Texas family: We’re getting death threats for not baking a cake for same-sex ‘marriag

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  1. RandomObserver

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    And yet some Christians believe baptism must involve submersion while others believe it should be done by sprinkling the water. Fortunately we live in a country where one person does not get to dictate how another person interprets the Bible (or any other religious document). According to the Bible, polygamy should be allowed, but Christians a few generations ago chose to interpret the Bible differently.
     
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    The Bible = The Pirate's Code.

    It be more a set of guidelines than what you'd call actual rules ...
     
  3. JavisBeason

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    yet, gays can discriminate against straights, and refuse to provide them services....

    www.gaydar.com is a gays only dating site. I guess the issue isn't really about ending discrimination for you.... because obviously, how you define discrimination seems ok as long as straight white Christian males are the target
     
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    Couldn't disagree more.
     
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    I made no representation as to when the original decision was made and quite specifically stated when the appellate court decision was made. Since the claim of yours I dispute is "Asset forfeiture does not occur during an appeal", the date of the decision on appeal, demonstrates you are full of (*)(*)(*)(*) as usual. Just making the (*)(*)(*)(*) up as you go along, because that's what you do here. They seized his assets while the appeal was pending.

    Actually the date of the appellate decision occurring AFTER the asset seizure PROVES your quoted claim above is BS. Without a shred of integrity, you are just to dishonest to admit it. I wouldn't expect anything else from a man of your character.
     
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    The free exercise of religion is an individual right, not one that belongs only to a church or the clergy.
     
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    Id say the fact that Saudi Arabia is one of the largest suppliers of fighters for ISIS and the fact that Saudi Arabia was never enslaved, colonized or oppressed, blows a hole in your theory.
     
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    Isis is an Islamic Caliphate. Just like the Islamic Caliphates that existed from 632 until the 1920s, ISIS has established a new caliphate
     
  9. Daniel Light

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    All fun and games until the man who operates the local water supply says he can no longer allow water to be pumped to your
    house because you are one of the "unclean".

    All fun and games until the company that collects your trash says you don't measure up to their the religious yardstick and
    you'll be skipped from now on.

    All fun and games until you have a heart attack and the doctors let you rot on the floor because your haircut hasn't been approved
    by their religion.

    The problem is setting of precedents - refusal of service doesn't just apply to cakes.

    It's all fun and games until it is done to you.
     
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    The problem, fruitcake, is that being homosexual, heterosexual, transsexual, asexual or just plain not sexual is not an excuse for making threats of violence.
     
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    Huh? I'm sure you think that somewhow, magically, makes sense.

    Dry your tears and try again, please.
     
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    Notice how most all the refusal of service cases brought by gays are over cakes and bars and how we don't see any regarding the things above you've mentioned.
     
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    Have we ever seen a county clerk refuse to process marriage licenses for same-sex couples?
     
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    "by any means necessary" is the LGBTQQi motto. Remember when they bullied and publicly shamed highschool kids that supported traditional marriage.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/02/09/students-opposed-to-lgbt-agenda-shamed-in-classroom.html


    don't forget this girl
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/10/the-bitter-irony-of-the-day-of-silence/

    Bullying, shaming, controlling grades, death threats are all things the left would go ape over if a Christian professor used these tactics on a pro-gay marriage person... but somehow, they accept these tactics when used against anyone that dares not to accept the LGBT agenda
     
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    And Westburo Baptists consider themselves Baptists. Does that make it so?

    Yes, ISIS believes they are following ISLAM, most of the Muslims reject ISIS and their actions.
     
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    Notice how seriously local government take refusal of services cases. That's why you don't see too many individuals trying to
    use their religion as an excuse to cut off services.

    Remember, there have been over 30,000 same sex wedding. There have been two bakery incidents. Obviously A) Gay people
    are finding businesses that have no problem serving gays, and B) the vast majority of Christians are not so backwards that
    they feel the need to refuse service to gay people.
     
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    Put up or shut up time for you, show us where the majority of the left condones Death Threats to those that won't bake a cake. Why do you feel the need to exaggerate and flat out lie?
     
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    Different laws apply to government. Here we are talking about private businesses denying service. But of course, you would rather talk about something else.
     
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    Yeah. Its laughable when the gays and their advocates try to equate their situation to that of the blacks in America.
     
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    Except Islam has over 1300 years of the precedent of Islamic Caliphates followed by millions of Muslims. Westboro Baptists have no such precedence.
     
  21. Daniel Light

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    Should private ambulance services be able to refuse service on religious grounds?

    Should private water companies be able to refuse service on religious grounds?

    Should private hospitals be able to refuse service on religious grounds?
     
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    Again, just because ISIS claims they are following ISLAM, doesn't make it so. The point again that claiming you are something doesn't mean it is factual. Westboro considers themselves Baptists, so using your logic they are Baptists because they claim so.
     
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    And a business that is discriminating, even legally, is not free from criticism or boycotts. As for the Death Threats I have already said those that are doing it should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It's funny though they claim to be getting phoned death threats but in this day and age with simple tracing from phone and cell companies no charges have been filed.
     
  24. Daniel Light

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    Yup. A Black person could not be fired from their jobs just for being black after the 1960s.

    A gay person cold be fired from their job just for being gay until 2010.
     
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    No. Here we are talking about cake. Cake they can go down the street and get from another baker
     

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