Texas family: We’re getting death threats for not baking a cake for same-sex ‘marriag

When their corner stone of their religion is about the massacre of the 1st born Egyptian babies to than march to Canaan to kill EVERYBODY there. Than it doesn't qualify as good to anybody holding up current western norms.

Well the Jews got something up with 3 years + 1 day old girls. So you can sink a lot lower.

I dunno. The Christians and Jews are the biggest manufacturers of general weapons and weapons of mass destruction. The worlds biggest pedophile sexring is the Catholic church. It's also them lot who oppressed about the entire world for centuaries with their colonialism, slavery and now we got this neo-colonial thing going. I mean. That massacre that freak born again Christian unleashed in Iraq, and the deliberately removal of the law, order, the army, it's government is how them Christians and Jews created ISIS to be born. Thanks for all that. But the world can do without.

 

I cant link to the entirety of all Texas law, to show the absence of any such law. You could very easily link to one single law that makes such a denial of service illegal. From the article-

"It would be very inappropriate for a lawsuit to be filed. Both state and federal law protect the Delormes' right to operate their business according to their faith."

In general

Five states—Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina and Texas—do not have a public accommodation law for nondisabled individuals.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/state-public-accommodation-laws.aspx

Looks like 25 states don't include sexual orientation in their Public Accommodation laws.

 

cause the bakers are religious fanatics that refuse to make cakes for inter-racial couples saying they do not make inter-racial wedding cakes

edit : I mean intra-gender wedding cakes

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How about those self-loathing whites who despise themselves so much that they will stoop to any level, with the most absurd excuse, in order to justify the murder of their brethren ? That is pretty pathetic, isn't it ?

Oh wait !!

 

No one wanted to touch the fundamental issue, I see....

I'll ask again. Do humans possess a natural or legal right to compel another human to labor?

 

I'm not making an excuse. I'm putting things in perspective.
You mention a warlord, I mention genocidal lunatics who follow a baby killing god. (for the luls, you also got Maccabees, where conquest and forced conversion is being promoted) You mention pedophiles due to that 9 year old, I mention the genocidal lunatics do it with 3 year old and 1 day.

I didn't hit a nerve that a favorite religion of choice actually looks very bad?

So indeed. How about those self loathing whites who got their answers lined up about the muslim faith and how bad it is, but are blind to the evil that they support? I mean, the entire WORLD says them Jew colonies in the West Bank are illegal. But the Christian/Jewish west still demands the Jews go on with their ethnic cleansing and massacring around by vetoing everything that opposes that. That is pretty pathetic, isn't it?

 

They are not forced into ANY labor as it is up to them if they want to be open to the public and if they are, there are public accommodation laws that must be followed. So your whole argument is false because no one is forcing them to be open to the public.

 

Hey. No Jewish faith is out there now condoning sex or marriage to 3 year olds. There is no concern for a CSIS, that being a "Christian State .... etc" out there killing infidels.

Meanwhile, want to see some pictures of current Muslim "wives" ? How about kids being crucified ?

It is not a question of if the shoe fits. Only what size you wear.

 

Do your "public accommodation" laws apply to all businesses, in every instance, or just those who violate progressive dogma/can be used to advance a political narrative?

for instance, if I, the proprietor of custom Tee-Shop business, choose not to fulfill your request for something I consider vile, pornograpic, inciteful, or otherwise innapropriate, do you, a consumer, have the right to compel me to labor to design and print your request?

 

Again, you don't even understand public accommodation laws. They aren't asking for a pornography cake, they are asking for a regular wedding cake. Come back when you actually understand public accommodation laws and how they are applied. Such ignorance from the anti-gay crowd.

 

I'm not anti-gay....my brother is gay and married to a wonderful man and the love of his life.... I'm anti-unequal application of the law, pro-individual rights, and pro-1st Amendment. now answer the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing question.

 

Sure sure, and just like some folks have that "black friend" right?

I already answered it, are you having trouble reading? They aren't asking for something that is different in regards to the bakery. Your example is something they don't do. That is what public accommodation laws are about and that YOU have no clue on. Keep thinking like you do, but your wrong and even the law agrees with ME and not YOU. Chew on that one.

Tell me what the difference is between a gay cake and a straight cake? Answer is NONE.

 

You did not answer the question I posed. I want to know if you believe these "public accommodation laws" give you, a customer, the right to compel me, a business owner, to design, create, bake, print, build whatever you request. full stop.

I understand and agree that a business licensed to operate on the commons should not be able to deny someone an off-the-shelf, or "standard" product based on their race, ethnicity, creed, sexual orientation, religion (except in the case of certain butcher shops that, due to THEIR religious convictions, are apparently permitted to refuse to grant requests for certain types of common, lawful-to-consume animal flesh, and which have seemingly been ignored in all these "public accommodation law" arguments)....but I'm speaking to a larger issue, one that surrounds fundamental individual human rights to refuse to be compelled to labor by another human.

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Build whatever? Nope. Build something that you build for other customers? Yes. That is what public accommodation laws are and those laws are what YOU agree to FOLLOW when you go into a public business. If you are a private, not open to the public, club you don't have to worry about public accommodation laws.

Either way there are a couple of ways that do NOT force a business to be open to the public.

And yet again we are talking about a product. What is the difference between a gay cake and a straight cake? Nothing they are both the same cake.

 

You still don't get it. If the butcher does not sell the type of meat to ANYONE, then how can they be in violation of
public accommodation?

Can a doctor be "forced" to perform life-saving services. What happens when you are sick and go to the only hospital in
town with the only doctor available and the doctor says, "My religion says I can't touch you because of ... whatever."

It's all fun and games until it's you who is on the receiving end of bigotry.

 

What's the difference between a tee-shirt emblazoned with a swastika and a tee shirt emblazoned with Hello Kitty?

they're both tee-shirts, so, since "public accommodation laws" apparently supercede the individual rights of the, perhaps Jewish, custom tee-shirt business owner, they should be compelled by the customer -- and "law" -- to make the swastika tee-shirt, REGARDLESS of their religious or moral objections.

 

so it's a matter of advertising ("Halal", "Kosher" ) to a specific religious demographic that allows a business to get around "public accommodation laws"... can a bakery advertise that the wedding cake portion of their business only caters to heterosexual Christians?

 

"because if you don't agree with me, you and your children must be killed" seems like a reasonable response to any disagreement.

 

No - the Kosher deli still has to sell Kosher meats to non-religious customers. The wedding cake business can simply advertise that they do not supply writing or figurines on ANY of their custom wedding cakes.

 

No, just the legal right to compel them to pay up $400,000 for refusing to do the labor.

 

I think you are correct in that the consumer should not have the right to force you to print a T-shirt with a swastika on it (unless, for example, you are already printing swastikas on T-shirts for all your white customers and refuse to sell them to your black customers). If you print "Congratulations to the Happy Couple" on T-shirts and sell them to mixed-sex couples but refuse to sell them to same-sex couples, that is when it looks like discrimination. When you sell a customer that T-shirt it does not mean YOU are congratulating the happy couple... That is why I question the motive of the baker. It just reminds me of the big kid on the playground who will not share the ball with the little kid.

That said, I think the couple did the right thing to walk away and look for another baker (and the people who threatened the bakery were definitely doing the wrong thing).

 

so would the dating site www.gaydar.net/ also be fined 400k for not providing me..... a straight male, services that they provide gay only?

 

Are you still straight if you are using "services" that a gay site provides? Might want to find a better analogy.

 

don't play daft in an attempt to avoid answering the question.

they aren't providing dating services for straights like they are for gays. Why is it ok for them to do this, but a baker doesn't want to provide their service to a gay is suddenly a human rights violation.

Funny how you talk how gays could also discriminate, but as soon as it's shown when they do, you avoid it like a plague.

 

Legally, that was their only option. As it should be. This alternative of $400,000 prizes for the offended homosexual and bankruptcy for the business owner is insane.