honest, people cherry pick dates to mislead)

 

Not explaining why supporting clinton, i suspect black leader endorsement.

But why they go D over R.
http://blackdemographics.com/culture/black-politics/

 

Nah. They should vote for Trump. "He'll Make America White Again!"

And his supporters are sooo welcoming.

[video=youtube;FXq_WBV3_YI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXq_WBV3_YI[/video]


There are a couple of assaults on that video. I hope the authorities are investigating properly.

 

while I can agree the private citizens had no legal authority to put their hands on her... security would have ultimately done the same thing since she was resisting leaving... would you demand the security be arrested for using force against someone refusing to comply with orders to leave? I would have no problem with the people who were not representing the event being charged with battery (which would get pleaded down to almost nothing), as long as the young woman is also charged with disorderly conduct and resisting (which would get pleaded down to almost nothing)... I'm an equal opportunity law enforcer...

 

There is definitely a racist component on the right that composes the Republican party. That said, there are some liberal racists in the Democratic party, it's just that the Democrats don't do a whole lot to appeal to them. The problem for blacks is that the Democrats take them for granted because they know they don't have anywhere else to go. So they have to be satisfied with the very small meager crumbs they are fed. Its really sad the situation black folks are in. Very sad. Reminds me of the Palestinians. Just beat up forlorn people that no one wants.

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So it appears you are saying is that there isn't any good reason for blacks to vote for Republicans.

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Perhaps its because of what another poster APPEARED to imply. That's because Republicans haven't given them any reason to. Those dog whistles don't help.

 

LMAO!!! I never heard it put like that. Yep, the older ones surely remember what it was like. And they sure are hell don't want to go back to that!!!! LOL!!!!

Good one!!!

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Well they are all a bunch of liars, so if you went by that, there would be no one left.

 

You gave an explanation for why they vote in blocks. That doesn't explain why they block vote for Democrats instead of Republicans.

 

Honestly, I can't think of a good reason to. That's not to say that in the things that matter, jobs, and education; they're better off voting for Democrats, but I do think they feel like their block voting gives them a stake in the system, even if they get nothing out of it. So why shouldn't they keep voting Democrat for the next 50 years?

 

Im sure that there is no shortage of Angry White Guys more than eager to tell Black Americans what they should do.

 

That was pretty good. I think I agree with that. The Democrats have done a good job at making blacks think they have a stake in the system. The other thing is that LBJ actually did do some things. So the Democrats are coasting from that.

 

I don't think it matters in any practical sense whether they vote for Republicans or Democrats as long as they block vote. They can at least feel powerful.

Right now, I can't think of a reason why the white working class should continue to vote for Republicans. The establishment of the party are opposed to the two biggest issues that effect working class interests. But at least the white working class knows they've been had and are doing something about it. But tell me, do you want the black voting block to wake up and realize they've been had by the Democrats? I think that's more dangerous to public order, so I would rather they keep voting for Democrats and stay asleep.

 

It was Bill Clinton who made possession of crack - the low dollar version of cocaine used and sold in the black community - having dramatically higher mandatory jail terms than for possession of purer powdered cocaine - what most whites use for cocaine. This has sent many, many, many blacks to prison for years or decades for crack cocaine possession, while white people for the same possession of purer cocaine get probation.

When asked if she would change this, Hillary Clinton's answer was no. Simply put, Clinton believes blacks should go to prison longer than whites. The rational by Bill Clinton at the time was that BLACK gangs are "super predators" and since crack sales are related to BLACK gangs, then blacks with crack cocaine should to to prison much, much longer than whites with powdered cocaine.

The media will never breath a word of this.

 

yeah FDR and LBJ were geniuses in coopting black support

its like addicts who are under the control of pushers. and when Blacks here the GOP talk, its like telling an addict to go cold turkey

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well back in the day there was a saying

Massa Lincoln done freed us but Massa Roosevelt's gonna feed us and since then the Blacks have been dependent on the Democrat party

and since the Blacks don't critically examine their dependence, the Dems haven't really had to do much to keep them on "the plantation"

 

they lose both ways. the Democrats don't have to work for the black vote so the Dems don't have to (*)(*)(*)(*) off other interest groups (like Hispanics and unmarried women) by catering to blacks. and since blacks are generally acting like sheep and won't vote for the GOP no matter what the GOP does, the GOP doesn't have to upset its interest groups by pandering to blacks who won't vote GOP anyway

means the blacks don't have either party really carrying about the serious pathologies infecting black society such as high rates of illegitimacy low rates of graduation, and massive rates of violent crime