Tapes Show Officer Mistook Castile for Robbery Suspect

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  1. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    I am trying to figure out how you can see a man's nose in your car going by and conclude he is a robbery suspect. Please tell me how you do this.

    Lets see if Justice will be served.
     
  2. trucker

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    its a short transmission on a radio, your trying to use a lawyer fine tooth comb nid picky here. see i was a casino security officer for years and we had radios to tell dispatch that we where about to approach a suspect, say in the racebook [​IMG] and made a quick reason why, like i seen him picked up a cigarette out of the ash tray and began to smoke it
    thats it!

    where not going to tie the radio up for a minute say like, well he looks like a bum and and he is also bothering other customers in the race book etc, because the radio has to remain open for other officers for possible emergency heartaches etc CALLS [​IMG] , there is only 2 radio channels on it, and 20 officers on the shift calling ever so often.
     
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    I don't know how the guy did it, but since everyone has a nose and many of them are shaped differently and could possibly be a distinctive feature then I'd hardly call it racial profiling. To call this racial profiling would be like calling an afro racial profiling.
     
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    Its difficult to get a good view of a persons face from one car width in a moving car. Certainly he could tell that Castile was black. The cop just decided to stop Castile and fabricated an excuse to do so.

    Robbers usually don't take their family to robberies. So presence of family means unlikely to be robbery suspect.
     
  5. superbadbrutha

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    Come on Steve, seriously.
     
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    You guys got anything but conjecture and suppositions? We know how far they have gotten you in the past.

    You can't even get the premise of your conjecture and suppositions straight
    The robbery was four days earlier.

    Yes the officer having seen the hidden camera videos could quite reasonably notice someone in a car driving by who looked like the person in the video the most striking feature being a prominent nose. Give it up. The fact is they thought he looked like the suspect which gave them cause to pull them over and act with extreme caution.
     
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    I can see how that would work in a verbal stream of consciousness. Internally he recognizes the face as familiar, face shape, mustache, goatee saying to self maybe, maybe, why is that face familiar. . . Then externally "yes, yes the nose I remember the pointy nose".

    We all blurt out truncated thoughts at times.

    Cheers
     
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    the cop never mention the babys in a car seat in the back of the car was there one? i dont see it here[​IMG] was the baby lying down?[​IMG] on the radio also, so maybe he didnt see the car seat or there was none[​IMG], say so after the stop he must of but it was to late for that observation, the suspect was reacting for his gun after talking to him.
     
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    I consider the description of a facial feature to be a description but unless the cop was scanning with binoculars hiw did he see that feature unless he had pulled right next to the " suspect"?
     
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    You know the cop shot him because he thought he was reaching for a gun. Anyway, I got mistaken for robbery suspect, actually two different times.

    The second time, I knew it was police officers and I did exactly as my Dad had taught me, hands on the wheel, no sudden movements, don't move your hands without clearing it with the officer and informing him what you are about to do. I was pulled from the car at gun point, thrown to the ground, searched cuffed, full felony stop.

    Once the witness arrived she confirmed that I wasn't the robber and we all went our respective ways. But, my Dad's point was, cops are armed and they are scared.
     
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    It really isn't all about race you know! Else the radio call would have gone like this "Hey guys this is the beaner in car 22, I'm pulling oven a wide nose now", "kk wet-back get the wide nose, cracker at hq out"

    Cheers
     
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    ok i see the little girl now sitting up she could of just woke up after the shooting [​IMG] dont know if thats a baby seat she sitting at? she could of been laying down in the back seat as the cop was observing and pulling the car over not seeing the little girl in there at that time.
     
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    They let blind people drive in your state? That's so progressive and understanding.

    Oh, and the robbery was four days prior. That was one long getaway drive, GPS broken? Hell now we've solved the case, suicide by cop. After 4 days in the car with diamond he'd had enough.

    Cheers
     
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    He's black. That's good enough to be a suspect in the U.S.

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    And you sued.........?
     
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    Of course not. Why would I?
     
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    The million dollar questions are "Where was Castile's gun?", "Was it in a holster?" and "Did he reach for or near it?". I'd like to see the dash cam footage and hear the audio exchange if possible.

    As far as how well he could see Castile's face when they were driving, look at the similarities between Castile and the robbery suspect. If that was the cop's excuse and he said that on the radio before the stop, he would have to be very lucky to blindly stop someone who looked so much like the robbery suspect.
     
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    Right, it's a strong resemblance from medium distance. I agree on the "luck" factor having nothing to do with the officers rationale, too close a match.

    Now I don't think Castile matches the robbery suspect on close inspection. Castle had a fu manchu and the suspect did not have the facial hair connecting the mustache to the goatee and four days isn't enough time to grow the length Mr Castile had.

    Cheers
     
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    I was pulled from the car at gun point, thrown to the ground, searched cuffed, full felony stop.(*)

    Are you kidding me? Why would you? Really?
     
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    The reason for the atop is moot. It was a valid stop. He did have a tail light out. That is not the problem here. The problem is what happened during the stop. And that is information we do not have. The live stream the female made is only evidence of what happened while she was recording. Just because she live streamed something and is recording, doesn't make what she says absolute truth beyond contestation. Nor does it mean that it's not the way it reall happened. I'm going to wait and reserve judgement until ALL the facts of the case or known. Not just one side of the accounts. I'm waiting for the results of an investigation
     
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    Profiling based on a NOSE is radical Profiling.

    Note that I think Profiling is important. Profiling is math.

    White Racists being Racist is also Profiling. Not all Whites are Racist.

    But I am raised in a RNC area and know that it's absolute the racists are thick here. My only media is Fox News. My DISCUSSIONS are generally me talking and others repeating like parrots. It's not hard to spot one.
     
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    Irrelevant. The officer did not mis-take that it was a pistol showing under his shirt that he was reaching for.
     
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    That's how it works. Cases are often solved acting on a minor instinct or detail.
     
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    Well we know why he didn't.

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    ..................and you know that how?

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    Cases are often solved because someone saw it, not a cop riding down the road and just happens to use his bionic eye and notices a suspect.
     
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    Yup. I did nothing. I had no idea a robbery had just taken place and when I left the shopping center those searching for the robber all locked on me. I was sitting back hand-cuffed and no one would tell me what was going on. I was pretty sure this wasn't standard operating procedure for a minor chirping of the tires.

    Then they brought this lady up, who peered into my face as said "No. It's not him." Then they told me what was going on, wrote me up for the open container they found incidentally to this event, and sent me on my way.
     
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    No, it's not.

    You have zero experience in law enforcement, or expertise.

    It's blatantly obvious.
     

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