Let's compile a list of presidents worse than Obama?

Me first:

#1 FDR. Horrible as both a person and a president. Some of the decisions he made, the creation of UN for example, was not only vicious, bad, but also incredibly stupid.

#2 LBJ. Vietnam war could have been the prototype of Desert Storm, but this Dixiecrat decided to play mouse-and-cat with the Vietcong and later back out of all the deals with the South Vietnam. Thousands of young Americans were lost in the unforgiving tropic atmosphere of SE Asia. He paraded to the world that America was meager, soft and indecisive.

#3 I can't think of a # 3. Obama aced pretty good (or bad for that matter) on the lousiness-o-meter. He is the new low (or the new high for that matter) of the American left. He is the first president that introduced and installed Obamacare which marked America's gleeful march to serfdom. He is the first president who infamously gave the "you didn't build that!" tirade. He is the first president who showed the world America is a court jester that owes everybody, including supporters of Islamic terrorism, an huuuge apology. The list goes on. He is the best counter-argument a Russian nationalist can use against pro-west democrats, because there isn't enough Obama who can carry Putin's jockstrap, when it comes to running a country, or anything else generally.

What do you call year 2017? "Good god we still have to put up with Obama for almost another month?? "

 

You about nailed it, but ever since obama disgraced the stage these past 7 1/2 years the fact was and still is that he upstaged the woeful jimmy cawter to now become our worst president. jimmy cawter must be living in shangrala knowing that he's risen from the ranks of America's worse potus.

 

Since obama is the worst it is not possible to make such a list.

 

Old Jimmy was just soft and weak. He was clueless and he didn't know what he was doing. He was a fundamentally good person so he was completely under-qualified for this list.

Obama? Hooo boy he knew hwat he is doing. And he doesn't even bother to put too much effort in hiding it. Either in his speech or in his biography.

It there was no party politics reining him in, if he doesn't have to care mildly about the other 50% or so of America's opinion, he would have said things much more radical and honest.

 

Incomplete list: No Franklin Pierce, no James Buchanan, no Ronald Reagan?

 

Here is my list of Presidents worse than Obama:

 

Woodrow Wilson. Lincoln. FDR. Teddy Roosevelt. Carter. Clinton. Bush.

 

No such list would complete without Nixon, Little Whittle "w" Georgie Bush, and the worst of the worst Lincoln who got us into a Civil war and destroyed the Southern way of life, and cause the KKK to spring and got himself assassinated.

 

Obama was ineffective like a Hoover or Carter. He has zero game plan and just floats along. Who the hell gets a supermajority for six weeks and only passes one major bill? He could have rammed anything through congress but wasted it. In comparison, FDR passed 13 bills equal to the ACA in his first 100 days without a supermajority.

Unlike Clinton who was able to move to the center, all Obama could do was refuse to negotiate with republicans and then whine about them.

There hasn't really been anyone worse than Obama.

 

Meh, not so sure on Lincoln as much as I am for Pierce and Buchanan laying the groundwork for the Civil War to begin.

 

Wilson? Teddy? Bush? C'mon!!

 

I hope the bit about Lincoln was sarcasm, if not I guess I'll find out.

I'd almost say Nixon, just because of the damage the scandal created, but I know too much about him and his actual work. A very weird guy, but he was trying to support what he saw as Americas aims at that time. The southern strategy thing is really the worst idea he promoted. I would most likely be republican if he hadn't. But his work diplomatically, getting us out of Vietnam, his work towards environmental protection and conservation (and actually much much more), were highly successful and popularly supported.

But definitely the last Bush was way worse than Obama. In any case I feel that we can't judge his presidency quite yet, its only in time we see the real effects. As I've gotten older I see where presidencies dovetail each other. Lots of Bill Clintons success was built on Bush Sr work, and quite a few of Bush Jr failures were due to Clinton programs that couldn't work for unlimited time periods, or had critical flaws. What got left to Obama is unprecedented though, at least in my knowledge or experience.

Oh well. Everyone, FLAME ON!!!

 

Wilson, gave us the monopoly banking system which has been deflating our dollar ever since. Not to mention how racist he was and how he drug us in to WWI under false flags.

Teddy, the big government progressive. The original progressive. The guy who stole land from the citizens to hold for the kings of America (POTUS).

Bush, single handedly gave most people a reason to vote for Obama and the super majority of democrats that gave us Obamacare.

 

I hope from this President we learned that being on defense only doesn't win a war/battle.

 

He didn't even play defense, he sat out.

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He didn't even play defense, he sat out.

 

I did not realize that Pat Buchanan was that old. And Pierse Morgan OMG he is not even an American citizen.

 

Andrew Jackson, Franklin Pierce, and Gerald Ford.

 

Yes the blurb about Lincoln was sarcasm but I have "in laws" from Mississippi that believe slaves were guest workers and one gaboomka that says Blacks need to stop complainin "bout" slavery since after "we" gave them three free meals a day, clothes, and a place to sleep so they did not gave to run after their food like they "dun did" in Africa.

 

Damn you Washington! He stole our stolen land. God save the Queen.

 

#3. George W. Bush. For enacting what became nearly a decade of bloodshed in the Middle East, the War in Iraq, and War in Afghanistan. In addition to contributing to the financial collapse of 2008.

 

Definitely Lincoln.

 

Are we talking about the gold standard here? You can't blame him for that. And deflating the dollar maybe, its purchasing power, at a global scale, is strongest than it has ever been. The very fact that you can buy a pants with a measly 20 bucks is an attestment because somewhere in Asia, you can make a living by making only 10 or 20 piece of pants a month.

He enabled the women's rights to suffrage and he was rather vigilant against soviet infiltration, unlike FDR who basically opened up every door he could find to the commies.

Was Teddy a big government guy? Yes. Was he a progressive? Absolutely not. He had a massive ego, so much so he let his ego take control of the better part of his judgement sometimes. You really can't call someone who strong-armed the whole Panama Canal shebang a "progressive". It just doesn't mix. Teddy kinda fell in love with solving problem with warships, and he kinda used the whole Perdicaris Affair to his advantage.

I'm not gonna argue against that. The Bushs are unlucky bunch of sons ov bee stings. The most capable Bush was Bush Senior, he had to clean up some of the mess Ronald Reagan left over, and I say this as a Reagan fan. Fairness is fairness. Bush Jr. could have rode the Clinton train and let the momentum of the IT industry boom propel him forward for a cushy 8 years, but nope, 9/11 happened (which was entirely Clinton's fault because he failed to carry out due diligence), and he was thrown right into a "damned if I do, damned if I don't" situation, and the Iraqi war followed. Later the CRA finally hit the fan and turned into a full blown subprime mortgage crisis. He got blamed for so much that he wasn't at fault to begin with. And then came the last and the least lucky Bush, Jeb. He was a destroyer but he had to confront DT the Battleship. DT chewed through him like paper and spitted him out before his head stopped spinning.

The Bushs are the premium example of how one family should better make a name in the private sector, not in the political arena.

 

Excuse me but who are "we"? If by "we" you were referring to the American general public then forget it.

"The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn" - Anonymous

If you think I'm being cynical, consider the fact that the corpse of USSR hasn't yet gone cold but Bernie Sanders almost got majority support from the Democratic party. I'm talking about a possible 25 ~ 30% of US population. Christ in a hand-basket.

 

... the most useless topics seen on PF today.

 

To be fair, a lot of "slaves" came here semi-voluntarily because they were told America paid better. And if you bother taking into consideration that the economy of Africa had always been a ... well, non-existent, it wasn't wildly inaccurate.