Republican AND Christian? How does THAT work?

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Works of faith prove that one is saved they do not produce salvation rather they are a reflection of it. There is no faith absent works, faith is never sterile or still borne. Demas walked with Paul for a decade or more but in the end he left because faith had no root in him.

    According to the parable of the seed and the sower there are four types of people in the world those who are saved and are informed, those who are saved and not yet informed, and those who are not God's and don't care and those who think themselves God's and are not. It can be quite difficult for the human eye to tell the last from the first and the 2nd from the 3rd.
     
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    saspatz Member Past Donor

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    Only God can know the human heart. I agree that works without faith are meaningless. My point was to demonstrate that faith without works is dead. The person I was responding to seemed to think that faith had no evidence in behavior. That somehow the saved did not need to put forth any effort. To the contrary, those who walk with God are called to deeper commitment and greater surrender of self.
     
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    there is only one political party that would institute this, the republicans, and the second they do that, the unions of the faculty, as well as the entire democrat party, will wage war on them and make sure every republican who voted for that, is removed from office... and then the democrats put in place after that, will change the law to make it worthless, or repeal it completely... the only way this would ever be sustainable is in a republican stronghold that is beyond contestation... and lets be honest, no democrat lead state would ever consider passing this...

    plus the efficiency of this is still wasted on the notion that grades means success... this would leave many people rejected from universities simply because the universities now have to cater to laws paying them based on grades... do you realize what something like that would do to many people who sure are not the best students, sure are a stretch for getting a degree, but some of them make it and do, and some of them go on to live a much better life... but some will not... now you're telling the universities to jack up the requirements and only accept the top students and not allow any of the bottom ones in because their funding is at risk...

    and just to further upon this point, I can already tell you within the first month which students will likely succeed in "job placement" before they've even gotten a degree... its the same way I am able to tell which job applicants over the decades are the most likely to be successful or work out for my companies... the ones who don't just apply, but took the time to figure out what the companies specifically did, and tailored their resumes to addressing needs within those industries, and then followed up after submitting a resume and asking for an interview... those are the people who we didn't always interview, but we always gave that resume a second look, and sometimes would interview them even if we didn't feel the resume looked right, but the motivation behind the person was the selling point for us... this is real life vs paper statistics... real life doesn't always match up to paper statistics, which is the grades and job placements you want... its about drive and determination and willingness to seek success...

    so all your theory would do, is penalize under-performing students, and restrict higher education to those who get better grades... you would leave massive segments of our population excluded merely because institutions couldn't afford to roll the dice... where before it was just seeing if they could get them loans... so once again another solution that creates more "unintended consequences" just like forgiving student debt or giving them more money does... it doesn't tackle the root cause, education is too expensive... how important that education is, is not the question, its the cost, restricting access to certain types of students doesn't change the problem, just the symptoms people end up having... now you'll exclude large numbers of people from ever even having the chance once universities are encouraged to discriminate against "average" students... or people who score low on several tests that rate how well a student will perform in interviews or the application process at a company...
     

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