Republican who used to hate Obama: "he saved my life"

Could've , should've , would've amounts to one tall pile of steamy crapodoola.... "they" didn't and that is the point.


The preexisting condition Stop Sign existed basically with individuals buying health coverage instead of being part of a group such as those buying through large employers. Also in some case with small group policies.

Why was it not available ? Because it costs money..... there ain't no free lunch people !!! simple.....

You would have had to force insurance companies to not use pre-existing conditions. For individual health insurance policies which are rated on an individual risk basis us big bad mean nasty insurance companies could not afford to insure jamokes with preexisting conditions.

Why ? Because for individuals we cannot spread the risk...... as we can do with large groups. That is why for large groups there virtually was no pre-existing condition STOP SIGNS.

Look people insurance is a game of large numbers and SPREADING THE RISK !!!! We can spread the risk among thousands of people when we cover large groups therefore we can absorb those with pre-existing conditions.

It there FREE LUNCH with that plan ?

Hell no !!!!! We spread the risk, we spread the costs, and we made the rest of the group pay for the costs of providing pre-existing condition waiver.

You paid for the pre-existing condition coverage for others when you were part of a large group.

Under the AHC act companies are forced to insure people with pre-existing conditions. How ? Who pays ? Is that fair ?


Under Obama CARE companies are forced by law to provide or best said not exclude people with pre-existing conditions.

How is this done ?

They have to treat everyone who buys in the exchange as a sort of group just the same as when you buy coverage through your employer group.


Who pays ?

Just as with group insurance policies gotten through employer groups - YOU PAY !!! I PAY !!! WE ALL PAY !!!!!

WHY ? The risk is spread to all of us..... we all "share" in the cost of insurance. It's the law of large numbers !!


And !!!!!!!!!!...........................

Because there ain't no free lunch !!

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Could've , should've , would've amounts to one tall pile of steamy crapodoola.... "they" didn't and that is the point.


The preexisting condition Stop Sign existed basically with individuals buying health coverage instead of being part of a group such as those buying through large employers. Also in some case with small group policies.

Why was it not available ? Because it costs money..... there ain't no free lunch people !!! simple.....

You would have had to force insurance companies to not use pre-existing conditions. For individual health insurance policies which are rated on an individual risk basis us big bad mean nasty insurance companies could not afford to insure jamokes with preexisting conditions.

Why ? Because for individuals we cannot spread the risk...... as we can do with large groups. That is why for large groups there virtually was no pre-existing condition STOP SIGNS.

Look people insurance is a game of large numbers and SPREADING THE RISK !!!! We can spread the risk among thousands of people when we cover large groups therefore we can absorb those with pre-existing conditions.

It there FREE LUNCH with that plan ?

Hell no !!!!! We spread the risk, we spread the costs, and we made the rest of the group pay for the costs of providing pre-existing condition waiver.

You paid for the pre-existing condition coverage for others when you were part of a large group.

Under the AHC act companies are forced to insure people with pre-existing conditions. How ? Who pays ? Is that fair ?


Under Obama CARE companies are forced by law to provide or best said not exclude people with pre-existing conditions.

How is this done ?

They have to treat everyone who buys in the exchange as a sort of group just the same as when you buy coverage through your employer group.


Who pays ?

Just as with group insurance policies gotten through employer groups - YOU PAY !!! I PAY !!! WE ALL PAY !!!!!

WHY ? The risk is spread to all of us..... we all "share" in the cost of insurance. It's the law of large numbers !!


And !!!!!!!!!!...........................

Because there ain't no free lunch !!

 

But they never did...and never would have

 

Don't waste too much time -- RP is never gonna get it.

 

Except they don't. They end up raising rates elsewhere to cover your costs

 

So after cancelling millions of policies, increasing medical costs by trillions, causing us to lose jobs and turning full time ones into part time jobs, and limiting pretty much everyone's choice of doctor unless they're willing to pay more, the best you can do is point to one person who actually benefitted from all the pain, suffering and misery millions of people had to endure so Obamacare could do what it was actually promised to do? One person? Just one?

 

Your talking points are as false as they are stale. But carry on!

 

So we subtract one from all the people he killed?

 

agree, but they are not rising as fast as under Bush

I think we should of got the public option Obama wanted, that would of lowered costs

 

Besides Brent saying so, where's the proof that he is a registered Republican and where's the proof that he voted for Republicans his entire life????

 

The more important point...is that the ACA saved his life.

You gonna dispute that next?

 

Nowhere does your graph mention if the jobs are full or part time and come with benefits. Schools and governments were laying off or cutting hours to avoid obamacare and they did so by the thousands.

 

Man: Myth! Myth! There's a fly in my soup.

Waitress: That's not a fly! It's a lie!

Man: What's a lie.

Waitress: That the ACA is going to lower costs. Especially since the Congress stopped the Obama from writing a blank check to the insurance companies to cover their loses. The ACA has a provision that insurance companies that make money will be taxed, and those taxes would be paid to unprofitable companies to offset loses. But since the beginning of the program, companies that lost money far outweighed profitable companies. The HHS planned to cover the shortfalls by adding to the national debt. Congress has passed a bill that limits HHS to use only the money that it take from the profitable companies. So, insurance companies are going have to pass those losses on to their customers. It has gotten so bad that United Healthcare is pulling out of the ACA. This means healthcare costs will continue to rise.

 

My socialized healthcare would have made sure you had the chance to get the problem treated before running up a hospital bill worth (likely) tens of thousands that you wound up walking away from. That's how such things work.

 

Like the VA?

 

Try Medicare. The VA should be absorbed into Medicare, with veterans being given the same access to hospitals and clinics nationwide that Medicare recipients already enjoy. No more being restricted to VA hospitals and facilities, and being forced to travel hours to reach them, they should have access to any available medical facility in their local area and have it fully covered as part of their VA benefits.

 

Republicans were never interested in addressing anything related to healthcare. It took a democrat president and a super majority in congress to get the ACA through. Perhaps if the republicans would have put country first and contributed something meaningful to the bill, it would be more effective.

 

Read it slowly again... You might see your error.

 

The democrats didn't put country first they put power first. That's why instead of doing it right, they did it in a back room then passed it before they read it. But you go ahead and buy that bull (*)(*)(*)(*) line things are better now.

Just watch 3 weeks after the next president is sworn in, if it's a republican, the press will two us the world is falling apart and it's all the new president's fault. Obama will skate off into the sunset a mediocre President who chose the authoritarian way over the democratic process.

 

Oh God .. does the man strike you as a liar and should we fly to Wisconsin and make him prove it?

 

To be fair, the cons couldn't be bothered.
Thanks, Obama.

 

We will never know now will we.. instead we got a bill only Gruberites and freeloaders like ~ ( outside of the pre-existing clause)

 

We should have him waterboarded until he admits it

 

Thanks for re-posting this item which I did on another thread.

Right wingers like to ignore this type of TRUTH but it is one that will never go away.

ACA has clearly proven itself to be a success which has created jobs, saved money, and saved lives.


This is manifest proof that cannot be denied.

 

Where do forums such as this find these characters anyway?

 

The ACA allowed my parents insurance to cover me until this year, allowing me to almost pay off my student loans in 4 years.