Keep calm, Trump is not responsible for this.......

A Donald trump version of the Gestapo will make sure the only riots that are not quickly surprised will be
anti Muslim and anti immigrant


A Trump presidency would destroy this country

According to Don black the owner of the website storm front
Donald trump has energized the white supremacist movement like no one has
In over 60 years

 

Which gives him a unique opportunity to demolish them once and for all.

The reason white supremacists like Trump is because they believe non whites won't be able to cut it in a world where hard work is required to survive. Once they show that they can, white supremacists will either turn on Trump for not helping the cause or logically stop being white supremacists.

It is my opinion that the left promotes white supremacy by insisting that opposition to welfare is racist, clearly implying that minorities require welfare since they can't contribute anything of value to society. The left excuses its own racism by coddling and babying the races it apparently sees as inferior. But they aren't. Blacks would fare just fine if you would only stop giving their jobs to foreigners who bring wages down and eliminate the bargaining power of the worker. They would prove themselves to the white supremacists and the democrats who insist they don't have what it takes.

Anyone who wants to put Americans to work will appeal to white supremacists, due to their erroneous beliefs. Democrats share those erroneous beliefs about blacks. The only difference is the choice to coddle or not coddle, in my opinion.

 

If I reply to you expressing what I think of you or what I think of your posts
I may violate rules of the board
I hope telling you I think your response is ridiculous is not a violation of rules

 

Like I said, there is really only one ass I am interested in kicking. If you can tell him for me tho, I'd be much obliged.

 

I have never reported anyone for a rules violation and won't start now.

The bigger issue, I feel, is that there are legitimate points I have made that are begging to be countered with substantive arguments and reasoning, yet you, presumably, feel the only viable route is to insult me personally. This is the nature of modern politics which Donald Trump has positioned himself as a caricature of, leading many people who criticize his methods into a pool of hypocrisy. This is yet another reason that I support Trump.

If my beliefs offend you to the point that you can't counter them with an actual argument, then it is hard to envision how I would ever change my beliefs. I truly prefer arguments to the contrary, as I am always looking to change my views in light of compelling new evidence.

 

If I happen to run into him, it will be the first thing I mention. Go ahead and hold your breath...

 

Not a dream. Probably a deliberate false allegation of a hate crime. Happens all the time.

 

1. Well, I see it has progressed to the point where you have to resort to name calling because you don't have any real response or arguments left.

2. It's you who has "serious issues." The main one that comes to mind is that you can't seem to grasp that my original post was in response to an explicitly racist one about "black thugs." If you really care about racism, you would be responding to that post. But you don't, of course. Because you implicitly condone racism and xenophobia as long as it's directed against colored people. Which is a serious issue.

3. Let me thrown out a few conservative memes commonly used as a response to charges of racism, which I'll ironically mobilize against you:
"Stop pulling the race card!"
"You're just being politically correct."
"You're being racist to me! Reverse racism!"

4. If you can't see that you're being racist against blacks by bothering me about my supposed "racism" towards whites while saying nothing about the post I was responding to, with its complaints about "black thugs" assaulting white women and its explicit dog-whistling, I don't know what to tell you.

5. Don't think it hasn't escaped my notice that I wasn't even being very xenophobic in my post. You just decided to trot out the "reverse racism" conservative talking point because I mentioned white neo-fascist Trump supporters in a bad light. Which is clearly more of a political attack than a racist one. Where did I make a broad statement against all whites?

6.You know, there's really no reason why rhetorical attacks on blacks should be perceived differently than rhetorical attacks on whites. It's not like whites systematically kept blacks enslaved for hundred of years using using terror tactics, then kept them artificially impoverished through segregation for another hundred years, before creating a system in which institutionalized racism that currently ensures that blacks are much more impoverished that whites, or anything.

7.What's truly disturbing is that you find my post offense and racist while seeing no problem with statements like "Black Thugs beat down old people riding the subway, white women walking down the street minding their own business" from the post I was responding to.

8. You've offered no real response to my assertion that racism can only occur if their is a societal system of economic and legal inequality operating behind it. In other words, can you please provide an example in the modern era of how whites were oppressed by a non-white government for centuries and/or a modern nation in which whites are the underclass economically? Then we can have a actual argument.

9.No, but the blatant racism on this website is starting to make me see the reasons for joining up.

10. I love it when conservatives act like BLM are an extreme organization. No offense, but they're pretty lightweight: basically, a moderate liberal organization composed of college-age people of color with a focus on race issues that like doing mildly disruptive protests. Unlike Trump neo-fascist supporters, they don't really use violence to further their cause. Moreover, the New Black Panthers are a fringe organization. I'd worry more about white supremacist groups, which are currently the greatest terrorist threat to the United States and its citizens.

 

If the guy wasn't Trump or someone taking orders from Trump, then no, Trump wasn't responsible. Nor does Trump tell people to attack other people.

What is with all of this ridiculous propaganda from the anti-Trump crowd?

 

1. I've already responded to this, so I'll just copy my response below.

"I see you didn't read anything I wrote. My point was that this conservative talking point about "illegals" is completely disingenuous. Conservatives were the ones who took illegal actions in the first place that created the so-called "illegals". In other words, all this dog-whistling about "illegals" is nothing but a desperate attempt to cover up the horrible outcomes of illegal and corrupt conservative policies. So, on the contrary, what's truly dishonest is to claim that it's "plain and simple" that "illegals" are criminals. Reagan and his buddies are and were criminals. Plain and simple. Keyword: IRAN-CONTRA."

Now, can you explain to me why we label the people who were affected by the illegal policies of Reagan as "illegal", and don't instead transfer the "illegal" label to the ideological circle that took those illegal actions in the first place; namely, the modern Republican party?

As far as I can tell, the logic is that the people who came here "illegally" must be labeled illegal because they "broke the law". I'm fine with this if we also agree to label Reagan and the Republicans as "illegals" because they flagrantly violated both U.S. and international law.

2. Already done so.

Here's some information about it:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...-study-n380931
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10342987.html

 

You are just race baiting. I never condone racism in any shape form or fashion by any race on any other race. Racism is one of the stupidest beliefs that I can think of. I judge people on actions and character not the color of their skin.

Because I don't agree with your rediculous racist assertion that only whites can be racist because they are the majority in his country does not make me a racist. It makes me capable of independent thought.

I do not even believe in reverse racism. Racism is racism no matter which race it is perpetrating it.

If you don't think BLM is a racist organization you haven' been paying attention.

If you think a bunch of fringe white supremicists are the main terror threat to the U.S. then you are either getting your information from idiots or are an idiot yourself.

 

Take the word trump out of this story, read it again and then ask yourself if you buy it.

 

Well now of course it's a false allegation, because we all know that everybody in this country loves Mexicans & Muslims.......

 

Here, Here, Yes, Yes my good man, Bully, Bully, Balderdash...........and all that other English sounding BS.

That's what you sound like.

"What is with all of this ridiculous propaganda from the anti-Trump crowd?"

I don't know, but I'm sure you have all the answers as to why there are Trump supporters all over this country harassing people, and beating them up in the streets..........................while they're invoking their messiah's name.

 

Are they? I'm aware of one lone instance of such a thing occurring. So, there you go, spreading propaganda again. Why is that?

 

Tell you what, at this moment I absolutely believe this story 100%, but to be fair.........

I'll throttle back, and put myself on reserve until the story has been confirmed beyond belief.

I'll continue to follow this story, and I promise to do a follow up on it when it is confirmed one way or the other.

I hope for your sake, and all the other unbelievers in here that it pans out to be false, because I'd hate to be a fly on the wall in your houses when you all find out otherwise.

 

You know of what you know because you have not bothered to either dig or pay attention to what's available for the world to see all over the internet.

I have posted several stories of Trump supporters behaving this way in this forum.

I have posted several stories in this forum backed up with links.

I have posted several video's showing many incidents of Trump's supporters losing their minds.

Propaganda........seriously, dude get a clue.

 

I have seen more violence at a soccer match than at any of Trumps rallies....of course you no doubt think folks cheering for Trump are engaging in hateful behavior................bwaaaaaa the hatred most evident is liberals hating on Trump....even to the point of trying to deny him his right of holding rallies and free speech......just blatant attempts to interefere with the electoral process.....bottom line: Trump just won 4 out of 5 states in yesterdays electiion....try and deal wid dat....try and deny the peoples choice....do you really think the elections should be canceled as well as Trumps rallies. Just axing.

 

I used to like Ted.....anyhow....seems like everything that happens works to the donald's benefit...why is dat? Perhaps Cruz is wrong...The Donald has been annointed by the Higher Powers instead of teddy? Jus sayin...ya know whut I mean foe sho.

 

First...........why do you spell your words like that?

Second, take a look at these stories:

Donald Trump Warns There Could Be Riots If He Isn't GOP Nominee
"I wouldn’t lead it, but I think bad things would happen."

WASHINGTON -- Although he is leading the Republican primary race by a wide margin, casino mogul Donald Trump is still far from winning the 1,237 delegates needed to secure the party's uncontested nomination.

Trump warned Wednesday morning that there would be widespread unrest if he does not "automatically" get the nomination as the candidate with the greatest number of delegates.

"I think you would have riots," Trump said during an interview with CNN, adding that he represents "many, many millions of people," including several first-time voters.

Party operatives hoping to stop Trump have looked to the possibility of a brokered convention, which could block his path to becoming the nominee should he only win a plurality of delegates.

Trump said such a scenario would outrage his supporters, who have shown increasing willingness to use violence against their political detractors.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-riots-nomination_us_56e956fae4b0b25c9183e915

Donald Trump Has the Soul of a Killer

To think that there is even the remotest possibility that this egomaniacally murderous psychopath could become President of the United States is to consider that predictions of the End Times may have been accurate and we may be about to see them. "Is there anything more fun than a Trump rally?" he asks his frenzied fans. Because, really, what could humans possibly find more enjoyable than gathering together in a huge crowd to hit and hate?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-slansky-/donald-trump-has-the-soul-of-a-killer_b_9475580.html

This Is Not My Republican Party

The Republican Party I know and belong to is not xenophobic.

We don't want to build a wall, or believe that all Mexicans are drug dealers or rapists. We don't believe that all Muslims are terrorists or want to ban them from our country. These are ridiculous concepts belched forth from the mouth of a man playing on the fears and frustrations of a segment of America that's sick and tired of government not working as it was originally designed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-skeldon/this-is-not-my-republican-party_b_9477064.html

Incendiary Political Rhetoric Breeds Violence

Bad things happen when mainstream public figures engage in incendiary rhetoric that vilifies or scapegoats minorities.

We see it time and time again in our work.

When Islamophobia dominates the air waves, for example, we see an uptick in hate crimes against those perceived to be Muslim.

As a matter of common sense, you know the connection is there. But rarely can you draw a straight line between someone's hateful speech and violence or intimidation.

In Donald Trump's case, however, you don't have to take it on faith.

Last August, the Boston Globe described what happened to a 58-year-old Latino man who was ambushed by two white men as he slept: "The homeless man was lying on the ground, shaking, when police arrived. His face was soaked, apparently with urine, his nose broken, his chest and arms battered."

The man said he was awakened when the men started urinating on his head. Witnesses said two brothers, who were arrested, pummeled him with their fists and a metal pole before walking away laughing.

One of the attackers told police he was inspired by Trump. "Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported," he said, according to the Globe.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/j-richard-cohen/incendiary-political-rhet_b_9470472.html

There's so many more that it boggles the mind but I think you get the point....

 

1. Classic conservative talking point with no real meaning. I guess, lest we "race-bait", we should never discuss racism at all. Which makes me wonder. Why are you accusing me of racism again?

2. Your claim that I'm race baiting is hilarious, mainly because it perfectly describes what you are doing and makes absolutely no sense considering your previous accusations. I really can't think of a better way to describe your claims than "groundless accusations of racism... a unique and deliberate focus on race in an attempt to discredit others as racist." Thanks for the free argument. I now know the perfect response to anyone who ever claims that my posts (lampooning racist logic) are racist again: "Race-baiting!"

3. Apparently one can be racist AND simultaneously be race baiting at the same time. Makes sense.

4. Except that you only apparently care about, as you put it, "racism against whites." As I said before:"If you can't see that you're being racist against blacks by bothering me about my supposed "racism" towards whites while saying nothing about the post I was responding to, with its complaints about "black thugs" assaulting white women and its explicit dog-whistling, I don't know what to tell you."

5.Unequal standards is a key part of racism. And it's something you clearly exhibit. In your mind, talking about "black thugs" assaulting white women is perfectly fine. Talking about the white thugs who attend Trump rallies, however, is racist. Personally, I'm not sure how you can hold these positions and claim with a straight face that you "judge people on actions and character not the color of their skin." Your position is completely disingenuous.

6. You're right. The fact that you disagree with me doesn't make you racist. It's the fact that you explicitly target me with accusations of racism but leave the clearly racist post I was responding to alone. Classic conservative dishonesty.

7. Straw man argumentation. I never claimed that your disagreement with me, as illogical and comepletly unsupported by any argument as it is, made you racist. Rather, it's your embarrassing double standards.

8. Don't think I don't notice what you're doing. It's the classic conservative reverse meme. I spoke out about a racist post in a forceful way designed to mock the logic of the original poster. My post was in no way even mildly xenophobic, much less racist, especially when put in context. And what was your response? Apparently, I'm the one who is racist for strongly standing against racism, and you are "an independent thinker" (in a sea of other white conservatives who think exactly like you and constantly repeat the same arguments, I might add). Good logic.

9. More straw men. I never claimed that white people can't be racist because they "are the majority in this country." Here's the response I put in my other post, which applies perfectly here:
"You've offered no real response to my assertion that racism can only occur if their is a societal system of economic and legal inequality operating behind it. In other words, can you please provide an example in the modern era of how whites were oppressed by a non-white government for centuries and/or a modern nation in which whites are the underclass economically? Then we can have a actual argument."

10. You know, I'm getting real tired of this claim that I am racist or my assertions are racist. Besides being right-wing race baiting, you've never even attempted to explain why. I've explained why your attacks on me stink of racist double standards. Now it's your turn. Make an argument.

11. The only problem is that you do. Someone who believes in reverse racism ( a conservative meme utilized by the KKK, by the way) is someone who believes that "discrimination, sometimes officially sanctioned, against a dominant or formerly dominant racial or other group representative of the majority in a particular society takes place, for a variety of reasons, often initially as an attempt at redressing past wrongs." Is this not your position? After all, you seem to believe that my post about white Americans was racist. And white Americans are clearly "a dominant or formerly dominant racial or other group representative of the majority". Perhaps it's time to live up to your positions.

12. This assertion about racism being racism "no matter which race it is perpetrating it" is nonsense, as I've explained before. It's also a philosophy created by white supremacist groups like the KKK at the end the the twentieth century when they realized that explicit racism was no longer acceptable. Instead of discussing "racial purity" and using racial slurs, they transitioned to softer racism: talking about how they needed to protect their heritage, about how they were being discriminated against and experiencing racism from minorities (reverse racism). This is why many KKK members today claim they are not racist, but are in fact fighting racism against white people. So, how does it feel to have the KKK on your side?

13. If you think BLM is a racist organization you are either getting your information from idiots or are an idiot yourself.

14. Already pointed out above why rhetoric like "BLM is a racist organization" is the same rhetoric employed by the KKK and white supremacists. Also: reverse racism doesn't exists, so you can't be racist to white people.

15. Name one thing BLM has done or said that is racist.

16. Here's some sources about why white supremacists are the greatest terror threat to the U.S. by independent think tanks, who I have just learned today are apparently "idiots".
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...-study-n380931
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10342987.html

 

1. Sure, desperate immigrants driving down wages is an issue. Which is why we should severely punish any corporation or person who makes profits off the backs of the impoverished immigrants and institute a universal living wage. The only problem is that conservatives oppose both of these policies. Which might have something to do with being the party of corporate interest.

2.I take it that because you believe that immigrants driving down wages is an issue, you agree with me that Reagan's illegal interventionist foreign policy in Latin America was a disaster that caused incredible harm to America, and that conservative-back free trade deals like NAFTA must be staunchly opposed.

3.It's not like police can be racist or that our justice system doesn't disproportionately target and punish blacks, or anything like that.

4.When blacks are shot dozens of times by police officers for walking down a street or illegally suffocated to death by officers who outnumber them, it's not because our police departments have been militarized by conservatives and taught to resort to violence at the first opportunity.It's because blacks escalate "legal detentions by police to the point where they get shot sometimes."

5. I'd love to hear your explanation for why blacks "escalate" legal detentions more that whites and are thus shot more. I'm confident it won't have anything to do with the lack of "family values" in black communities and/or the inherent criminality of blacks. That sort of racist dog-whistling would be plain embarrassing, not to mention nowhere close to a real argument.

6. Sanders giving me everything I need for free seems much more likely than Trump being able to build his magic wall or Cruz passing a flat tax (read: corporate welfare tax) and abolishing the IRS and somehow not crashing the economy. Not that any of the other conservatives have real ideas. They can never seem to explain how they would reduce the debt they worry so much about while simultaneously increasing spending and giving tax cuts to their billionaire friends. In fact, the last time we tried that, we got the 2008 financial crisis. So much for conservative policy.

7. You're right that I think billionaires getting too much free stuff (like tax cuts, deregulation of their companies, deluded middle class and lower class conservatives defending them and their interest while simultaneously remaining convinced that they "represent the real America") is more of an issue than illegal immigration. I think that poor people and middle class people should be given everything they need to live a decent life, like free health care and good public education. Somehow, you believe that this is wrong.

8.Net immigration from Mexico has been less than zero for the last few years. That means more migrants are leaving than are coming in. Why? Because conservatives obsessed with the "threat" Mexican immigrants posed to our economy drove our economy into the ground in 2008, and it's never recovered.

9. Insane conservative fiscal policy and the billionaires who support it are currently the greatest threat to the American economy.

 

This is exactly how I see it as well....

 

Take your blinders off.

Like I said, there is no such thing as reverse racism. Racism is not just something that white people practice. It exists in all races.

Have you ever read the definition of racism? It has none of the qualifers that you seem to be trying to place on it. It is simply thinking one race is superior to another or discriminating against someone based on race.

You saying that white people cannot be the victim of racism is assinine. Are you afraid of other races victimization by racists will be lessened just because white people can also be victims of racism? Makes no sense.

By your logic racism against whites can only exist if whites are not the majority of the polulation, have ever been in the majority in government, and have never had racists among their ranks.

Ludicrous.

I see you don't want to admit that some people that are minorities and don't like white people just because they are white, are racist even though the only qualification for being a racist is discriminating or judging someone based on their race. Spin it however you want but the majority of people with any level of independent thought aren't gonna buy it.

Sourcing NBC , the most liberal MSM outlet of them all, is not going to convince me of your absurd claim that white supremacist terrorists are the.greatest threat to.the U.S. You should really find some more credible sources for information. Maybe that is part of why your views are so skewed. You may as well be quoting Fox News while trying to prove that President Obama has done a bad job as President.

Also, how can you assume that I am only concerned with racism against whites? That is absurd and baseless.

You are the one saying that every race but whites can be victims of racism Your whole position is discriminatory at it's core.

 

It's getting silly

The guy you quoted blames Trump for that.

They are basically saying now that anything in the country that happens is Trump fault because if his verbiage

I used to be in the middle but I'm so pissed at this nonsense that j am going right this election.

There are a ton of me's out there too